Hudson Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 He's not scoring, but the pundits seem to think he's doing alright. He's one of the main reasons that there doing so well. He's getting marked out of most games, but leaving huge amounts of space for others (nolan) to score from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 He's not scoring, but the pundits seem to think he's doing alright. http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/webimage/1.3831092.1336727385!image/2146631479.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_595/2146631479.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I've said (repeatedly) throughout the last year that Carroll was simply on a great run of form for a year and since then he's been the player he actually is and it's becoming more right by the game. Selling THIS player for £35 million is probably the best bit of business ever done in football. Only 14 PL goals before he moved At least Torres had a few hundred goals on his record to justify that move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Wayne Rooney only had 15 Everton goals before his big move - Liverpool probably thought they were buying the next big thing before his price went up further! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Wayne Rooney only had 15 Everton goals before his big move - Liverpool probably thought they were buying the next big thing before his price went up further! He was scoring goals at 16. His performances at Euro 2004 probably added £10million onto his fee as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 He is doing alrite, if you disregard his price tag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 He is doing alrite, if you disregard his price tag. Truth be told, I don't think West Ham care much about the 35m Liverpool paid. They probably aren't paying their entire wages either. But I still think he's better than he's showing. I'm just going from that 12 month streak playing for you, but I think it's a matter of confidence. He barely tries shooting or anything daring anymore. He would never score that screamer vs Liverpool, for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I wouldn't be surprised if he started looking himself if he came back and played for us here again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I think he's a guy that will probably flourish once the spotlight and the pressure is taken off him and he finds a team he's comfortable in. Somehow he reminds me of Kevin Davies, maybe because both are tall big fellas that played for Big Sam. Hot start to their careers, floundering after huge fees are paid for them... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 It's a huge pricetag to carry around everytime he steps onto a pitch. Not many would do well under the pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 It's a huge pricetag to carry around everytime he steps onto a pitch. Not many would do well under the pressure. http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvog96VqBx1qewc1xo1_500.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 It's a huge pricetag to carry around everytime he steps onto a pitch. Not many would do well under the pressure. Exactly. People like Zlatan and C Ronaldo seem to revel in it in a sense, but a proven and successful striker such as Torres even looks totally off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 It's a huge pricetag to carry around everytime he steps onto a pitch. Not many would do well under the pressure. Exactly. People like Zlatan and C Ronaldo seem to revel in it in a sense, but a proven and successful striker such as Torres even looks totally off He looked off for at least a year before they signed him. That knee injured certainly clipped his wings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 It's a huge pricetag to carry around everytime he steps onto a pitch. Not many would do well under the pressure. Exactly. People like Zlatan and C Ronaldo seem to revel in it in a sense, but a proven and successful striker such as Torres even looks totally off He looked off for at least a year before they signed him. That knee injured certainly clipped his wings. Without taking injuries and managerial changes into account I suppose that's true. He started turning after Rafa left didn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 He must look back and think "WTF happened" having gone from banging in goals for his boyhood club in front of the Gallowgate to pretty much mediocrity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Eighty grand a week probably cushions the blow mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Eighty grand a week probably cushions the blow mind. Is that net? Do Prem clubs absorb the tax (ie. is he on 160k gross p/w)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Is that net? Do Prem clubs absorb the tax (ie. is he on 160k gross p/w)? I'm not 100% sure but I think they are classed as self employed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 .... I think they're just taxed like everyone else tbh... thus 80k p/w is nearer 40k p/w net Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Oh I know's there no tax relief concession (the thought ) and I'm fairly sure the exclusivity/nature of their contracts would preclude them from being self-employed. Just curious if figures quoted in the media are gross or net. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Oh I know's there no tax relief concession (the thought ) and I'm fairly sure the exclusivity/nature of their contracts would preclude them from being self-employed. Just curious if figures quoted in the media are gross or net. Pretty sure it's gross. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Oh I know's there no tax relief concession (the thought ) and I'm fairly sure the exclusivity/nature of their contracts would preclude them from being self-employed. Just curious if figures quoted in the media are gross or net. Pretty sure it's gross. Yeah, makes you sick, doesn't it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lush Vlad Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I was expecting him to bounce back at West Ham, talk about a team tailor-made to his strengths. But it's not working for him at all so far. I'm not so sure. He always looked poor up top on his own. I know Nolan pretty much plays up with him a lot of the time, but he's not a striker. I remember Carroll getting bossed against Spurs and Blackpool playing as a lone striker. He doesn't really seem to have much control on his headers, teams often manage to pick up the second ball and I'm not sure he has the brain for it. I've also seen Michael Dawson marshall him easily on two seperate occassions. Hardly a world class centre back! That trio of Carroll, Nolan and Barton really was such a fundemental part of our success. It possibly exagerated their abilities as well, as they were so successful as a unit. Take one of the cogs out and we ground to a halt. We often looked s**** when one or two of the three didn't play, as they were nowhere near as effective on their own. Nolan has found a bit of form this season in fairness. But it's no surprise all of them struggled once they were split up. Teams must be wising up to him and West Ham haven't mastered the long diagonal, with Nolan running off Carroll. They seem to favour the aimless punt upfield approach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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