Shak Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Hmmm, guess it's Carroll's call now. Are West Ham obligated to take him for 17m at the end of the year then or can they pull out if he's shit? methinks they're obligated to bid 17m if they stay up but could then do something like offer him a fiver a week or something if they don't want him Im sure all those details would have to be sorted and agreed already. What would be the point otherwise Aye. Being committed to paying a total of 19m for him would be madness. I think Carroll can be a quality player again in the right circumstances, but I'd rather spend the money on two or three others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 It could be a Shearer to MUFC situation One price for us another for others? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 This thread is really missing a one of these.... £35m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Liverpool getting a good deal here tbh, no wonder why they've accepted it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 SSN West ham deny deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Well, if true Liverpool/Rodgers have shown their hand in that they really don't feel Carroll has a future there. If they're willing to let Carroll go for a season for 2 million without the guarantee West Ham will have to conclude the deal to make it 19 million (providing they stay up), I would even say they're desperate. Cue Carroll turning West Ham down and putting Liverpool in a very akward position when we come in with a loan with view to permanent bid on deadline day. Well if it wasn't clear before it certainly is now. Rodgers/Liverpool don't want Carroll. Carroll has the position of power now. If he only wants to come back to NUFC he can just refuse to go to West Ham. Liverpool will either be stuck with an unhappy player on huge wages or they'll be forced in to selling him to NUFC on the cheap. Deja vu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 West Ham deny a deal has been done acc to SSN twitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I really hope he goes, then we have longer to look at getting a different striker in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I really hope he goes, then we have longer to look at getting a different striker in. Like who? NAME THEM. The more Carroll goes for the less likely we'll get him so hopefully this is all true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Liverpool getting a good deal here tbh, no wonder why they've accepted it. If West Ham pay up at the end of the season, aye. Don't think they will, btw. Otherwise it's a horrible deal for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Think of the filth Gold and Sullivan are going to have to churn out to pay his wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 West Ham deny a deal has been done acc to SSN twitter. The BBC report wasn't completely clear. It sounds like they've agreed a deal with Liverpool and been allowed to talk to the player. Part 2 - probably the hard bit - is persuading the player to join. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Pool must have faith in him doing well on a loan. Cause if he goes to West Ham & they do badly, his valuation will plummet even further & he'll still be on their books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 For the fees being talked about, I'd rather see us bring in a player who is less trouble and offers more versatility. Ba and Cisse both like to play down the middle. Carroll does give added height in both penalty boxes and a more physical outlet up front, but given the choice I'd rather a forward with pace who likes to work the channels while Cisse or Ba stay more central. Someone more in Bellamy's mould. With Carroll, if 4-3-3 suits the team better then you're looking at Ba out of position and Carroll sat on the bench, whereas a more versatile forward can challenge the wide players as well. It suits our needs more and when you look at the run we had with 4-3-3 last season, it makes better sense to have a player who is adaptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Will he want to play for WestHam? Him and London, with good old joey and nolan sounds like a brilliant idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Where are West Ham supposed to be getting all their cash from - I thought they were in major financial trouble??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Pool must have faith in him doing well on a loan. Cause if he goes to West Ham & they do badly, his valuation will plummet even further & he'll still be on their books. Maybe they hope he'll look better as a big fish in a small pond and that might tempt someone else in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 For the fees being talked about, I'd rather see us bring in a player who is less trouble and offers more versatility. Ba and Cisse both like to play down the middle. Carroll does give added height in both penalty boxes and a more physical outlet up front, but given the choice I'd rather a forward with pace who likes to work the channels while Cisse or Ba stay more central. Someone more in Bellamy's mould. With Carroll, if 4-3-3 suits the team better then you're looking at Ba out of position and Carroll sat on the bench, whereas a more versatile forward can challenge the wide players as well. It suits our needs more and when you look at the run we had with 4-3-3 last season, it makes better sense to have a player who is adaptable. Aye. My worry is that it'll be Carroll or no striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Where are West Ham supposed to be getting all their cash from - I thought they were in major financial trouble??? They are relying on Carroll helping them stay up and use the massive increase in TV money that comes in next season to pay for it. Which is why the permanent deal is based on them staying up supposedly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 West Ham deny a deal has been done acc to SSN twitter. The BBC report wasn't completely clear. It sounds like they've agreed a deal with Liverpool and been allowed to talk to the player. Part 2 - probably the hard bit - is persuading the player to join. bingo though it does make a mockery of what rogers was saying just a few days ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Where are West Ham supposed to be getting all their cash from - I thought they were in major financial trouble??? Think the idea is that they buy him if they stay up, in which case they get next season's big TV windfall and he pays for himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Ian Abrahams @Moose_talkSPORT West Ham have not signed Andy Carroll just that a bid has been accepted - my information is the player doesnt want to join West Ham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Ian Abrahams @Moose_talkSPORT West Ham have not signed Andy Carroll just that a bid has been accepted - my information is the player doesnt want to join West Ham I'd trust Ryder more than that joke of a reporter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Yeh, he constantly gets stuff wrong. I think he's become a joke figure amongst West Ham fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Yeh, he constantly gets stuff wrong. I think he's become a joke figure amongst West Ham fans. It's not just West Ham fans. Over the past few weeks he's been called out very publicly on Twitter by officials from Everton and WBA for peddling utter shite. He's a fucking mongol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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