alpal78 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 OK I'm tried of arguing with all the delusional people who are making up conspiracy theories as they go, they are not even consistent with each trying to outdo the other to see who is more delusional. At least band together in a room and come out with a consistent believable story line. My only concern now is how much of that money are we gonna spend this transfer window and who are we gonna get to replace Carroll with such limited time left. I'll be fucking livid if all we get in is Ireland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 At least 57% of the people on this board (who voted) have fallen for a classic PR exercise. If that is true then it will come out, for now all we know is that Carroll handed in a transfer request. He's probably seen mega £ signs and gone for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 At least 57% of the people on this board (who voted) have fallen for a classic PR exercise. you're not going to criticise carroll for being part of the plot to mislead nufc fans, then?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 He handed the transfer request in before 3pm, so we have had long enough to get some loan players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Why hand in a transfer request now? He could easily move any time. Surely he'd stay at his boyhood club as the new #9 for a few more years? I can't see what is in it for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 milesstarforth Miles Starforth Meant to say Carroll transfer request has 'conveniently' taken heat off #nufc hierarchy... milesstarforth Miles Starforth Meant to say Carroll transfer request has 'conveniently' taken heat off #nufc hierarchy... milesstarforth Miles Starforth Meant to say Carroll transfer request has 'conveniently' taken heat off #nufc hierarchy... milesstarforth Miles Starforth Meant to say Carroll transfer request has 'conveniently' taken heat off #nufc hierarchy... And yes. Time for a new hero. Ranger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Right. Will we buy before midnight? 11 Slow smart arse is slow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Can't blame ashley or the club for this, they rejected everything thrown at them, and then andy throws in a transfer request. I'm really gutted but £35m plus addons will be pretty handy at least, just scared how they'll spend it.. this. Not this. They did not reject the transfer They did. How ? Before the muppet handed in his request. They didnt reject a transfer, they held out for a higher price That is you fitting things into your conspiracy theory. That is basic common sense ffs. If someone has a massive amount of money coming in & is desperate for something you own, you dont accept the first offer they give you. Dont be simple. They were silent all day & made no attempt to come out to state he wasnt for sale atall. They kept inviting offers, explain how they didnt. They rejected a transfer, Carroll clearly tapped up by Liverpool put's in transfer request forcing Ashley's hand. NUFC then accept the next bid, as they want to try to get replacement in ASAP. Explain why we didnt make a definitive statement saying Carroll wasnt for sale today if he was not on offer. Liverpool didn't with Fernando Torres and he's joining Chelsea isn't he. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Macdonald on the legends now saying its time for Ranger to get himself together and step up hopefully he will step up. he need to feel the confidence from Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 People blaming Carroll are just stupid and ignorant there are no other words to describe them. Well actually there are....... If Ashley didn't want to sell him he wouldn't have. Atletico Madrid didn't want to sell Aguero so they didn't despite the Spuds rumoured 38M offer. If NUFC weren't prepared to sell Carroll I don't believe for one minute he would have left or wanted to leave. Carroll didn't have to put in a transfer request when we'd rejected two offers which I'm sure Ashley would have snapped Liverpool's hands off for if this was all about cash if he didn't want to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guinness_fiend Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 At least 57% of the people on this board (who voted) have fallen for a classic PR exercise. I look forward to you showing me evidence in support of this. All we know up to now is that Carroll has submitted a transfer request. There's no point acting all holier than thou when you have as People blaming Carroll are just stupid and ignorant there are no other words to describe them. Well actually there are....... If Ashley didn't want to sell him he wouldn't have. Atletico Madrid didn't want to sell Aguero so they didn't despite the Spuds rumoured 38M offer. If NUFC weren't prepared to sell Carroll I don't believe for one minute he would have left or wanted to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 People blaming Carroll are just stupid and ignorant there are no other words to describe them. Well actually there are....... If Ashley didn't want to sell him he wouldn't have. Atletico Madrid didn't want to sell Aguero so they didn't despite the Spuds rumoured 38M offer. If NUFC weren't prepared to sell Carroll I don't believe for one minute he would have left or wanted to leave. Carroll didn't have to put in a transfer request when we'd rejected two offers which I'm sure Ashley would have snapped Liverpool's hands off for if this was all about cash if he didn't want to go. this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Maybe Liverpool said to Chelsea- we will sell you Torres if you loan Newcastle Sturridge so we can buy Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Can't blame ashley or the club for this, they rejected everything thrown at them, and then andy throws in a transfer request. I'm really gutted but £35m plus addons will be pretty handy at least, just scared how they'll spend it.. this. Not this. They did not reject the transfer They did. How ? Before the muppet handed in his request. They didnt reject a transfer, they held out for a higher price That is you fitting things into your conspiracy theory. That is basic common sense ffs. If someone has a massive amount of money coming in & is desperate for something you own, you dont accept the first offer they give you. Dont be simple. They were silent all day & made no attempt to come out to state he wasnt for sale atall. They kept inviting offers, explain how they didnt. They rejected a transfer, Carroll clearly tapped up by Liverpool put's in transfer request forcing Ashley's hand. NUFC then accept the next bid, as they want to try to get replacement in ASAP. Explain why we didnt make a definitive statement saying Carroll wasnt for sale today if he was not on offer. Liverpool didn't with Fernando Torres and he's joining Chelsea isn't he. Yes..... the side not ruling out a transfer are selling their player and this helps you how Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Gutted. But high high risk for Liverpool - like someone said there are similarities to the Anelka to Real Madrid deal. Liverpool havent got any decent wingers (Kuyt, lol) so hardly will play to his strengths - whereas we have changed our whole system to play around him. I do think 35m really could have gotten them so much better, but smacks of severe desperation. 2 new strikers doesnt cover the fact their defence bar Agger is crap, and midfield bar Gerrard and Meireles is crap. If they were to offer pick of any players in exchange except Gerrard, there really wouldn't be anyone I would want to take. RE Carroll I'm very disappointed in him, personally. I was impressed the club knocked back two HUGE fees (more than he's worth to be fair) but if he said he didnt want to go - he wouldnt be going simple as that. Liverpool is not exactly the quietest city in the world, lots of potential for trouble arising for him - would Liverpool back him in the same way as us? Potentially 40M in the coffers though - not bad. Should we stay up, it could be an exciting summer - I refuse to believe they won't spend a vast chunk of the cash on the first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezeri Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 People blaming Carroll are just stupid and ignorant there are no other words to describe them. Well actually there are....... If Ashley didn't want to sell him he wouldn't have. Atletico Madrid didn't want to sell Aguero so they didn't despite the Spuds rumoured 38M offer. If NUFC weren't prepared to sell Carroll I don't believe for one minute he would have left or wanted to leave. No player shouldn't be kept here against their will! It's a huge fee indeed and it's way much more than any player is really worth in our current squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papo Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I could cry now. Seriously Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Fact is, those blaming Ashley for whole thing most likely still have had an hidden agenda against him still and are twisting this situation as a way to discredit him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Hope he fails medical. Just imagine ha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Can't blame ashley or the club for this, they rejected everything thrown at them, and then andy throws in a transfer request. I'm really gutted but £35m plus addons will be pretty handy at least, just scared how they'll spend it.. this. Not this. They did not reject the transfer They did. How ? Before the muppet handed in his request. They didnt reject a transfer, they held out for a higher price That is you fitting things into your conspiracy theory. That is basic common sense ffs. If someone has a massive amount of money coming in & is desperate for something you own, you dont accept the first offer they give you. Dont be simple. They were silent all day & made no attempt to come out to state he wasnt for sale atall. They kept inviting offers, explain how they didnt. They rejected a transfer, Carroll clearly tapped up by Liverpool put's in transfer request forcing Ashley's hand. NUFC then accept the next bid, as they want to try to get replacement in ASAP. You are Ashley's favourite fan. He must wish every Geordie was as naive as you are. Aye, and I bet your one the people that believe ashley has made money while at NUFC. Fact is Ashley showed some ambition by signing Ben Arfa this month when he didn't have to. How much? I'll transfer £100 to the server account right away if you can find proof. If you can't, you do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Maybe Liverpool said to Chelsea- we will sell you Torres if you loan Newcastle Sturridge so we can buy Carroll. We wish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Wonder if Andy will say something along the lines of what Shay said when he left "They made me do things that I didn't want to do in the end" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Carroll when he signed his new deal: “It does feel good when you hear that the club are not prepared to sell you at any price." So when he finds out they are prepared to sell him, even for stupid money, it changes his feeling. Simple as that. What, by rejecting a record fee for him? Then accepting a bigger one, yes. They accepted the same deal, only after Carroll asked to leave. But of course Ashley used his mind control to make him put in the request. I'm honestly astounded at the stupidity of this conspiracy bullshit, and thats saying something considering this is the internet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Why hand in a transfer request now? He could easily move any time. Surely he'd stay at his boyhood club as the new #9 for a few more years? I can't see what is in it for him. £ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rosstoon Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 When the dust settles we will all realise that £35m for a player with 6months experience who thrives on wing play and long balls will be a good deal for us. Liverpool do not put much in the box - He will flop there i am sure of that - We have to move on although its not what we all wanted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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