Mole_Toonfan Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Lyon would be nuts to reject that tbh. Also if we got Remy and Gomis, we could make a decent side out of a 4-4-2 as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I would be more than happy with that although a new manager to point them in the right direction would also be helpful, my vote would be for Colo to be player manager with an older head on the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Lyon would be nuts to reject that tbh. Also if we got Remy and Gomis, we could make a decent side out of a 4-4-2 as well Who would play on the wings? Great striker options though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Lyon would be nuts to reject that tbh. Also if we got Remy and Gomis, we could make a decent side out of a 4-4-2 as well Who would play on the wings? Great striker options though. Wings But seriously its a good point, honestly would try Gouffran or Remy out there anything is better than Jonas or Obertan. At least with Gomis we would have the hold up option to get the rest of the midfield involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I think they will reject it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Lyon would be nuts to reject that tbh. Also if we got Remy and Gomis, we could make a decent side out of a 4-4-2 as well Who would play on the wings? Great striker options though. in a 4-4-2, assuming we were smart enough to train the players to play the system i'd have santon RW and benny LW and all throughout pre-season training would have had them working on beating their man and getting quality crosses in CM is the problem for me if we went 4-4-2, sissoko would have to play simply cause he can get up and down and i suppose cabaye due to how bad tiote is now but i don't think they would work as a CM pair has to be 4-3-3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Ben Arfa becomes more of an orthodox winger when played on the left. The problem is it seems to take a lot away from his game and he doesn't have the same joy cutting in like he does on the right. (except for that villa goal at home last season ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I think they will reject it Should send Aulas your photo, shake him up into accepting the bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I still think we are more suited to 4-2-3-1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Ben Arfa becomes more of an orthodox winger when played on the left. The problem is it seems to take a lot away from his game and he doesn't have the same joy cutting in like he does on the right. (except for that villa goal at home last season ) He's only played there about 4 or 5 times for us, if that. Scored at least twice from there too, if we're playing with inverted wingers (I'm not a fan) we have 1 player who can hit the by line and cross and his crossing is 7/10 at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Ben Arfa becomes more of an orthodox winger when played on the left. The problem is it seems to take a lot away from his game and he doesn't have the same joy cutting in like he does on the right. (except for that villa goal at home last season ) You are right. IMO Ben Arfa on either wing is a waste of his talent the way we play under Pardew. Has to play central. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I do kind of like the idea of Santon on the right wing and Ben Arfa on the left but we'd be screwed at left back if that is the case and there still isn't huge evidence that Santon can play on the right wing. Let's be honest here if we get go 4-4-2 the wingers will be Ben Arfa on the right and Jonas on the left which will just not work. 4-3-3 is the way forward for me. Makes the best use of our squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Because Pardew wants to play a 2 striker system don't necessarily mean we have to play flat 4-4-2 and force Ben Arfa to be a conventional winger. There's a few variations of the system like 4-3-1-2 or 4-2-2-2 which both would more suitable for the players we currently have. Huge question marks on Pardew mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 4-3-1-2 could work if we played something like this: Debuchey Mbiwa Colo Santon Sissoko Cabaye Marveux Ben Arfa Gomis Cisse There is enough pace there for the player to run the channels and still add width. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I do kind of like the idea of Santon on the right wing and Ben Arfa on the left but we'd be screwed at left back if that is the case and there still isn't huge evidence that Santon can play on the right wing. Let's be honest here if we get go 4-4-2 the wingers will be Ben Arfa on the right and Jonas on the left which will just not work. 4-3-3 is the way forward for me. Makes the best use of our squad. Yeah. If we get Remy then we could push him and Ben Arfa nice and high up the pitch playing off the striker and then try and get a nice formula in midfield with Cabaye, Tiote,Sissoko and/or Marveaux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Because Pardew wants to play a 2 striker system don't necessarily mean we have to play flat 4-4-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Because Pardew wants to play a 2 striker system don't necessarily mean we have to play flat 4-4-2 and force Ben Arfa to be a conventional winger. There's a few variations of the system like 4-3-1-2 or 4-2-2-2 which both would more suitable for the players we currently have. Huge question marks on Pardew mind. As if he has any clues to those systems. He'll be even more confused. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I do kind of like the idea of Santon on the right wing and Ben Arfa on the left but we'd be screwed at left back if that is the case and there still isn't huge evidence that Santon can play on the right wing. Let's be honest here if we get go 4-4-2 the wingers will be Ben Arfa on the right and Jonas on the left which will just not work. 4-3-3 is the way forward for me. Makes the best use of our squad. I wouldn't write off the idea of Mbiwa playing there a few times this coming season, especially if we were to bring in another defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Because Pardew wants to play a 2 striker system don't necessarily mean we have to play flat 4-4-2 and force Ben Arfa to be a conventional winger. There's a few variations of the system like 4-3-1-2 or 4-2-2-2 which both would more suitable for the players we currently have. Huge question marks on Pardew mind. As if he has any clues to those systems. He'll be even more confused. I'm trying to dream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Because Pardew wants to play a 2 striker system don't necessarily mean we have to play flat 4-4-2 and force Ben Arfa to be a conventional winger. There's a few variations of the system like 4-3-1-2 or 4-2-2-2 which both would more suitable for the players we currently have. Huge question marks on Pardew mind. http://i.imgur.com/v7Siswf.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Because Pardew wants to play a 2 striker system don't necessarily mean we have to play flat 4-4-2 and force Ben Arfa to be a conventional winger. There's a few variations of the system like 4-3-1-2 or 4-2-2-2 which both would more suitable for the players we currently have. Huge question marks on Pardew mind. As if he has any clues to those systems. He'll be even more confused. I'm trying to dream Mole mate, look at what you put 4-2-2-2. Alan says high Love a dreamer though, you keep dreaming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 http://i41.tinypic.com/2v3oj7k.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I take it nobody rates Tiote anymore ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 http://i41.tinypic.com/2v3oj7k.jpg Levitation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 http://i41.tinypic.com/2v3oj7k.jpg Levitation? Nah, that's Gomis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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