huss9 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 the guy just hasn't any presence about him. no aura, nothing inspirational. just wet and impotent and pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prefabtoon Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Another game we never turned up for. Come on Mclaren do us all a favor and don't turn up for training on Monday. You where found at at derby, and you are absolutely out of your depth in the premier league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 talks about stuff the players do- things at the club like hes an outsider - hes the bloke being paid to do something about them not just talk about them and laugh them off FFS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Carr is not the problem imo. Hire a manager and give him control over signings...Carr can still do his job - any reason Carr would´t accept this model? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 talks about stuff the players do- things at the club like hes an outsider - hes the bloke being paid to do something about them not just talk about them and laugh them off FFS! That's the thing that annoys me about him. We'll try harder next time bollocks, and how football is a cruel mistress etc. The mistress is obviously telling him to go back to his wife because he can't get it up. Time for another change and now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 He's not getting sacked like, he's just not. Pardew style everyone is blaming the poor quality of the squad and roundly ignoring the fact he's getting sweet fuck all out of the players he does have, which happens to be his job. He'll be given money and unless the players that come in are very good and hit the ground running we'll be down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I agree I can't see him getting sacked unless things get really desperate. As long as we aren't bottom 3 at Christmas Ashley will just let it slide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 He's more likely to walk than get sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 He's more likely to walk than get sacked. If that does happen I suspect it'll be too late for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gomez Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 The whole club needs gutting and restructuring. We desperately need someone who knows football and the job in Charnley's position, but the fact that clubs like Leicester, Watford, Swansea and Southampton are showing infinitely more ambition than us shows you where Ashley stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 The whole club needs gutting and restructuring. We desperately need someone who knows football and the job in Charnley's position, but the fact that clubs like Leicester, Watford, Swansea and Southampton are showing infinitely more ambition than us shows you where Ashley stands. The combination of his unwillingness to be involved with the club day to day and his unwillingness to pay the going rate for people who have track records in developing players and systems, of actually winning things at football etc. is something that will forever haunt me I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Ashley needs to fuck off or put someone else in Charney's place that actually knows something about football. Getting rid of McClaren won't make a difference right now. However I agree, if he doesn't get what he wants in January, he'll walk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 The media will turn on SMC soon. For whatever reason all those journo cunts loved Pardew, they certainly don't love SMC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Liverpool could be absolutely brutal like, it might be the start of people turning on him, which might accelerate his departure if he's getting shit on the terraces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 The media will turn on SMC soon. For whatever reason all those journo cunts loved Pardew, they certainly don't love SMC. I highly doubt that. Stupid Geordies are getting what they deserve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Very little chance of him being sacked, almost zero of an improvement as a replacement. Not sure it will make much difference at this stage anyway, with the mackems and Villa not exactly getting much of a new manager bounce I think there's 3 doomed clubs down there right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Carr is not the problem imo. Hire a manager and give him control over signings...Carr can still do his job - any reason Carr would´t accept this model? Couldn't disagree more the anmount of money he has wasted on players clearly either not good enough or not suitable for the premiership is crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I can't work out how we got a performance like yesterday's. The squad has been in OK-ish form over the last few weeks (7 points out of 12 is what I expect from our lot, they're just not very good) and put in generally decent performances and then you get that sort of rubbish. We've actually been looking like a team for 6/7 weeks or so (bar Bournemouth and second half against City) but they slunk back to their disillusioned/not arsed mode so quickly. The sort of unity and determination we saw that began to turn the tide a bit just disappeared; lots of moaning, focusing on the wrong things and just not doing the very basic stuff. It's almost as if they thought they'd done enough to get themselves out of trouble and they could start to coast. Too many tossers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Carr is not the problem imo. Hire a manager and give him control over signings...Carr can still do his job - any reason Carr would´t accept this model? He is the man responsible for finding good players for his master and the vast majority simply haven't worked. He has been a massive failure in that sense and a prominent part of our own failure on the pitch. That said, a lot of players have been under coached and allowed to rot, that and a good number have been the wrong fit for the type of manager and tactics used. He has to go along with everyone else responsible for the recruitment of players, regardless. Ben Arfa vs Cabbella and Thauvin. One cost under 6m and was given away for nowt despite generally performing in his overall time here. Although the manager at the time, Pardew, is to blame for the Ben Arfa situation. His replacements, however, recommended by Carr cost over 20m combined together apparently and neither are fit to lace the former's boots. Poor scouting whatever the weather. Ashley, Carr, Charnley, Moncur, McClaren and his staff and even Beardsley, they all have to go. Not one of them are capable of doing a good job never mind an excellent one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Carr's been on borrowed time for a while. For a club who spends so little we've wasted loads on players with incredibly poor suitability for the PL. Sack him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Carr's been on borrowed time for a while. For a club who spends so little we've wasted loads on players with incredibly poor suitability for the PL. Sack him. Definitely seems like he operates as someone who is able to find out the contract status of players, rather than properly assess them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Hasn't got signed us a decent proper CM and Winger for us in years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 we have a bottom six squad, not sure any manager would do much better. Too many players are simple not good enough. For years our defence has been shocking, one you centre back from the Belgium league was never going to fix the defence. The centre of midfield would struggle in the conference to create chances . Not saying he is the right man, but I think others need to go before him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 He's going to have to drop some big players to get the team motivated again. The likes of Colo, Janmaat, Sissoko. He needs to somehow inject the spirit of competition that's been leached out of the club. Not easy, and won't go down well because the replacements are shit, but I can't see any other way to shake things up and get some life into the team again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 The moment he took Mitro off and put Cisse on and persisted with playing a fucking shite 4-5-1 when you're losing 0-2 to Leicester at home was it for me like, he's undoubtedly no better than his predecessor. Out of his depth and god awful to watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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