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Fabricio Coloccini signed from Deportivo La Coruña on 5 year deal

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Would be a good signing - obviously has pedigree on his side and is good player in his own right, and with regards to South American defenders adapting to the EPL i do have a slight preference towards the Argentines.

 

The likes of Alex - ie. the Brazilians - place a greater reliance on their recovery attributes because overall they're play much more of a free-wheeling/attack-minded game as opposed to the more regimented/disciplined Argentinian counterparts. You can see the spot the difference between the two nations' respective approach or mindsets at Youth International level, call it positional discipline for namesake. IMO players like Collocini, those who have come through a dominant Argentine youth system in the last decade, have had the idea of defending as a single phalanx/unit - or playing the part in maintaining the rearguard's defensive shape - from an early age. In other words they're well coached from the team aspect of defending, and overall they're a safer bet in our league where individuals, or risktaking orientated centrehalves who frequently abandon their line in search of the highlight reel tackle or interception ala Chelsea's Alex, are punished as teams employ a higher defensive line leaving more exploitable space behind when their risktaking goes balls-up.

 

To get Collocini i think the pieces will have to fall into place in a similar manner which led to us signing Spiderman. Jimenez will try using his contacts in Spain as a means of determining 1. how long he has left on his current contract and 2. what his current wage demands are. If we are in for him i think we'll follow the same route as per Spiderman. At the moment i don't envision Ashley, who imo is running the club according to the spreadsheet bottom line, going the exta mile while rubberstamping a substantial outlay on a 26 year old with plenty of miles left on his contract, who in 3-4 years time will potentially have no resale value.

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Would be a good signing - obviously has pedigree on his side and is good player in his own right, and with regards to South American defenders adapting to the EPL i do have a slight preference towards the Argentines.

 

The likes of Alex - ie. the Brazilians - place a greater reliance on their recovery attributes because overall they're play much more of a free-wheeling/attack-minded game as opposed to the more regimented/disciplined Argentinian counterparts. You can see the spot the difference between the two nations' respective approach or mindsets at Youth International level, call it positional discipline for namesake. IMO players like Collocini, those who have come through a dominant Argentine youth system in the last decade, have had the idea of defending as a single phalanx/unit - or playing the part in maintaining the rearguard's defensive shape - from an early age. In other words they're well coached from the team aspect of defending, and overall they're a safer bet in our league where individuals, or risktaking orientated centrehalves who frequently abandon their line in search of the highlight reel tackle or interception ala Chelsea's Alex, are punished as teams employ a higher defensive line leaving more exploitable space behind when their risktaking goes balls-up.

 

To get Collocini i think the pieces will have to fall into place in a similar manner which led to us signing Spiderman. Jimenez will try using his contacts in Spain as a means of determining 1. how long he has left on his current contract and 2. what his current wage demands are. If we are in for him i think we'll follow the same route as per Spiderman. At the moment i don't envision Ashley, who imo is running the club according to the spreadsheet bottom line, going the exta mile while rubberstamping a substantial outlay on a 26 year old with plenty of miles left on his contract, who in 3-4 years time will potentially have no resale value.

 

There won't be any more Websters due to the rule that a player has to hand in their notice within ten days of their club's final league game.

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even Webster didn't adhere to that rule. he was banned for 2 weeks for handing his notice in late.

 

Technicality though. As Hearts were in the Cup Final, most people assumed that the notice period counted back from that game.

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Not one but two more Argys as well as Coloccini according to Anal Oliver

 

Jul 26 2008  by Alan Oliver, Evening Chronicle

Kevin Keegan

 

NEWCASTLE United have set their sights on TWO Argentinian central defenders – and Kevin Keegan will be happy to sign ONE of them before he takes his side to Old Trafford three weeks tomorrow.

 

But if United can pull off both signings they should have no trouble gelling, because they have played together in the same Argentinian national team, along with new boy Jonas Gutierrez.

 

United’s recruitment team of Dennis Wise and Tony Jimenez have been on the trail of Deportivo La Coruna’s Fabricio Coloccini for some time now, and he was linked with a move to St James’s Park in Glenn Roeder’s time as manager. But the Chronicle can reveal that United are also looking at Coloccini’s fellow Argentinian Nicolas Burdisso, who is now with Inter Milan.

 

Both Burdisso and Coloccini are products of Argentina’s most famous club – Boca Juniors.

 

Coloccini is 26 and, after starting his career with Boca, he has seen service with AC Milan and four clubs on loan – San Lorenzo, Alaves, Atletico Madrid and Villarreal – before linking up with Deportivo in 2004.

 

But he did not play in either of the InterToto Cup semi-finals with United in 2005 – both of which were won 2-1 by the Spanish outfit.

 

What Kevin Keegan will like about Coloccini is that he is as comfortable at right-back as he is as a central defender.

 

Burdisso and Coloccini have been together in the Argentinian side since 2003, and they have 20 and 27 full caps respectively. Burdisso hit the headlines in a Champions League game between Valencia and Inter Milan a year past March when a fracas broke out and he suffered a broken nose following a punch in the face from opposing player David Navarro.

 

Apart from Nobby Solano and Tino Asprilla, United have not been well served by players from South America in recent years.

 

But the beauty of bringing in players from abroad is that the transfer fee is usually spread over three or four seasons.

 

However, United will be happy once they have completed the signing of Gutierrez from Real Mallorca, and they do not seem to have any problem bringing in players from South America.

 

And they are still trying to persuade Liverpool to let them have their Argentinian left-back Emiliano Insua.

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Not one but two more Argys as well as Coloccini according to Anal Oliver

 

Jul 26 2008  by Alan Oliver, Evening Chronicle

Kevin Keegan

 

NEWCASTLE United have set their sights on TWO Argentinian central defenders and Kevin Keegan will be happy to sign ONE of them before he takes his side to Old Trafford three weeks tomorrow.

 

But if United can pull off both signings they should have no trouble gelling, because they have played together in the same Argentinian national team, along with new boy Jonas Gutierrez.

 

Uniteds recruitment team of Dennis Wise and Tony Jimenez have been on the trail of Deportivo La Corunas Fabricio Coloccini for some time now, and he was linked with a move to St Jamess Park in Glenn Roeders time as manager. But the Chronicle can reveal that United are also looking at Coloccinis fellow Argentinian Nicolas Burdisso, who is now with Inter Milan.

 

Both Burdisso and Coloccini are products of Argentinas most famous club Boca Juniors.

 

Coloccini is 26 and, after starting his career with Boca, he has seen service with AC Milan and four clubs on loan San Lorenzo, Alaves, Atletico Madrid and Villarreal before linking up with Deportivo in 2004.

 

But he did not play in either of the InterToto Cup semi-finals with United in 2005 both of which were won 2-1 by the Spanish outfit.

 

What Kevin Keegan will like about Coloccini is that he is as comfortable at right-back as he is as a central defender.

 

Burdisso and Coloccini have been together in the Argentinian side since 2003, and they have 20 and 27 full caps respectively. Burdisso hit the headlines in a Champions League game between Valencia and Inter Milan a year past March when a fracas broke out and he suffered a broken nose following a punch in the face from opposing player David Navarro.

 

Apart from Nobby Solano and Tino Asprilla, United have not been well served by players from South America in recent years.

 

But the beauty of bringing in players from abroad is that the transfer fee is usually spread over three or four seasons.

 

However, United will be happy once they have completed the signing of Gutierrez from Real Mallorca, and they do not seem to have any problem bringing in players from South America.

 

And they are still trying to persuade Liverpool to let them have their Argentinian left-back Emiliano Insua.

 

hmmm, Burdisso and Colocinni. Beats Taylor and Edgar

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seen on a deportivo forum that their club president has admitted that newcastle have made contact about Coloccini, but nothing more to report as yet.

 

also read this from a deportivo fan:

 

It's incredible to hear that no firm offers have reached Deportivo's office, as said by Coloccini himself. We're talking about the best central defender of Spain last year, who was 100% fit and only received 2(!) yellow cards. A guy who led one of the best defences in Spain of the second part of the competition, and one who scored none less than 4 goals. An Argentinean international player who has a huge curriculum.

 

Only Lendoiro knows our financial position, but not selling Coloccini sounds excellent to most supporters. He's one of those players who can make a difference between a great defence and a good defence.

 

For now we're keeping our block intact with Filipe, Lopo, Pablo Amo, Coloccini, Manuel Pablo, Sergio, De Guzman, Lafita and Xisco and we might even see Wilhelmsson return (a small chance though). Add to this the skills of Zé Castro, Guardado, Valeron, Mista and Omar Bravo and a player like Coloccini, we might win something this year at Deportivo.

 

http://www.deportivo-la-coruna.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1717&page=68

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he is quality player,he is still young,versatile,not a injury prone and he is physicaly very strong.

he'll be excellent signing.

its time for wise,jimenes to do some work and prove why they work here .

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Someone on that forum: 'The rumour in riazor.org is that Newcastle offered €10 million, but Tottenham apparently have offered €13.5 million.'

 

:rolleyes:

 

 

this shity club is everywhere.

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Tottenham remind of a kid at playschool that wants whatever toy the other kid is playing with but instantly gets bored when they have it go for the kids new toy.

 

Roll on 1st Sept.

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Tottenham remind of a kid at playschool that wants whatever toy the other kid is playing with

 

More like that weird kid in the corner eating glue, but still gets called a 'child prodigee' by his parents.

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a signing like this is a dream. but seriously, we are too small a club for him. unless we pay him big wages

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So is there actually anything to talk about with regards to this one or not? I'd sign him just for his hair btw.

 

According to their manager (so says a fan of theirs anyway) we've made an approach, and some Spanish sites reckon he's set to move here.

 

Believe it when I see it, as usual.

 

You seen him much?

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The likes of Alex - ie. the Brazilians - place a greater reliance on their recovery attributes because overall they're play much more of a free-wheeling/attack-minded game

 

When was the last time Brazil played like that. At the moment Dunga is fooking killing it.

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