Froggy

Just watching the highlights from the derby again and just noticed when Rooney scores the opener and slides on the turf in front of some City fans, there's an Asian City fan (not Oldtype) frantically trying to get his camera ready to take a picture of us celebrating. Don't think I've ever seen that before.

Isn't the average wage significantly higher in Oz anyhow? My mate lives in Perth and has paid $42 for 3 beers before. Perth's the most expensive place to live in the world is what all the Aussie's I've met have told me. Perth is absolutely ridiculous. The average wage is higher but this is a friendly and it's over three times the price of a match ticket. We were in Australia before in '99 and I think whoever it was that got us over paid something like $3million. That was for two games though. I think this is only one. Probably still go.

It's not even that. Australia is trying to increase interest in football. Bringing one of, if not the biggest, club to your country is fantastic, but is completely counteracted when you then you go and price the majority of people out of a ticket.

Man United coming to Australia next year as part of their 2013 pre-season tour. Good tickets for the Sydney game cost $169 (110GBP). Absolutely ridiculous. It costs me less than 100 quid for return travel and a match ticket from Ireland. $169 for a pre-season game ffs.

Only bet alive from the weekend is three fold which needs Sunderland to win and has NUFC dnb.

What's the predictions for the derby today? I would be ecstatic if we managed to beat City, especially at their own ground, but expecting a really tough game. Anything except a loss will be a good result. Hoping Mancini plays Balotelli or Dzeko instead of Tevez, but that will probably come back to haunt me. Hoping for Fletcher to start but have a sneaky suspicion Fergie will go with Carrick and Scholes. Anderson would have been a certain starter if he was fit. Cleverley probably would have started as well but doesn't look to be ready in time. Valencia and Young on the wings with Rooney just behind RVP. Psyched for this.

First bet is incredible odds. Second one is shit odds.

Someone has a Torres bet up. On for a good haul whoever it was.

Had already done my bets for this round but I've stucked $10 on the forum bet. Returns $143.

Honestly i think the general public have gone from overrating him to underrating him now..... Player gets insane hype from media thus receives so much abuse and becomes underrated.... it always f*cking happens and i think it's happened with Bale. I think he's a pretty fantastic player and one of the best in the league but nowhere near as much the media hypes him. He's not better than Ibra either. There's honestly not many/if any better that does what he does. He's perfect for the way AVB likes to play with fast, fluid counter attacking football. This will be the third season in a row he's chipped in with double figures whilst playing out wide, you can't argue with that return. People are mentioning his consistency but I don't think it's any worse than the majority of attacking midfielders. Bale is fucking brilliant. No two ways about it for me. If he's on form, and he is more than not, forget about trying to play against him. He plays like a man possessed and there's nothing defenders can do. A winger scoring a hat trick against the reigning defender of the year is something nobody else has done. That's what it took for people to realise he was one of the best wingers in the world. People arguing that he's one footed etc but so is Mata, Valencia, Ashley Cole, Van Persie as well. These are some the best players in the league. Agree the media overrates as he isn't the best player in the world (outside the untouchable top three) by a long shot, but he's 23 and getting there for me.

Honestly i think the general public have gone from overrating him to underrating him now..... Player gets insane hype from media thus receives so much abuse and becomes underrated.... it always f*cking happens and i think it's happened with Bale. I think he's a pretty fantastic player and one of the best in the league but nowhere near as much the media hypes him. He's not better than Ibra either. As soon as I read that I got to about 8 players in this league alone who are better than him and I had pretty much just woken up. As I said, I do think he is a really good player but 11th best in the world? Not even close Just curious, but who do you think are the 8 better than him? Mata, Rooney, Van Persie, Suarez?

Yeah that's Garrincha. Remember seeing that picture a few years back.

Was just about to post that on Facebook. dislike ITV more than Celtic.

No. Selections Event Event Date E/W Terms Odds Result 1 Valencia Lille v Valencia (Full Time Result) 06/12/2012 None 7/5 To Run 2 Galatasaray Braga v Galatasaray (Full Time Result) 06/12/2012 None 13/10 To Run 3 Under 2.5 Shakhtar Donetsk v Juventus (Total Goals) 06/12/2012 None 8/13 To Run Multiples Bet Type No of Bets Unit Stake Stake To Return Returns Trebles 1 15.00 15.00 133.75

I'm Irish and I don't like Celtic at all. Some cannon fodder for someone in the knockouts though.

I don't think Ben Arfa deserves to be on there ahead of any of those midfielders, but Colo should be in the defenders list. Ahead of Ashley Cole and Ivanovic at least.

He's been very good as a full back this year, but there are a few others who have much better than him IMO. Lahm and Alba being two of those.

4/5 for the draw. Seen that myself. Went for 11/10 under 2.5 goals instead. No. Selections Event Event Date E/W Terms Odds Result 1 Valencia Lille v Valencia (Full Time Result) 06/12/2012 None 7/5 To Run 2 Galatasaray Braga v Galatasaray (Full Time Result) 06/12/2012 None 13/10 To Run 3 Under 2.5 Shakhtar Donetsk v Juventus (Total Goals) 06/12/2012 None 8/13 To Run Multiples Bet Type No of Bets Unit Stake Stake To Return Returns Trebles 1 15.00 15.00 133.75 A silly accy as well. Returns a grand or something if it won.

I went 4-4-2 because I wanted Pirlo and Mata in the team. Buffon Alba Hummels Kompany Lahm Xavi Iniesta Pirlo Mata Ronaldo Messi.

I won fuck all.

Just watched the highlights. Absolutely sublime for the third goal, not just the strike, the all round play was excellent. Santons run and strike for the second goal was quality as well.

Roy Hodgson? Brendan Rodgers? Sam Allardyce? http://i.imgur.com/S0W6N.gif

$15 on: PSG Dortmund/City BTS Schalke DNB Returns $78 $5 on: Milan DNB Arsenal DNB Malaga DNB Either team not to score Kiev/Zagreb. (11/10. Zagreb haven't scored a goal yet.) Returns $60.

Might have some of that too. Got 102.67 back from Newcastle winning. Happy enough. That's two wins in two weeks.

He coached the flair out of Rooney, certainly not the technical ability though. He's as technically brilliant as he's ever been.