EthiGeordie Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I remember him for Boro, they were very boring, but he was a huge success there and it's a sad state of affairs that he isn't recognised more. If he delivered a trophy and a European final here he would be immortalised without doubt. I think under him we would play the game in the right way at least if not always in the best way, that youngsters would be given a chance and that coaching wise we would see lots of improvement. I doubt we would finish top 6 though and for me even under this c*** of an owner, that is the place a club or our standing should be aiming for. He would be an upgrade on Pardew, but a bit meh as appointments go and I actually rate and like the man. Always privileged to read your comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 McClaren is a 6/10, which is poor until you compare with Carver's 2/10. We can and should do better but I'm so petrified of Ashley, I'd take Sccchteve. He's even fairly likeable. I'm just desperate to support my team again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 mcclaren would be a steady appointment for us, he's a good coach by all accounts. As most have said, 6/10, steady. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Incandenza Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 If McClaren is a 6/10 appointment who would be 7/10, 8/10 or 9/10 appointments? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 If McClaren is a 6/10 appointment who would be 7/10, 8/10 or 9/10 appointments? Carver, Carver and Carver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Tuchel would be a 10/10. Also 10 for unrealistic mind! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 If McClaren is a 6/10 appointment who would be 7/10, 8/10 or 9/10 appointments? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 McClaren is a 6/10, which is poor until you compare with Carver's 2/10. We can and should do better but I'm so petrified of Ashley, I'd take Sccchteve. He's even fairly likeable. I'm just desperate to support my team again Every week Schteve describes the teams performance in interviews as Magnificent whether they've won 6 nil or been humped 6 nil. I'm all for stuff being kept behind closed doors but I'd like a bit of honesty as well. If we were poor let's just tell it like it is and say we were poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 'Yeshh. We were...how you shay? Fucked up the arsh' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Tuchel would be a 10/10. Also 10 for unrealistic mind! Dont flatter him like that at best he can not be more than 7/10. I would give the likes of Mour in that bracket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 He's not really doing anything exceptional in the Championship is he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Souness won a trophy at every club he managed before us too iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Hardly the same thing given the clubs both won trophies with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Hardly the same thing given the clubs both won trophies with. So how has Steve done at bigger positions? Embarrassed on both occasions. I guess now we are becoming a smaller club, happy with midtable finishes we might be a better fit. But he's not the manager to get us in the top 8 consistently imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 You have to look at our current circumstances and who we've had in charge over the last 4 years. When Pardew went we were linked with Garde, we salivated over the prospect of Tuchel and Galtier. Listen, now we're stuck with John Carver. I'd take McLaren without a doubt. A higher profile appointment from overseas would obviously be better, but our track record isn't great is it? This is arguably the biggest summer we've had for years. We're down to the bare bones in terms of both bodies and quality - we need heavy investment but that will mean fuck all without a good 'head coach'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Bring down expectations = happy with McLaren. great job Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Bring down expectations = happy with McLaren. great job Mike. Let's be honest, our expectations are rock bottom at the moment. I can't remember the last time I watched us play and enjoyed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Bring down expectations = happy with McLaren. great job Mike. Yep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Doubt anyone is actually " happy " with it tbh, there's a difference between being happy and seeing that it's a better scenario than John freaking Carver. ( mind you anything is ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Boro indeed. The fans there wanted him sacked for years. Wrong, by and large the vast majority thought he was doing just fine but a good chunk had ideas way above their station and wanted better. My mate says he will eventually go down as the best manager they have ever had unless they achieve a whole lot more in the coming years. I lived there for 5 years. Very few supporters I ever came across had good things to say about him. They all knew he'd fail miserably with England. I have quite a few Middlesbrough supporting friends who celebrated him leaving like it was a World Cup win. I didn't know a single fan who was gutted by him leaving. Even though he was doing a reasonable job with results and standing, the Football was regarded as utterly turgid and there was a feeling of them being on the decline with him having taken them as far as he could. His impact had worn out and the freshness of his approach was gone, which is what tends to happen with many of the okay, but not particularly great managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Incandenza Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Hardly the same thing given the clubs both won trophies with. So how has Steve done at bigger positions? Embarrassed on both occasions. I guess now we are becoming a smaller club, happy with midtable finishes we might be a better fit. But he's not the manager to get us in the top 8 consistently imo. He was at Wolfsburg for 6 months under a shithouse setup. Thats the only 'big' club job hes had. It would be churlish to draw any firm conclusions from that. I've said it before but if McClaren is underwhelming, who exactly is overwhelming? Who do you rank higher on your imaginary short-list? Out of the candidates linked I'd rate them as: Great appointments: Benitez, Tuchel (Both extremely unlikely and barely worth mentioning) Good appointments: De Boer, McClaren, Garde, Galtier Dissapointing/underwhelming appointments: Laudrup, Bilic, Warbuton, Labaddia Ghastly appointments: Carver, Redknapp, Bruce By my estimation McClaren is in probably the top bracket of managers we could get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 McLaren is a cut above Pardew and he's a Fillet Steak compared to the ground offal of Carver. It's a sad indictment of how the club is under Ashley that it's the best we can hope for though. He's a manager with arguably the best squad in the Championship and he may be on course to fail at getting them promotion for a second year in a row. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Hardly the same thing given the clubs both won trophies with. So how has Steve done at bigger positions? Embarrassed on both occasions. I guess now we are becoming a smaller club, happy with midtable finishes we might be a better fit. But he's not the manager to get us in the top 8 consistently imo. He was at Wolfsburg for 6 months under a shithouse setup. Thats the only 'big' club job hes had. It would be churlish to draw any firm conclusions from that. I've said it before but if McClaren is underwhelming, who exactly is overwhelming? Who do you rank higher on your imaginary short-list? Out of the candidates linked I'd rate them as: Great appointments: Benitez, Tuchel (Both extremely unlikely and barely worth mentioning) Good appointments: De Boer, McClaren, Garde, Galtier Dissapointing/underwhelming appointments: Laudrup, Bilic, Warbuton, Labaddia Ghastly appointments: Carver, Redknapp, Bruce By my estimation McClaren is in probably the top bracket of managers we could get. I'd take Laudrup or Bilic in an instant, this is Mike Ashley ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Incandenza Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 McLaren is a cut above Pardew and he's a Fillet Steak compared to the ground offal of Carver. It's a sad indictment of how the club is under Ashley that it's the best we can hope for though. He's a manager with arguably the best squad in the Championship and he may be on course to fail at getting them promotion for a second year in a row. I see no reason why Derby 'should' be finishing in the top two. I cannot fathom why so many people seem here to think they up there in spite of McClaren, rather because of him. In the five years prior to McClaren joining Derby they finished 18th, 14th, 19th, 12th and 10th. They were nowhere near promotion when he went there and are now on course for a second consecutive playoff campaign. By any metric he has done a great job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 He changed Derby from a club that was going nowhere almost overnight. I think some people don't properly respect achievements unless it's a trophy win or a european qualification. I'd also prefer him to Laudrup and Bilic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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