LRD Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 So with these new quotes from Aulas, does that mean we aren't getting him? Brinksmanship imo. They can't afford his wages. Gomis will move to another club by the end of the window. Whether it's to us, who knows? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 So with these new quotes from Aulas, does that mean we aren't getting him? Oh, we'll get him alright, he's just trying to crank up the pressure and make us panic. He obviously doesn't know that we do not panic with transfers. They don't seem to panic if it looks like we'll go down, I know we signed a few last January but we had identified those long before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Everton are a good example of how it could be done. They've been buying good British prospects for years (Lescott, Baines, Coleman, Jagielka etc) and always have a group of local players coming through. Doesn't do them much harm every year. Everton's first team is also getting more and more foreign dominated. Compare Everton's team from last season to the one from a couple of years earlier. How many English players in their starting 11? Not that many I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Not that it was good enough long term but our team when we came back up had; Ameobi, Carroll, Barton, Nolan, Smith , Guthrie, R.Taylor, Simpson,S.Taylor, Williamson,Sol Campbell, Harper and probably a few more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I dont give a fuck about money, i just like to see good players playing good football. Yep. I just want to see us up their challenging for the CL spots again, which a team of our stature should always be doing. It would be great if we could do that with local or English players, but I don't see why we should be the standard bearers for English football when everyone else has abandoned the game to greed. Disco mentioned Chelsea for example: they aren't even a big club, they are a middle of the road club which has been inflated into a super team by the influx of foreign money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Everton are a good example of how it could be done. They've been buying good British prospects for years (Lescott, Baines, Coleman, Jagielka etc) and always have a group of local players coming through. Doesn't do them much harm every year. Everton's first team is also getting more and more foreign dominated. Compare Everton's team from last season to the one from a couple of years earlier. How many English players in their starting 11? Not that many I think. Baines, Gibson, Jagielka, Naismith, Neville, Osman and Coleman all played 25+ games last year and there's a batch of young English players coming through this year who look exciting (Barkley, Stones, Garbutt etc). Factor in players like Howard, Distin, Anichebe and Pienaar who have loads of PL experience and might as well be British. They've also appointed a manager who loves developing young players and has already spoken of doing so at Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Everton are a good example of how it could be done. They've been buying good British prospects for years (Lescott, Baines, Coleman, Jagielka etc) and always have a group of local players coming through. Doesn't do them much harm every year. Everton's first team is also getting more and more foreign dominated. Compare Everton's team from last season to the one from a couple of years earlier. How many English players in their starting 11? Not that many I think. Baines, Gibson, Jagielka, Naismith, Neville, Osman and Coleman all played 25+ games last year and there's a batch of young English players coming through this year who look exciting (Barkley, Stones, Garbutt etc). Factor in players like Howard, Distin, Anichebe and Pienaar who have loads of PL experience and might as well be British. They've also appointed a manager who loves developing young players and has already spoken of doing so at Everton. Their starting 11 is still a lot less British than it was two years ago, but I'll be interested to see how they do compared to us over the next couple of seasons. Personally I think if we swapped our manager for theirs we'd piss all over them within a season, but I'm going to leave this topic for now as the thread is all over the place. I've opened another thread if you want to discuss on it further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I dont give a fuck about money, i just like to see good players playing good football. Yep. I just want to see us up their challenging for the CL spots again, which a team of our stature should always be doing. It would be great if we could do that with local or English players, but I don't see why we should be the standard bearers for English football when everyone else has abandoned the game to greed. Disco mentioned Chelsea for example: they aren't even a big club, they are a middle of the road club which has been inflated into a super team by the influx of foreign money. I'd love us to have a team of English players but in this day and age it's a pie in the sky dream. Even academy players now are different nationalities. As for Chelsea, fuck em. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Everton are hardly the Great English hope, they have signed 11 of those dirty foreigners (9 if you don't count Naismith or Kennedy) in the last 2 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 OM have signed Khelifa from Evian today which might end their interest in Gomis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheikBoom Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Lee Cryder @lee_Cryder 1m Confirmed by French PFL hat Marseille will be "at fault" if Bafetimbi Gomis deal to #nufc collapses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Who are the French PFL? Their players union? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheikBoom Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I think so yeah. I've seen their Twitter account, but I can't find it now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 You know that's a parody account, yeah? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturla Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/lyons-jean-michel-aulas-complains-french-5675609? Lyon complain to French football league for problems with Gomis move 7 Aug 2013 15:37 It has emerged that Marseille could be blamed if Bafetimbi Gomis’ move to Newcastle United falls through Share on print Share on email Bafetimbi GomisBafetimbi Gomis Lyon president Jean-Michel Aulas has filed a complaint to the French Professional Football League – and it has emerged that Marseille could be blamed if Bafetimbi Gomis’ move to the Magpies falls through. Aulas said last night that other people were to blame for derailing the move for Gomis . And following his complaint the French PFL responded today with this statement "If there is proof, there will be a debate before the commission. "Mr Aulas says that during negotiations between the representatives of Bafetimbi Gomis and Newcastle, Olympique de Marseille intervened to make contact with the player and his agents without having warned Lyon, something which the text of the regulation sets out. "And, as a result, if the negotiations with Newcastle should collapse, it would be Marseille's fault." Aulas had said: “I am very disappointed that the deal was never finished with Newcastle. Personally, I am very pessimistic (of a successful conclusion). Someone is pulling the strings behind the scenes. “I have filed a complaint for ‘destabilisation’. Things will be settled in front of the appropriate committee (of the French Professional Football League). “It is a complete disservice to Bafe. “He is a player that we respect. It completely flipped over with Newcastle. It was a priority that Bafe should have got what he wanted in terms of salary. “For the moment, the situation is blocked. “On the 30th August, if no solution is reached we will reintegrate Bafe in the squad. We will have to change our approach to Bafe’s situation. “Our desire is to settle things positively for everyone involved.” That fits with the twitter from the parody account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 You know that's a parody account, yeah? It's on his real account @lee_ryder: Confirmed by French PFL hat Marseille will be "at fault" if Bafetimbi Gomis deal to #nufc collapses. @lee_ryder: French PFL say that Marseille barged in on Gomis deal without consulting Lyon #nufc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheikBoom Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I'm confused. Aulas isn't been a melt? What is this sorcery? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 It pretty much fits in with what Kinnear said as well, about other clubs complicating the deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 It pretty much fits in with what Kinnear said as well, about other clubs complicating the deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Nah must be us, always is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 So why does OM barging into the deal mean it has to be off? Can we not just tell them to fuck off and continue negotiations or would that be far too sensible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Two words to tell him then basically 'Fuck Off' and look elsewhere. We can't be held to ransom by a player if he doesn't want to come so be it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 So why does OM barging into the deal mean it has to be off? Can we not just tell them to fuck off and continue negotiations or would that be far too sensible? If OM have persuaded Gomis' agents they will be able to pay them a nice fee if he hangs around until next summer then that might have made them a more attractive proposition to the Gomis camp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Dealing with French clubs has become tiresome. As tiresome as it can be for somebody who has absolutely no involvement in the process, whatsoever, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Based on that then, Gomis probably sees OM as his preferred choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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