Dave Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 I don't see what was wrong with what he said tbh. Obviously getting into the multi-talented Brazil squad is harder for a Brazilian than getting into the wanky Honduras squad is for a Honduran. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 On 02/09/2010 at 14:59, Dave said: I don't see what was wrong with what he said tbh. Obviously getting into the multi-talented Brazil squad is harder for a Brazilian than getting into the wanky Honduras squad is for a Honduran. Yeah but Palacios will never get the chance to get called up to Brazil so you cannot compare the 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 On 02/09/2010 at 15:01, geordieboy91 said: Quote I don't see what was wrong with what he said tbh. Obviously getting into the multi-talented Brazil squad is harder for a Brazilian than getting into the wanky Honduras squad is for a Honduran. Yeah but Palacios will never get the chance to get called up to Brazil so you cannot compare the 2. He never said he could. I must be missing something here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Looking at it from a different angle, Kleberson still gets a call up. Just looked on wiki it says Sandro has only been capped once... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 On 02/09/2010 at 14:40, Village Idiot said: Makes me wonder who is the best player that never played for a "big" country? Puskas? Although Hungary was big back then. Dalglish, Souness, Law, Jinky Johnstone were all top class players in their day from my country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 On 02/09/2010 at 15:32, colinmk said: Quote Makes me wonder who is the best player that never played for a "big" country? Puskas? Although Hungary was big back then. Dalglish, Souness, Law, Jinky Johnstone were all top class players in their day from my country. Giggs, George Best, Liam Brady, Abedi Pele, Kanchelskis, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 On 02/09/2010 at 14:59, Dave said: I don't see what was wrong with what he said tbh. Obviously getting into the multi-talented Brazil squad is harder for a Brazilian than getting into the wanky Honduras squad is for a Honduran. Stop being so sensible Dave. Paulo Wanchope had many international caps. Case closed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 I only remember Pelé from his Torino days (where he indeed impressed me). Was he that good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Shevchenko Giggs Weah Drogba to an extent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 yeh it's harder to get called up to Brazil but that doesn't mean much beyond that. Elano started for them in the summer. He's not one of the best dozen players in that position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Hagi,Stoitchkov,Mijatovic,Hans Krankl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Joan Simun Edmundsson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 What are we using as a definition of "big" country? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 fat people. Like USA/Scotland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 George Weah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 On 02/09/2010 at 16:27, Tooj said: What are we using as a definition of "big" country? I don't know to be frank. Reach a WC final? Gives us: Uruguay Argentina Italy Brazil Czechoslovakia Germany Hungary Sweden Netherlands England France Spain which looks like a decent list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 You can't really consider the top African, Asian, and North American teams to be "small" nations when they have players throughout all of the top leagues and are consistently in big tournaments. Especially in the current, I would hardly consider Hungary to be better than these teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 On 02/09/2010 at 15:02, Dave said: Quote Quote I don't see what was wrong with what he said tbh. Obviously getting into the multi-talented Brazil squad is harder for a Brazilian than getting into the wanky Honduras squad is for a Honduran. Yeah but Palacios will never get the chance to get called up to Brazil so you cannot compare the 2. He never said he could. I must be missing something here. Because he's saying that Sandro MUST be better than Palacios simply because he plays for Brazil. Everyone is quite rightly making the point that the best player from one country (ie Ghana) can quite easily be better than an average one from another (ie Spain) so it's a pointless comparison. Surely you understand that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 To be fair, a limited player like Palacios would be nowhere near Brazil's team. Sandro's probably only there because he's yute anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 On 02/09/2010 at 16:43, Minister Babatunde ‽ said: You can't really consider the top African, Asian, and North American teams to be "small" nations when they have players throughout all of the top leagues and are consistently in big tournaments. Especially in the current, I would hardly consider Hungary to be better than these teams. I'm not saying they are "small", just not great in terms of achievement at the highest possible stage. And the 1950s Hungary team is one of the most influential of all time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 On 02/09/2010 at 16:47, Shearergol said: Quote Quote Quote I don't see what was wrong with what he said tbh. Obviously getting into the multi-talented Brazil squad is harder for a Brazilian than getting into the wanky Honduras squad is for a Honduran. Yeah but Palacios will never get the chance to get called up to Brazil so you cannot compare the 2. He never said he could. I must be missing something here. Because he's saying that Sandro MUST be better than Palacios simply because he plays for Brazil. Everyone is quite rightly making the point that the best player from one country (ie Ghana) can quite easily be better than an average one from another (ie Spain) so it's a pointless comparison. Surely you understand that? Link? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 On 02/09/2010 at 16:49, Minister Babatunde ‽ said: To be fair, a limited player like Palacios would be nowhere near Brazil's team. Sandro's probably only there because he's yute anyway. Dunga's Brazil would have had him, in my opinion. Of course I don't watch him as often as a Spurs supporter but he impressed me in the midfield destroyer role last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 On 02/09/2010 at 16:52, Dave said: Quote Quote Quote Quote I don't see what was wrong with what he said tbh. Obviously getting into the multi-talented Brazil squad is harder for a Brazilian than getting into the wanky Honduras squad is for a Honduran. Yeah but Palacios will never get the chance to get called up to Brazil so you cannot compare the 2. He never said he could. I must be missing something here. Because he's saying that Sandro MUST be better than Palacios simply because he plays for Brazil. Everyone is quite rightly making the point that the best player from one country (ie Ghana) can quite easily be better than an average one from another (ie Spain) so it's a pointless comparison. Surely you understand that? Link? Quote but regular call ups to the Brazil squad suggests more ability than Palacios getting called up for Honduras. Are you quibbling about the use of the word "suggests"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Absolutely nothing like the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 On 02/09/2010 at 16:54, Dave said: Absolutely nothing like the same. Are you joking here? He's suggesting that one player is better than the other based on which country he's getting called up to, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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