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Handing in a transfer request when the club he loves has done nowt but stand by him through a lot of bad shit is beyond disgusting imo. Thought he was one of us, he isn't. If we were holding him back i'd understand it, but were not, were both developing nicely together and could have for the next couple of years.

 

What a time to go, what a disastrous way to do it only hours after saying you want to stay put. The club has handled this is probably the best way possible, Carroll however looks like a prized twat, but we all know how stupid he is and how easily led, agents rule football and the wages Liverpool will offer now are something we hoped to offer him in 2 or 3 years time. Money talks and bullshit (Carroll) walks.

 

 

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At least 57% of the people on this board (who voted) have fallen for a classic PR exercise.

 

Oh f*** off.

 

How many people is that you've directly insulted over the last couple of days? :lol:

 

... Still as long as the cuntish magic word isn't typed.

 

He's talking bollocks man.

 

I'm sick of the "I'm sat up here on my high horse. Oh you naive little fools, how wrong you are and right I am" attitude. There's no proof that it was a PR exercise, other than sayso and rumour.

 

As far as the official line goes, we rejected a bid, Carroll handed in a transfer request and so we had to go back and accept the Liverpool bid.

 

How many times has the 'official line' been proven to be absolutely false, though? Ask yourself that, and then ask yourself how everyone involved in this whole transfer saga comes out smelling like roses to the people they want to smell like roses to, and surely you have to be somewhat suspicious. If you're not, like I said, you're incredibly naive.

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Handing in a transfer request when the club he loves has done nowt but stand by him through a lot of bad shit is beyond disgusting imo. Thought he was one of us, he isn't. If we were holding him back i'd understand it, but were not, were both developing nicely together and could have for the next couple of years.

 

What a time to go, what a disastrous way to do it only hours after saying you want to stay put. The club has handled this is probably the best way possible, Carroll however looks like a prized twat, but we all know how stupid he is and how easily led, agents rule football and the wages Liverpool will offer now are something we hoped to offer him in 2 or 3 years time. Money talks and bullshit (Carroll) walks.

 

 

 

Very well put. :clap:

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It wouldn't be so bad if we had decent players lined up, but it's quite plain to see Lambsarse is tralling around trying to buy shite like carlton cole or the likes.

 

This i'd imagine is why Hughton went and Alan "Yes Sir" Pardew was brought in so he wouldn't kick up a massive fuss when this happened. The Carroll transfer has been on the cards because Ashley knew with his form that he'd attract top doller in Jan and he'd be able to make some of his money back.

 

Hope people just don't turn up and drain the club of all it's resources because that's the only way to get rid of the fat twat from taking the piss out of everyone.

 

 

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Why hand in a transfer request now? He could easily move any time. Surely he'd stay at his boyhood club as the new #9 for a few more years? I can't see what is in it for him.

 

Especially when handing in a trasfer request would effectively bar him ever returning.

 

Unfuckingbelievable. :no:

 

It would bar him from partying in Newcastle. Boo fucking hoo. As if that's a big fucking deal. His family will still love him, his mates will still be mates with him, and I bet you that's going to be the case. And no one will give him shit when he's shopping for groceries in Tescos.

 

Look if I ever felt uncomfortable returning to Newcastle it would be absolutely devastating to me, but I did not say that.

I was talking about returning to the club he says he loves. Why would he choose to rule that out?

 

He's not. Some of our fans are quite fickle. You think if we start challenging and Liverpool hang around the top 6, their new owners leave and now all of a sudden we make a bid for him, he's going to say no because he's afraid to come back? Or that this scenario is ruled out? He'll be the white knight, coming back to help us go to the CL and win some trophies.

 

And him returning is such an unlikely scenario. The probability of it happening is so miniscule that he'd be an idiot if he took it into consideration during this whole business.

 

 

Nah, you're right. Fuck the sentiment, fuck the town and anyone who invested faith in him, hand in the trasfer request, and grab the cash.

 

Joy.

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When the dust settles we will all realise that £35m for a player with 6months experience who thrives on wing play and long balls will be a good deal for us. Liverpool do not put much in the box - He will flop there i am sure of that - We have to move on although its not what we all wanted

 

There's some sound logic there. Liverpool don't play a style which will make the most of Carroll's strengths. Not sure Dalglish is a manager who really knows what he wants to do either; play football or defensive crap with the long ball as an outlet.

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How many times has the 'official line' been proven to be absolutely false, though? Ask yourself that, and then ask yourself how everyone involved in this whole transfer saga comes out smelling like roses to the people they want to smell like roses to, and surely you have to be somewhat suspicious. If you're not, like I said, you're incredibly naive.

 

I'll ask again, why would Carroll go along with it? Or is that too naive of a question for you to answer?

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He's talking bollocks man.

 

I'm sick of the "I'm sat up here on my high horse. Oh you naive little fools, how wrong you are and right I am" attitude. There's no proof that it was a PR exercise, other than sayso and rumour.

 

As far as the official line goes, we rejected a bid, Carroll handed in a transfer request and so we had to go back and accept the Liverpool bid.

 

Because it makes complete sense to trust what they feed you regardless of their dodgy history of feeding people pigshit

 

Aslong as we can call it the official line, who cares who writes it. Genius.

 

What? Because it makes more sense to completely make up the suggestion that Ashley forced Carroll to hand in a transfer request? Aye whatever :rolleyes:

 

It makes a whole lot of sense to suggest that as being massively possible yes ?

 

You're missing the argument completely. No one is saying Carroll is free from blame. Ashley has made no attempt whatsoever to keep him here & has kept negotiating with the interested side whilst Carroll has been made aware he'd get a huge pay increase whilst Ashley offers nothing in return. Carroll submits transfer request exactly as Ashley wants.

 

They are both to blame. Ashley avoiding any blame is embarrassing.

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I'd rather Mike took this 35m as part payment for the club and sold it to someone for 45m to reach the 80m he reportedly wanted.

 

I hope Graham Carr has a f***ing gem up his sleeve.

Edit; aye, I'm talking shit. but I'm emotional.

This, and it wouldn't suprise me if he did Tiote was an absolute steal.

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How many times has the 'official line' been proven to be absolutely false, though? Ask yourself that, and then ask yourself how everyone involved in this whole transfer saga comes out smelling like roses to the people they want to smell like roses to, and surely you have to be somewhat suspicious. If you're not, like I said, you're incredibly naive.

 

I'll ask again, why would Carroll go along with it? Or is that too naive of a question for you to answer?

 

Money up front. Agent pressure. Who knows.

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Carroll is special in that there's fuck all like him, powerful yet quick, can score from anywhere but particularly strong in the air.

 

We can't replace him because there isn't anyone like him out there.

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Don't care what anyone says, it is completely fucking obvious to me that Ashely was always wanting to sell him. 35m pissed against the wall in one of his casinos no doubt, fuck off you prick. If the club had rejected the bids, he would of stayed.

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How many times has the 'official line' been proven to be absolutely false, though? Ask yourself that, and then ask yourself how everyone involved in this whole transfer saga comes out smelling like roses to the people they want to smell like roses to, and surely you have to be somewhat suspicious. If you're not, like I said, you're incredibly naive.

 

I'll ask again, why would Carroll go along with it? Or is that too naive of a question for you to answer?

 

I've answered that question about ten times in this thread. £££, and the feeling of not being wanted, saying fuck you to Ashley, confidence in his own abilities etc. These are all things that would affect him more than 'oh noes, I'm going to alienate some people who I never interact with in my daily life, oh my life is going to end!'. Like I said, he can afford to come back to Newcastle. He'll have a house to stay in, he'll have friends to spend time with. If he was jeopardising that, then he'd probably not go. He just might have to avoid partying in Newcastle for a bit, until this whole thing calms down. I bet if he actually comes back a few times and is seen out in the town, people will get used to it and the fuss will die down.

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Don't care what anyone says, it is completely f***ing obvious to me that Ashely was always wanting to sell him. 35m pissed against the wall in one of his casinos no doubt, f*** off you prick. If the club had rejected the bids, he would of stayed.

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People blaming Carroll are just stupid and ignorant there are no other words to describe them. Well actually there are.......

 

If Ashley didn't want to sell him he wouldn't have. Atletico Madrid didn't want to sell Aguero so they didn't despite the Spuds rumoured 38M offer. If NUFC weren't prepared to sell Carroll I don't believe for one minute he would have left or wanted to leave.

 

 

No player shouldn't be kept here against their will! It's a huge fee indeed and it's way much more than any player is really worth in our current squad

 

£35m may seem a lot. But...

 

Likelihood is we'll be panicked into shelling out 6-7m on someone like Carlton Cole (which in reality will be more like 10m when you add in singing on and agent's fees).

 

So that's the extra £10m or so we get for selling him now rather than in the summer down the shitter straight away, on a player who has every chance of ending up a surplus to requirements drain on the wage bill.

 

Then we've got £25m to spend. On what? Proven, top quality players and the best youngsters (like Carroll) just wouldn't sign for us due to our lack of ambition, status our wage structure and geographical location. So we're left with either second rate or unproven players, most of who have every chance of ending up a surplus to requirements drain on the wage bill.

 

So we'll have swapped Carroll for maybe the equivalent of Carlton Cole, Gutiérrez, Xisco and, if we get lucky, maybe a Tioté and a significantly higher wage bill. Does that represent good economic sense? That's not even factoring in what happens if we get relegated!

 

If a player like Carroll falls into the lap of a club like Newcastle we must do everything we can to keep him and build a team around him, because there is no way we can replace him, his equivalent just wouldn't come here. I don't believe we have. Transfer request or not, he's a Geordie, he's not going to go on strike if we say 'you're not going anywhere' or even wait until the summer.

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