Syrette Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 What on earth has Upson done to warrant yet another call-up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I'd have him in the squad for sure, even more shocking is the fact that Ashley Young hasn't made it, class act. Should be guaranteed a start with Joe Cole not fit, disgraceful some of the players in the squad ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 It's a game against Kazakhstan. If you can't bring the likes of Ashley Young in and give them a chance for a competitive international game like that, when can you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 It's a game against Kazakhstan. If you can't bring the likes of Ashley Young in and give them a chance for a competitive international game like that, when can you? Well, Kazakhstan's players are not very nice. That's probably why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Ashley Young for Downing A better centre back for Matthew fucking Upson - shouldn't be too hard to find Owen should surely be in there somewhere, however you can't leave out Defoe on recent form (even if he's dogshit at International level by and large) Rooney is a guaranteed starter alongside Heskey or Crouch. Anyone who played against Croatia isn't going to be dropped from the squad, be interesting to see if he goes back to Gerrard/Lampard. I hope he leaves Gerrard out tbh, think if it's one of him or Lampard, Lampard has been better this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Heskey & Crouch in the squad ahead of Owen, oh dear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Surprised, he simply didn't seem as up for it as other players. That's what I thought - mentally, he didn't look there. I don't know if he was asked to do a role he didn't like, but he just didn't get himself involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 It'll be the same side that faced Croatia, but with Joe Cole out injured I'd almost guarantee that Gerrard will come in for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Oh I forgot Joe Cole was injured, conundrum solved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Nicky Butt left out the squad agan I see.. joke. Hoho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 What the frig, hes been on good form. What more do you need as a striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 If Capello wasn't impressed with the previous games, he won't have been impressed today. Owen was gash as a striker today, anyhow - really frustrating. Hardly any movement whatsoever all match. Surprised, he simply didn't seem as up for it as other players. That's how i saw it as well today. I've been quite heartened by some of Owen's performances this season but today he looked over the hill. Didn't really offer the midfield anything to aim for, and unlike other matches, didn't offer much from deep either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Heskey & Crouch in the squad ahead of Owen, oh dear. I've certainly not got a problem with Crouch being there. He's in form and he offers something different, plus his link-up play is decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Owen Heskey worked against Russia? Dat and another reason for OWen to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 How jenas can get in is absurd, is he on form? is his team playing well? he isnt even popular with spurs fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Capello has more or less spelled out why he's not picking Owen. He doesn't think he offers enough in terms of creating things for others. That's the reason why the big four don't want Owen either. The game has moved on, and the overall package that Owen is offering isn't enough for the very top level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Capello has more or less spelled out why he's not picking Owen. He doesn't think he offers enough in terms of creating things for others. That's the reason why the big four don't want Owen either. The game has moved on, and the overall package that Owen is offering isn't enough for the very top level. Owen's overall package is irrelevent. If you're in dire need of a goal in a crucial game, who would you prefer to bring off the bench, Michael Owen, or Emile Heskey? Are there any crucial games coming up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Capello has more or less spelled out why he's not picking Owen. He doesn't think he offers enough in terms of creating things for others. That's the reason why the big four don't want Owen either. The game has moved on, and the overall package that Owen is offering isn't enough for the very top level. Owen's overall package is irrelevent. If you're in dire need of a goal in a crucial game, who would you prefer to bring off the bench, Michael Owen, or Emile Heskey? There's a case for using him from the bench, like Real did, in the end. Either Capello feels he has other options, or he thinks that it's better to leave him out altogether, I don't know. Heskey is a totally different player. They're not really competing for the same place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Heskey is a totally different player. They're not really competing for the same place. Despite them being different players, I think they are. All of the strikers are fighting for a place upfront alongside Rooney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 You get what you get with Owen. At his best, a predator. At his worst, well, you get what you did today. Very little of anything. Either way he's not going to turn into a creative player, and why the hell should he, he's a striker ffs, so there's no point trying to find these attributes in him. Meanwhile, Ashley Young has surely eaten Capello's hamster or burnt his house down or something. I'd lose faith in the England team if I were Young, that in a game against Kazakhstan, he still can't get in. Even if Capello wanted to start the same side that did so well in Croatia, fair enough, but surely have Young at least on the bench to give a run-out to. Jenas? Why! The thought of him keeping Young out is just laughable. Already have 3 very able central midfielders in the squad in Gerrard Lampard and Barry. Upson? Why! Have I missed something? And, has Wayne Bridge played for Chelsea this season? Thoroughly disappointing choices. Regardless, 6 points should be ensured whatever combination of players we ultimately go with. (They're both at home aren't they?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Heskey is a totally different player. They're not really competing for the same place. Despite them being different players, I think they are. All of the strikers are fighting for a place upfront alongside Rooney. You're right, it is Rooney plus AN Other. But I'd put Rooney with a target man, and that's not Owen's role. On Ashley Young, I think when Capello played him in that friendly against the USA, Young looked a bit out of his depth. A bit think, basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I'd love to see Agbonglahor (Sp?) and Rooney up front with two out of Walcott, Young and Joe Cole on the wings. With either Gerrard or Lampard in CM, there should be plenty of goals from that front five. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I'd love to see Agbonglahor (Sp?) and Rooney up front with two out of Walcott, Young and Joe Cole on the wings. With either Gerrard or Lampard in CM, there should be plenty of goals from that front five. Not sure about starting Agbonlahor but certainly have him in the squad, same with Young. Yes in an ideal world I'd want Young starting but that would involve being slightly ambituous and changing something which we're unlikely to realistically see. Mind after Zagreb, Capello will be able to justify the astounding omission of Young. (Think Agbonlahor has been left in the U21s because of the playoff). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearer9 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 The Bridge decision is also baffling, surely Shorey or Baines should get a run out, considering they are playing regularly. While Defoe has probably been picked because of his good form this year, he's a very similar player to Owen in that he's quick and relies on others to set up goals without really contributing to the overall play, yet he has an appalling record for England when compared to Owen. The thing is though, with Capello, while the team hasn't played well under him bar Croatia and T&T, the results are still there, and that's hard to argue with. But at the end of the day, this is a team that will put in another 2nd round or maybe Qtr Final appearance at the world cup and then lose to a team that knows how to play football or take penalties. Nothing appears to have changed on that front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 The Bridge decision is also baffling, surely Shorey or Baines should get a run out, considering they are playing regularly. While Defoe has probably been picked because of his good form this year, he's a very similar player to Owen in that he's quick and relies on others to set up goals without really contributing to the overall play, yet he has an appalling record for England when compared to Owen. The thing is though, with Capello, while the team hasn't played well under him bar Croatia and T&T, the results are still there, and that's hard to argue with. But at the end of the day, this is a team that will put in another 2nd round or maybe Qtr Final appearance at the world cup and then lose to a team that knows how to play football or take penalties. Nothing appears to have changed on that front. Bridge is back-up to Cole at club level, so not sure how that should affect his international chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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