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I think we all agree with that on this (last) page... It certainly wasn't what I was arguing... People need to read more closely and digest before replying at times... Hence why I use ellipses to help clarify...

I've not been taken in by anything... And I'm certainly no AP sympathiser... I think we are arguing different points judging by your latest response as they don't apply to the points I made...

You agree with the bits about Ashley 'getting his money back' and the hitherto-unknown 'hidden debt'? I agree we are tied into a loveless marriage of sorts until he recovers the money he paid to buy the club and keep it afloat... I agree that once he's done that his intentions could be to use us as a cash/advertising cow for himself and SD... I contend that he long since recovered the monies he paid to buy the club and its inherent debt. I contend that he has for some time already been using the club as a cash cow and showcase for his scummy brands. Look at this years shirts for God's sake - the cheapest, nastiest selections from the Puma option book (stick on crest - embarrassing don't cover it) -and the largest margin for Fatty. I'd also be keen to learn your thoughts on this mysterious 'hidden debt' What is it? How much is it? Where did it come from? What measurements are in place to pay it back? (TV money from last season? Net, we've spent next to nothing this close season. I contend that you're defending the indefensible. I'd say you'd just agreed with me... If he's long recovered the debt as you claim then he's moved on to the phase of using us for a cash/advertising cow which you highlight yourself with Puma etc and not spending the TV money... I'm not defending anybody nor was the person on FB when reading what he had to say...

No offence taken... And I agree a "decent" manager would probably work under the same conditions just not a "Top" manager what seemed to be argued... I think! As like you I just wandered into the thread and next thing I know I'm being called an idiot!

He probably is but that's a different point... The point was made with regards Hiddink and I'm presuming that sort of echelon of manager that would be deemed in the "Top" bracket he claimed fellow fans were foolishly clamouring for... So for example the now retired Hitzfeld who has been branded about in past years...

You agree with the bits about Ashley 'getting his money back' and the hitherto-unknown 'hidden debt'? I agree not many top managers would work under these conditions and for such a low salary... I agree he was stitched up by H&S which has been proven as he didn't do due diligence to uncover the debt and also with myself being a Freeman of Newcastle he didn't realise we are one of the few clubs that doesn't own the land the ground is built on which reduces the value of the club greatly... I agree we are tied into a loveless marriage of sorts until he recovers the money he paid to buy the club and keep it afloat... I agree that once he's done that his intentions could be to use us as a cash/advertising cow for himself and SD... I agree he could also decide to just sell up after making balance sheet look as good as possible... I agree us whinging about AP on MB's is going to have no effect on wether he sticks with AP... So like I said... I don't think he said a lot wrong and agreed with the points I've highlighted...

He doesn't say a lot wrong in my eyes...

On a free too Good player... What are WBA thinking? He was only on loan at WBA, back at Marseille now. Still, seems strange that Marseille are willing to let him go for nowt. Thanks... Surprised we didn't go for him as he would give us some much needed creativity and composure...

On a free too Good player... What are WBA thinking?

Yep... Though will probably be moved to a Sunday if they qualify for the Europa group stages...

Maybe included the option of "either"...

Sunderland's home game against us was voted Sky's game of last season... SMB's must've been busy voting...

Not really related to this but he was awful the few times I saw him for Milan last season. Not surprised they're selling him I'd be hard pushed to name a single game where he's played well from start to finish... It's laughable when you hear people say he had a great Euro 2012 when in fact he was woeful apart a 20 minute spell against Germany...

Balotelli is just a myth...

This game needs a goal... And less onscreen ads!

Can't beat a bit of ticker tape...

Manage to find it... Is this the supposed same small team trying to poach Colo?

Cheers... Will look into it... Who's the favourite's to win?

What time UK?... On TV?...

Which game?...

The most irksome thing about Webb and a lot of modern day refs is they make too many decisions which spoils the flow of the game and in turn the decision is very debatable... I'd love refs just to let play carry on... I think they term it game management with the idea being nothing boils over etc but the problem is a lot of games aren't even allowed to simmer...

October dates ok with me... Should be able to put a few of you up for the weekend for those coming from afar...

We get money from the Forster deal from Celtic if sold to Southampton? £2m+...

Can anyone tell me anything about Satka?...

I'm in... 16th no problem with me but like others have mentioned more notice probably needed to ensure the greater numbers that this occasion deserves...