Ronaldo Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Beye may not be as good as Johnson but calling him average is very daft. How many players have shown him up in his time here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Honestly would rather have Beye at £3m than Johnson for £18m. Beye isn't too far off him on a good day, deffo the better defender no matter what day imo. eh? beye is average man. gets found wanting against better players and is not a patch on johnson going forward. plus johnson is on the right side of 30, unlike beye Beye is a better defender than him regardless of age. £3m would get him out of Newcastle, if that, and a £15m saving could have been spent elsewhere like a right winger. (I never mentioned about Beye going forward, that's something i agree with, but Johnson isn't even that great, much rather have Boswinga) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Johnson couldn't lace Habib Beye's boots, not from a defensive point of view anyway. The bloke's a shambles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Johnson is average the majority of the time. Even this year, it's not like he was world class every match or anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wshmag Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 this thread could be worth a bump, come the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Beye's a good defender and an excellent player to have in the team. Going forward he's very poor though. He'll be our main man next season if Al's got a single brain cell in his head Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 this thread could be worth a bump, come the end of the season. I think Johnson will benefit greatly from Rafa, almost like Pennant could have done if he got with it instead of playing the victim; but Johnson being a defender will always benefit more from someone like Rafa than Pennant, but an experienced talented RB in Beye with Lennon in front of him would have been a better option than £18m on Johnson for liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 18m on a full back, for a club which is in troubled financial straits? Mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 18m on a full back, for a club which is in troubled financial straits? Mental. I think this indicates the departure of Mascherano/Alonso or even both.Moneywise that is.Arbeloa too.from a footballing viewpoint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 18m on a full back, for a club which is in troubled financial straits? Mental. I think this indicates the departure of Mascherano/Alonso or even both. What a knob end Rafa is. You don't win the league by selling players like those two but spunking 18m on a full back. Reminds me of this http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/benitez-handed-%A320m-to-piss-straight-up-a-wall-200905211777/ Oh and poor Gareth Barry seeing Rafa refuse to spend that figure on him, then spending it on a striker he didn't actually rate, then a year later doing it again on a bog standard, average full back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Alonso is criminally underrated. Class, class player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Alonso is criminally underrated. Class, class player. Totally agree,same for Mascherano.Fuck knows what Curbishley was doing letting him rot in the reserves at West Ham???Mind,having said that,he was being kept out by Hayden Mullins!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I think Glenn Johnsen is decent but 18m is just insane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Alonso is criminally underrated. Class, class player. Yep, absolutely brilliant. Could never get my head around Rafa wanting to replace him, at a loss, with Barry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Alonso can go missing in games but I agree he's a very good player. Victim of his own playing style and position, he'll never really get the plaudits. Probably doesn't help that he's behind Xavi, Fabregas, Iniesta and Senna for Spain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I think Mascherano Alonso Gerrard is a superb combination. There's the destroyer, the passer and the aggressor. All the ingredients are there, they just need some brilliance on the wings. If they could get Silva in they'd almost be there imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I hope to dear God we didn't spend that much on a full-back. Christ, we should have bought Dani Alves when we could have had him for less than that. He'd better be insanely good for us for that money. Unbelievable amount. And we still need a winger, just as we have since Rafa took over. Perhaps he things Johnson can do that job. Kuyt will cover while Johnson bombs on down the wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 18m on a full back, for a club which is in troubled financial straits? Mental. I think this indicates the departure of Mascherano/Alonso or even both. What a knob end Rafa is. You don't win the league by selling players like those two but spunking 18m on a full back. Exactly. Mascherano is the best holding midfielder in the world, imo. The balance in their centre midfield is pretty much perfect how it is, why the fuck would he want to dismantle it.. What they need to win the league is to get another top class striker to partner Torres. With Ronaldo and now Tevez aswell leaving Man Utd, this would be Liverpool's best chance yet to wn the Premiership, but once again Benitez's tinkering will no doubt cost them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I hope to dear God we didn't spend that much on a full-back. Christ, we should have bought Dani Alves when we could have had him for less than that. He'd better be insanely good for us for that money. Unbelievable amount. And we still need a winger, just as we have since Rafa took over. Perhaps he things Johnson can do that job. Actually played on the wing a fair bit for Pompey this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Mascherano isn't even the best Argentinian holding midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Please don't tell me you think Cambiasso is a better holding midfielder then Mascherano?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Coloccini ftw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 18m on a full back, for a club which is in troubled financial straits? Mental. I think this indicates the departure of Mascherano/Alonso or even both. What a knob end Rafa is. You don't win the league by selling players like those two but spunking 18m on a full back. Reminds me of this http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/benitez-handed-%A320m-to-piss-straight-up-a-wall-200905211777/ Oh and poor Gareth Barry seeing Rafa refuse to spend that figure on him, then spending it on a striker he didn't actually rate, then a year later doing it again on a bog standard, average full back. that daily mash website is hilarious. just read the darren fletcher article Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Please don't tell me you think Cambiasso is a better holding midfielder then Mascherano?. Yes, also Colo vs City was better than anything I've seen from Javier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Cambiasso is miles ahead of Mascherano ffs, what kind of creature are you KD? Im with KD here,Mascherano,imo,is the best holding midfield player in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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