BONTEMPI Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Give him some money in Jan and if we haven't improved like we haven't in the 1st half of the season get rid! We have become painful to watch and that is a fact! Better than Roeder or Souness era's? No, not in football stakes but only in new owners and chairman! Many may argue about our league position but lets face facts! There has not been one game this season where i'd thought yes were going in the right direction, not one! His job now depends on any signings sanctioned by Mort, so if we get nothing in Jan there is no chance we can improve as a side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 We just lack the class to open teams up atm. Viduka's got the class to finish things off, same with Owen and I'd even say Martins. But creating chances, who do we have? Emre? The man who the fatty sends on with 15 minutes left in each game? Him? Milner? Duff? We lack some genuine class in the center of the park but this can be solved in the transfer window... Wecome to one of my posts Sept 2007. I know Parkster You need to get that other thread up and running again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hansen Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Given - 5 Beye - 5.5 Rozehnal - 4.5 Cacapa - 5 N'Zogbia - 6 Milner - 5 Butt - 5.5 Barton - 4.5 Smith - 4 Martins - 4 Viduka 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Paul Jewell deserves credit for Derby's second half performance. He observed that we were often playing 235 while attacking, so instructed the team to counter-attack early around our midfield and then isolate our centre halves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dev Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Incidentally why is Barton still playing? I know the halfwits are going to trundle out the usual excuses such as 'coming back from injury', 'getting used to our style of play', 'getting through defensive work'. But lets be honest he has been utter rubbish for a good few months on the trot now. He hasn't improved at all. Does anyone really still support his inclusion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Barring matches against us, Derby have 3 points from half a season of football. Extrapolate that and they are comfortably the worst team to ever have played Premiership football. For periods today they played us off the park. Pathetic. Duff was good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I found it so frustrating today when our players lost their footing at key times JESUS! we could've scored a few from those but Milner and Oba slipped when shooting....what if, oh well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Have you considered our players aren't that good? Agreed. We didn't drop any points due to bad tactics today. The only questionable selection IMO (Zog at left-back) was a non-issue. We dropped points because Barton, Butt, Rozenhal & Cacapa didn't perform well. Blame the manager for failing to motivate them or train them if you find that more convenient, but tactics don't really enter into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest exilim Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 “Chopping and changing managers here hasn’t worked and the success stories at other clubs are usually connected with longevity” - Chris Mort Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dev Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Give him some money in Jan and if we haven't improved like we haven't in the 1st half of the season get rid! We have become painful to watch and that is a fact! Better than Roeder or Souness era's? No, not in football stakes but only in new owners and chairman! Many may argue about our league position but lets face facts! There has not been one game this season where i'd thought yes were going in the right direction, not one! His job now depends on any signings sanctioned by Mort, so if we get nothing in Jan there is no chance we can improve as a side. This is the deal. Sam cannot beat a Derby with a team that is man for man already vastly superior in terms of anything you like. Transfer value, skill, wages, history in the EPL, any kind of comparison. Why give him more money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dev Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Chopping and changing managers here hasnt worked and the success stories at other clubs are usually connected with longevity - Chris Mort Funny people continue to quote this. Sam wasn't appointed by Mort so it really has very limited relevance. When Mort brings in his own man then you can bandy this quote about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I wanna see Emre and Duff start against Wigan. Maybe Duff wide right, push Zog up to the left wing and bring back Enrique. Also Taylor should come in for Rozehnal. Our central midfield really needs to be looked at in January. Butt and Barton are a terrible partnership there. They're so slow and can't keep possession under pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Its amazing that people can be so clueless as to remark with genuine innocent surprise that Derby, Wigan, the scum 'played their best all season' and such comments. Shit teams play well when other teams let them play well. Its easy for Derby to play well when we are so godawful incompetent we can't even retain the football coming out of our own half. Amazing how Derby never 'play their best' against well organized, attacking teams. Hard to play your best when you concede four goals though. Finally someone calls it as it is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest exilim Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Chopping and changing managers here hasnt worked and the success stories at other clubs are usually connected with longevity - Chris Mort Funny people continue to quote this. Sam wasn't appointed by Mort so it really has very limited relevance. When Mort brings in his own man then you can bandy this quote about. So that sentence isn't relevant just because Sam wasn't appointed by Mort? I don't see you point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 So Derby have taken more points from their 2 games against us than they have in their other 16 matches combined. Nice. Good thing I missed the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Give him some money in Jan and if we haven't improved like we haven't in the 1st half of the season get rid! We have become painful to watch and that is a fact! Better than Roeder or Souness era's? No, not in football stakes but only in new owners and chairman! Many may argue about our league position but lets face facts! There has not been one game this season where i'd thought yes were going in the right direction, not one! His job now depends on any signings sanctioned by Mort, so if we get nothing in Jan there is no chance we can improve as a side. This is the deal. Sam cannot beat a Derby with a team that is man for man already vastly superior in terms of anything you like. Transfer value, skill, wages, history in the EPL, any kind of comparison. Why give him more money? If the board call it like that, and there's no reason to suggest why they wouldn't, then we should sack him now as we need players and he needs backing, if not sack him, bring in their own man and back him to the hilt brining in quality players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 just got back from that shower of shite Barton Butt Smith Milner if Allardcye ever plays that midfield again he should be sacked on the spot, the guy is fucking clueless when it comes to attacking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 just got back from that shower of shite Barton Butt Smith Milner if Allardcye ever plays that midfield again he should be sacked on the spot, the guy is fucking clueless when it comes to attacking Was ridiculous that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shaun11177 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 i have never known any Manager play players out of position so consistently. The formation changes consistently,the players change every game-if Smith gets the captaincy that means he is in the team for definite and i dont agree with that. i think we are going to struggle to stay in the top half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 When you look at their results previous to this, it's shocking that we didn't win that. You can say we played well and stuff, but I don't think we were that good. We couldn't have been if we had to snatch a late equaliser. Derby nearly did the double over us, that sort of statistic is scary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Result confirms that the results of the last weeks have been merely papering over the cracks and we are shite. Good performance vs Arsenal, poor vs Brum and shite against Fulham, very lucky to get 7pts from those 3, especially when you consider we hit 2 injury time winners. Next 4 Prem games don't hold much hope, and with a hard last half of season I think my prediction of 12th will be right. Derby 7pts and 4 of those gifted by us Laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 No mention of Derby's timewasting, or the referee actively helping them? The cheating c*nt made Given retake a free-kick inside the box because it was slightly in the wrong place. Like it made a f*cking difference. Blatantly ignored obvious opportunities to play us the advantage, let the Derby players kick the ball away, walk off with the ball, etc. etc. They're going down - why not do it with a little bit of dignity. Piss off back to the Championship, and don't come back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxaux Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Was I watching a different game to the majority of the board? We were by far the superior team and if it wasn't for defensive deficiencies we would have walked away with all three points. First half we played the ball around pretty well and created openings throughout. Naturally this is irrelevant if you don't take your chances, Barnes took his but where was the closing down, you can't afford to give players with ability that much time and space. Second half began with Derby on the attack but as it played out we progressively improved until we bagged a deserved equalizer. Lets not forget we were only behind due to inept defending by Rozehnal, how can you allow a an opposition player breeze past you in such an important area of the field, it's elementary stuff. All in all it was a shocking result but the performance wasn't too bad. If it wasn't for the same old school boy errors at the back we would have been walking away with a comfortable 2-0 win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 No mention of Derby's timewasting, or the referee actively helping them? The cheating c*nt made Given retake a free-kick inside the box because it was slightly in the wrong place. Like it made a f*cking difference. Blatantly ignored obvious opportunities to play us the advantage, let the Derby players kick the ball away, walk off with the ball, etc. etc. Piss off back to the Championship, and don't come back. Was pathetic the amount of times players went down like they'd been shot, even when there was no-one near them. Dirty little cheats. Still doesn't excuse our performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 We didn't win so it must be time to sack the manager again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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