Klaus Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I hope this isnt just the beginning, of one of Pardew style 'get out of jail' runs. Where we would perhaps be unbeaten in 6/7 games, but then go on a run of 1 win in 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spark Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Only an absolute imbecile would start Cissé ahead of Mitrovic against Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I admit I don't like the way we are playing at the moment but it has produced two surprising results. Do we lack the players to play possession/passing football or is it a case of having zero confidence to play such football? Hopefully with these two results we will see more football being played and continue to pick up points. My own personal opinion, however, is that we lack the right kind of players and that if McClaren is to succeed, he needs players better suited to how he wants us to play. If this isn't a fluke, it does bode well that he can set the team up to play a different game to how he sees things long-term, to grind out short-term results. It is the kind of stuff that can keep a team up. Again I dont think he is the right man for us and ideally a relegation would be good to help with the AO movement, but I cannot dislike McClaren and I'm happy for him. His pre and post match interview was totally different to Pardew. He's an honest, thoughtful guy who doesn't get carried away or becomes too despondent. Hard work, spirit etc. has been his mantra for a few weeks now and as cliched as it is, hard work and commitment can go a long way in any form of business, sport or otherwise. We obviously improved when Mitorvic and Perez came on, but I'd stick with the same starting 11 against Villa at home. The current style is far away from how we started the season and he seems to have just gone for something more short-term, not that we were playing any different when we last looked competent 6 weeks back or so. I'm not that bothered about a philosophy, for now, our players are too mish-mash and any longevity in style is going to take some smart recruiting (HA). This is where I have far more faith in McClaren than I ever did with Pardew. With Pardew, this was it. This was his Newcastle and it was never going to improve. With McClaren though, there's been points this season where we have tried to play a possession based, passing style. Gives a bit of hope that once the results continue to pick up, players continue to grow in confidence, that we'll see more of that again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Got it spot on today. Hats off to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Looks like the coach driver on school trips, impossible not to be happy for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Quite nice to have a manager who isn't an egotistical arsehole, regardless of whether he's actually any good or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Pretty hard stat to find and I'm 99% sure the answer is no, but I'd love to know if Pardew ever won us a game from behind at HT with the sub(s) scoring the goals Isn't this a rare thing in general anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I think today is a case of the manager getting too much credit and, in the past, a bit too much criticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Either by design or by fluke he got it right today, I think Mitro and Perez needed to know they weren't undrinkable, if we had the options there's a few others that could do with the same message. We play great on the break, the first half wasn't great, it was about soaking up the pressure and we let a sloppy goal in, the second half we really turned the screw. I definitely think it won't be as easy as we hope next week against Villa unless they come at us, if they park the bus and make us break them down they'll do to us what we've done in the last 2 games. Hopefully McClaren can mix it up and get another result, how long since we last did 3 in a row? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I think Mitro and Perez needed to know they weren't undrinkable. Touché. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Nailed on to drop points against Villa - amirite? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Not liking these Gouffran cameos by the way. Thought we had seen the last of that useless tosser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Gouffran seems to be the default 4th choice CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I think Mitro and Perez needed to know they weren't undrinkable. Touché. I need to proof read more! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Not liking these Gouffran cameos by the way. Thought we had seen the last of that useless tosser. On the contrary I think he's using subs pretty well last few games. Seems to me that there is some competition for every area of the pitch now even if we aren't well equipped in some of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Gouffran seems to be the default 4th choice CM. He's not even a midfielder Poor bloke must just sit there sometimes wondering how the fuck this ever happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Gouffran seems to be the default 4th choice CM. Him coming on in injury time tells me it was a timewasting exercise rather than pecking order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Gouffran seems to be the default 4th choice CM. Him coming on in injury time tells me it was a timewasting exercise rather than pecking order. Lucky cunt has been able to celebrate a winner yesterday on the pitch and then the match sealer versus Liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 No matter what i/we think of him as a manager we better not fuck the january transfer window up by not going all in and improve the team/squad. At least not doing the bare minimum. Many "words" from Ashley's mouth in that interview, now it's time to back it up by action. I'm really expecting the bare minimum though, if anything, but i really do hope that McClaren gets backed in the coming window. If not we might as well care even less, if that's even possible? IF we get 3 quality additions i'll be content for now. CM, LB, CB. Make it happen you cunts! This club doesn't work this way, but i'd be over the moon if we could do well in the coming games and also have a good window. There "could" be a bit of a buzz around the place if we somehow turn the corner and improve the side as well. Not sure why i do this to myself, having the slightest bit of hope only ends up in disappointment in the end anyway, always Why why why... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 If we're 15th by Jan it'll be bare minimum for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 If we're 15th by Jan it'll be bare minimum for sure. Probably, and if this is the case i'd rather see us go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 If we're 15th by Jan it'll be bare minimum for sure. Probably, and if this is the case i'd rather see us go down. We're in transition, have turned the corner, now seeing what this group are capable of, be more patient etc. Don't know how people have so much faith to u-turn on the basis of one window. If he spends 20-50 million again I'll gladly eat humble pie with a side of turd compote but until then he's still the devil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Is there actually many people who literally believe that things have changed? Even if we spend in january i doubt that i'd believe anything has changed. After all these years its gonna take quite a few windows for me to even consider it. Nothing will make me forgive Ashley, no matter what changes. I'm kind of hoping to have some hope at least, if it makes any sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I believe people do. Heard on multiple podcasts people say he's stumped up the money and so is absolved and it's up to charnley and Carr. It's one party to blame to some. He's done the devil convincing he doesn't exist trick and done it perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Only if you discount (at the very least) Krul, Cisse, Ba and Ben Arfa. Our midfield wasn't great that season at all. We seldom controlled games and were totally reliant on the back 4 keeping things tight and those up top spinning straw into gold. Ne mention or credit for the player who was voted as one of the best two centre halves in the league by his fellow pros that season or who picked up the North East player of the year award? :lol: :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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