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My Watford supporting mate rates him higher than Richarlison at the same stage.

Mate described him as more of a 10 than a direct Wilson replacement. Rates him and reckons with the right development will get even better.

Are we talking cash or FFP?

I could be the new Adam P

I live in Watford so I'll start knocking on doors for opinions once I've got my kids down for the night

Yup, Howe and others will have poured over hours of detailed footage of him. If they feel we can get significant improvements out of him (ala JL and Krafth) then could work out very nicely. If he doesn't quite hit where we want him to be, probs can recoup a good chunk after a couple of years.

Feels like I'm re-reading the same page over and over again here

Yeah, one for the Twitter nonsense thread I reckon

Not many finished articles at his age and not going to judge him on a season with a relegated team with a supposed toxic dressing room. Don't know if he will prove to be part of our project yet but if Howe believes he can get something more out of him, similarly to JL and Krafth, then hopefully we'll see.

We're in the transfer thread, it's really not a big deal comparing transfer targets and expressing a bit of disappointment that we may end up with a choice lower down the list than we'd hoped. I'm still very much excited for the season and that won't change, but the transfer window has (to date) not been the wild ride I'd hoped for

Based on someone's info from the Leicester forum, they over extended their financials and due to no longer being in Europe they're going to miss FFP targets. So they need to sell to offset their expected losses.

Saying something is "100%" implies he's ITK rather than opinion. He's 100% a stupid, nonsensical fucker.

Maybe a case of cashing in now to replace him properly, rather than waiting a season until he only has 1 year left and struggling to get the right calibre in.

Well it's obvious now in retrospect

You're right, nothing to do with FFP. However, I don't think it's particularly worrying either. PIF are exactly what it says on the tin - an investment fund that will be expected to generate returns on investments. They will undoubtedly have measured up whether allowing one of their other non-investment vehicles (let's be honest, we offer other benefits rather than returns) to pay X amount of interest on borrowing against future guaranteed income, rather than using their cash on actual investments offering y return. I suspect y > x and ergo here we are. I'm sure when needs be they'll pump cash in, but they just don't need to in this instance.

Yup, you buy someone on a 5 year contract for 50m and it would always be £10m a year against FPP. Doesn't matter if you pay upfront, yearly, at the end, or when add-ons are due.

Not in accounting and FFP terms it's not. Nor in football matches where football is played, not this balance sheet/cashflow game that people seem to judge clubs on nowadays.

What's investing and losses got to do with it? This isn't Ashley FC anymore. Say he costs 30m at 6m depreciation over 5 years. You sell him in 3 years for 15m and you write off your remaining asset with a couple of mil released back to the P&L. That's not a loss. That's value for money. Then we buy a 60m player cos we'll be elite by then

Yeah, club controlling the narrative as they want. It's also why I'm dubious about the reported budget...why mention it at all?

Howe himself said about Bruno... “He is a defensive midfielder, but a creative one. The reason we signed him was because we loved his way of playing, his eye for a pass and composure.”

They were chanting about Staveleys looks in a friendly match that had nothing to do with us. Ergo they're cunts.

Christ these guys are cunts. From their Rangers game...

They don't have to stick with Darlow. Nothing to stop them spending the Dubs money on a new, younger keeper.

Does it count as a transfer rumour if the forum has just made it up ourselves?

Yeah, "his advisors have not yet wished to move forward..." Loads of reasons they could still be negotiating. More ££, assurances on playing time etc. Doesn't even mention him. Impossible to know whether he's keen or not based on just that.