midds Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Must admit I was astonished when they, as the home side, against us, with the utterly dreadful away record, decided that letting us have the ball for 85% of the time in which we settled into the game and started landing some punches was the best way to start the game. I'll never be able to answer it but it was incredible to see even if it did benefit us. They looked even worse than Burnley when we went there and slapped them, at least put up a bit of resistance for more than a random 10 minute period. Firmly believe that if they hadn't sacked the pervert this morning and kept faith with him he'd have been odds on to take them down, they were that bad. We've first hand experience of it and this Spurs team are exceptionally poor AND gutless AND poorly managed. He'd have taken them down imho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 8 minutes ago, SteV said: Before yesterday I was absolutely convinced Spurs were in no danger of going down, and I probably still am, but that first half performance was massively concerning. I know they were similar against Man City, but they can do that to you. To be absolutely dominated at home by us in our current situation, should set alarm bells ringing. Have we ever had 9 corners in the first half of a PL game away from home before? Yeah. Remember telling me this beforehand? I know it’s hard to see clearly when your team is in a bad run, especially when you seem to lose another player every game, but there’s very, very little chance of you going down. There’s a reason I listen to what some fans of other teams say. They often actually know what they are talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong989 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, leffe186 said: We were really good in the 80s. We were really bad in the 90s (bad timing with the Premier League). But it does sometimes seem like people pretend the years from 2009-2022 never happened. Edit: I realize you have a specific reason to do so True enough, I remember the CHampions League run and under Poch I enjoyed the football and it was not an unlikeable team, Harry and Son, I really liked Lucas Moura, felt he got a bad shake by Poch. I thought he could have been used more, but obviously didnt see him week in week out and he was definitely inconsistent with final ball, but his mentality and drive were huge. Levy selling Dembele for 10mil has to go down as the stupidest thing a Chair could do. They could have pushed on but Levy missed the boat, stepping over pounds to pick up pence. Its the feeling I get now, that we didn't do enough with the clubs structure to prepare us for the success we've just had and we now may have missed a window to establish ourselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 (edited) 9 minutes ago, midds said: Must admit I was astonished when they, as the home side, against us, with the utterly dreadful away record, decided that letting us have the ball for 85% of the time in which we settled into the game and started landing some punches was the best way to start the game. I'll never be able to answer it but it was incredible to see even if it did benefit us. They looked even worse than Burnley when we went there and slapped them, at least put up a bit of resistance for more than a random 10 minute period. Firmly believe that if they hadn't sacked the pervert this morning and kept faith with him he'd have been odds on to take them down, they were that bad. We've first hand experience of it and this Spurs team are exceptionally poor AND gutless AND poorly managed. He'd have taken them down imho There are some stories coming out now that are plausible and instructive. It’s interesting that they didn’t come out a while ago - and weirdly faintly encouraging - but they do suggest that the team above him (as I implied) are incompetent in many ways. He should have been gone in December. Edited February 11 by leffe186 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 minute ago, leffe186 said: There’s a reason I listen to what some fans of other teams say. They often actually know what they are talking about. I mean I’m still fairly convinced I’ll be proved correct, it’ll just be a canny bit closer than I imagined… Although having a good quality CF (assuming he stays fit) generally always gets you a win or two over time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 15 minutes ago, SteV said: Before yesterday I was absolutely convinced Spurs were in no danger of going down, and I probably still am, but that first half performance was massively concerning. I know they were similar against Man City, but they can do that to you. To be absolutely dominated at home by us in our current situation, should set alarm bells ringing. Have we ever had 9 corners in the first half of a PL game away from home before? The Spurs equivalent of Goldbridge said “we gave Newcastle so many corners it was like Batimore in The Wire” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Just now, GeordieDazzler said: The Spurs equivalent of Goldbridge said “we gave Newcastle so many corners it was like Batimore in The Wire” Who the fuck is our equivalent of Goodbridge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 minute ago, SteV said: I mean I’m still fairly convinced I’ll be proved correct, it’ll just be a canny bit closer than I imagined… Although having a good quality CF (assuming he stays fit) generally always gets you a win or two over time. Assuming what now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 4 minutes ago, leffe186 said: Who the fuck is our equivalent of Goodbridge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 minute ago, leffe186 said: Assuming what now? Well yes, that Odobert injury probably summed things up, doing an ACL out of absolutely fuck all. Don’t what’s wrong with Richarlison, but they need him back just to take minutes off Solanke so he doesn’t break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Just now, GeordieDazzler said: Was going to guess Expressions but thought you might have meant Flav. Yeah, he can be quite funny . Small doses, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 6 minutes ago, leffe186 said: There are some stories coming out now that are plausible and instructive. It’s interesting that they didn’t come out a while ago - and weirdly faintly encouraging - but they do suggest that the team above him (as I implied) are incompetent in many ways. He should have been gone in December. They just all the hallmarks of a team that are absolutely petrified to even play the game, hence the lack of movement Hoddle was banging on about. None of them want the ball, none of them seem to want to take any responsibility and a lot of them are hiding and just leaving it to someone else. It looks eerily familiar to us in 09, just an inherent lack of confidence and bottle which renders anything else completely moot. You can pick who you like, play them where you like but if they're all hiding and none of them want the ball then it just doesn't fucking matter. Frank would have taken them down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 minute ago, SteV said: Well yes, that Odobert injury probably summed things up, doing an ACL out of absolutely fuck all. Don’t what’s wrong with Richarlison, but they need him back just to take minutes off Solanke so he doesn’t break. Injured. Always injured. Supposedly he’s due back after Porro, some time next month I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 11 minutes ago, midds said: They just all the hallmarks of a team that are absolutely petrified to even play the game, hence the lack of movement Hoddle was banging on about. None of them want the ball, none of them seem to want to take any responsibility and a lot of them are hiding and just leaving it to someone else. It looks eerily familiar to us in 09, just an inherent lack of confidence and bottle which renders anything else completely moot. You can pick who you like, play them where you like but if they're all hiding and none of them want the ball then it just doesn't fucking matter. Frank would have taken them down Aside from the fact he never could pick who he liked or play them where he liked - one reason why he got more rope than usual - it’s absolutely clear that the players had no faith in him. I watched the Frankfurt game very carefully and broke it down at length on Spurscommunity - IIRC the first reply though I was being way too negative. In that game it wasn’t that they weren’t moving completely, it’s that they’d have periods of not moving at all in front of the ball and then suddenly they’d do some really nice work - Kolo Muani coming wide, deep or looking to get behind the defence, Simons or Odobert coming into the space he’d leave, Udogie pushing on, whoever we had at RB looking wide. Then it would suddenly stop happening again. They’d do it some of the time. I wondered if they were conserving energy, or following instructions, or disobeying instructions. It was impossible to tell. Note that two of those players are already injured again and maybe out for the season. Palhinha was sort of playing RCB but the Frankfurt #15 kept finding that space between midfield and defence in the first half and Palhinha would never step up to close him down, or consistently have another right-sided player do it instead. They just let it slide, when Frank or one of the coaches should have been sorting it out - Palhinha’s out of position so I can’t blame him all that much. Ultimately and to what @SteV said about a good quality CF, Solanke came on in the second half and took them apart. Made all the right runs, held the ball up, let Simons play around him. They can do it. It just always seems to wait until we’ve fucked the game then the shackles come off. The Man City game was a case in point. Their first goal came from Bissouma being dispossessed but he shouldn’t even be in the squad let alone starting games. The second goal also came because Man City pressed us and we gave it away…but we’d had the ball for ages. There were no options at all for anyone on the ball at the back because TF had set it all up wrong. People were complaining that the players weren’t working hard enough to find space but that was irrelevant - he’d fucked it up. Then Dragusin (just come back after a year out, should have been getting a few mins as sub to ease him in but now he has to play every game) ended up near his own goal line in the LCB position. He doesn’t get enough on his clearance with his wrong foot - two passes and it’s in the back of the net. All the cockerels coming home to roost. A shitty formation and tactics, and an unfit player forced to play a full game out of position because of injuries to everyone. Then second half, Romero goes off, the formation changes back to four at the back and suddenly we look good. Despite a CM playing at RB (Gray), another CM playing at RCB (Palhinha) and the aforementioned unfit Dragusin at LCB up against Haaland et al we go for it, pull the two goals back and should have got more. Only…Romero came off at half time because he was actually sick and only started because he had to. Odobert was sick too. Was it by accident or design that the change worked? Were all the other late flurries a case of the players telling Thomas to fuck off and doing their own thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Mixed bag of results tonight for these perennial relegation battlers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 2 hours ago, GeordieDazzler said: The Spurs equivalent of Goldbridge said “we gave Newcastle so many corners it was like Batimore in The Wire” Wew. Expressions>>>Goldbridge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 8 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: Mixed bag of results tonight for these perennial relegation battlers. About as good as could be hoped for tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 2 hours ago, GeordieDazzler said: The Spurs equivalent of Goldbridge said “we gave Newcastle so many corners it was like Batimore in The Wire” @Mike You having this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Scroll up Branquito. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rod Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 hours ago, midds said: Must admit I was astonished when they, as the home side, against us, with the utterly dreadful away record, decided that letting us have the ball for 85% of the time in which we settled into the game and started landing some punches was the best way to start the game. I'll never be able to answer it but it was incredible to see even if it did benefit us. They looked even worse than Burnley when we went there and slapped them, at least put up a bit of resistance for more than a random 10 minute period. Firmly believe that if they hadn't sacked the pervert this morning and kept faith with him he'd have been odds on to take them down, they were that bad. We've first hand experience of it and this Spurs team are exceptionally poor AND gutless AND poorly managed. He'd have taken them down imho We played quite well you know? The opposition wasn't Blyth Spartans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teslact Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 7 hours ago, Whitley mag said: From Levy trying to scupper our takeover, the signings of Judas/Gazza and regular aggro when walking back to Seven Sisters in the 80’s and 90’s, I do enjoy it when these cunts fall on bad times. What also made me fume was that Gazza was stretchered off rather than sent off in the final against Cloughie's Forest. I really liked that Forest team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gola Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Think Tottenham Hot Turds have had it worse with injuries tbf. We were decimated and it was awful but we weren't missing anyone as crucial as Kulu and Twatters for the whole season. We were also still a team very much together. Roflham Lolspurs definitely aren't that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 13 hours ago, leffe186 said: Was going to guess Expressions but thought you might have meant Flav. Yeah, he can be quite funny . Small doses, mind. From what i've seen of Flav, which is mainly through JLA, he doesn't deserve to be in the same click bait nonsense that Goldbridge and Rory Jennings are a part of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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