Joe Kinnear has triple heart bypass surgery, home on Sunday

[Thespence]

JFK should not read the papers today as he may find out he has suffered more than what he thinks.

[captainhaircut]

How do you complain of high blood pressure btw?

 

Do you think 'Oh, the pressure of my blood is a bit high, I better go to the hospital'?

[Guest sicko2ndbest]

JFK should not read the papers today as he may find out he has suffered more than what he thinks.

 

Especially the sunday sun who have pimped his job around!

[Wallace]

I wish Kinnear well but I hope if there is a contract on offer that his family persuade him it would be a very bad idea to stay on.

[Pilko]

Get well soon Joe.

 

I do agree with Ian56 though, Joe has to really seriously start thinking about things. At the very least we should be bringing another coach in if we can, I dont have any faith in Hughton or Calderwood to hold the fort if he needs any treatment.

 

 

Neither do I, but regardless of what division we are in next season, the man deserves a fucking medal tbh. Having to sit through all the shite as caretaker, doing training basically on his own, and then as JK was suspended he had to take care of the team again, he's been seemingly employed as assistant manager and first team coach, and he had to take care of the team again yesterday at short notice. Some people forget how hard this man must be working. Before Calderwood came in, I'd assume training would be just Kinnear and Hughton, and possibly Robbie Elliott doing 'fitness and conditioning' however many times a week he does it.

 

Although I did groan when I heard he was in charge, he really deserved that win yesterday. The man has never moaned about his position at the club despite being given so many different tasks to do.

[Thespence]

JFK should not read the papers today as he may find out he has suffered more than what he thinks.

 

Especially the sunday sun who have pimped his job around!

 

The Sunday Mirror "STROKE FEAR OF BOSS KINNEAR"

[Guest johnson293]

How do you complain of high blood pressure btw?

 

Do you think 'Oh, the pressure of my blood is a bit high, I better go to the hospital'?

 

I would suspect after the heart problems he suffered while at Wimbledon, he probably has an idea of the signs to look for.

 

Then he probably got the club docs to check it out for him who will have discovered it was high, and sent him to Hospital.

 

 

[SUPERTOON]

According to the papers he complained of pains in his left arm and collapsed.

[cp40]

How do you complain of high blood pressure btw?

 

Do you think 'Oh, the pressure of my blood is a bit high, I better go to the hospital'?

 

What gets me is the fucker's complaining he's got high blood pressure, without a thought for us fans who've had to endure the trauma he's been putting us through. Can't help wondering how many people's blood pressure has been raised because of his inept management so far.

 

He's been putting us through?

 

KK said the squad was too small and quit becasue of it. JK was the ONLY one to have the balls to give it a shot... not even Terry F*cking Vegetables wanted to know.

 

Funny, a couple of months ago it was "Good old Joe" he'sdoing pretty good, now as usual the knives are out, same as for very manager pretty much -- even good old  Bobby was lambasted on here.

 

The thing that boils my piss is that KK was wheeled out (after Milner sale) saying that were going to sign this and that and was he accused of being a liar? Joe has done the same after given and he is the biggest liar of all time.

 

The common thread is Llambias/Ashley, not the managers.... both KK and JK have been sold down the river big time. I feel sorry for him, he cant win either way.

 

Oh f***. I'll put a safety wink at the end - just for you - in future.

 

EDIT: 

 

Aye, whatever. Maybe you should be the manager, obviously a genius.

 

You think that he deliberately didnt want to sign anyone thus increasing the pressure on himself.

 

So then, wise-guy, why did KK come out with similar statements before the last transfer window??? Pehaps being told by those upstairs that we were (supposedly) making some signings?

 

 

Oh, sweet baby Jesus and the orphans.

 

I think you're missing the fact I was being sarcastic. 

 

Seriously though, if he is too sick to continue, who do you think would come to ruin their reputation in a relegation battle with a small squad containing several massively overpaid and under-performing players?

 

Any takers??? Someone would have to be pretty desperate no, oh like Joe Kinnear!!

 

Peter Reid

George Graham

David O'Leary

Ron Atkinson

Avram Grant

 

Just from the top of my head...

 

 

 

too many black players here to ask Mr Bojangles

[Guest sicko2ndbest]

According to the papers he complained of pains in his left arm and collapsed.

 

Cardiac arrest tbh

[Guest johnson293]

According to the papers he complained of pains in his left arm and collapsed.

 

Really - well if thats the case I don't blame him after last time - Mustn't be nice to think another (actual) heart attack is on its way!

 

But, while I hope he gets well soon, I still hope this shows Ashley that he needs to appoint someone else for the sake of Joe's health, and more importantly, the longterm well being of the club!

[Guest sicko2ndbest]

This could be a huge blessing in disguise

 

I know it sounds heartless (excuse the pun)

 

It saves face for Kinnear and he will be remembered affectionatly

It mean we can appoint a 'proper' manager in the summer

 

I wish him all the best!

[Dan Gleebals]

This could be a huge blessing in disguise

 

I know it sounds heartless (excuse the pun)

 

It saves face for Kinnear and he will be remembered affectionatly

It mean we can appoint a 'proper' manager in the summer

 

I wish him all the best!

 

 

Agree with this although the media would still stir it and say that the Club/Fans caused this and completely disregard the fact he had history in this department.

 

Time to move on while we can and quickly.

[black_n_white]

Feel gutted for Joe, he absoloutly wanted the best for this club and anyone who thikns otherwise can fuck off! Knowone else wanted the post which he took on and to be fair to him he's put up with a lot of shit from both the board of this club over transfers and the majority fans who i believe have never accepted him and what he was trying to do. Until these two factors are resolved this club will never turn the corner.

 

All i can say is get well soon Joe, thankyou for stepping up the plate and trying to save this club when knowone else could give a fuck, and if he has any sense he'l drop his dream of football management and concentrate on living the rest of his life.

[KaKa]

This could be a huge blessing in disguise

 

I know it sounds heartless (excuse the pun)

 

It saves face for Kinnear and he will be remembered affectionatly

It mean we can appoint a 'proper' manager in the summer

 

I wish him all the best!

 

Can we afford to wait till the summer though? Assuming Kinnear's health is as bad as being speculated.

 

Leaving things as they are until the summer is scary to me.

 

Wouldn't be surprised if we saw Poyet come in, and I think I would be okay with that at this point, particularly because he knows the prem so well, and I think we need that at this point of the season. He is quite highly rated and he is in tune with the powers that be which will bode well for player recruitment etc. He also will gel better with our South american/Spanish contingent and won't be overly bias towards the brits.

 

 

[KaKa]

Feel gutted for Joe, he absoloutly wanted the best for this club and anyone who thikns otherwise can f*** off! Knowone else wanted the post which he took on and to be fair to him he's put up with a lot of s*** from both the board of this club over transfers and the majority fans who i believe have never accepted him and what he was trying to do. Until these two factors are resolved this club will never turn the corner.

 

All i can say is get well soon Joe, thankyou for stepping up the plate and trying to save this club when knowone else could give a f***, and if he has any sense he'l drop his dream of football management and concentrate on living the rest of his life.

 

Agreed. 

[colinmk]

Feel gutted for Joe, he absoloutly wanted the best for this club and anyone who thikns otherwise can fuck off! Knowone else wanted the post which he took on and to be fair to him he's put up with a lot of shit from both the board of this club over transfers and the majority fans who i believe have never accepted him and what he was trying to do. Until these two factors are resolved this club will never turn the corner.

 

All i can say is get well soon Joe, thankyou for stepping up the plate and trying to save this club when knowone else could give a fuck, and if he has any sense he'l drop his dream of football management and concentrate on living the rest of his life.

 

I agree, I have a lot of respect for what he has done so far and no-one can accuse him of not giving 100% to the cause. Who else can we say that about at the club?

[Guest sicko2ndbest]

I think that if we stay up we should name a stand after him!

 

The 'fucking cunt' family enclosure

 

In all seriousness, if we stay up it is all down to him having the balls to come in, and will be forever remembered as a legend!

[Kasper]

So he's a legend now

[Dr Venkman]

Feel gutted for Joe, he absoloutly wanted the best for this club and anyone who thikns otherwise can fuck off! Knowone else wanted the post which he took on and to be fair to him he's put up with a lot of shit from both the board of this club over transfers and the majority fans who i believe have never accepted him and what he was trying to do. Until these two factors are resolved this club will never turn the corner.

 

All i can say is get well soon Joe, thankyou for stepping up the plate and trying to save this club when knowone else could give a fuck, and if he has any sense he'l drop his dream of football management and concentrate on living the rest of his life.

 

what are you actually SAYING here though? that 'wanting the best for the club' is a trait that should be applauded in a manager? isnt that part of the definition of a managers job? its like praising a mother for feeding her children. who never accepted what he was trying to do? he's been trying to win football matches for nufc, which nufc fans didnt accept that?

 

he took the job because he was desperate to get back into management, he was desperate to get back into management because no-one would give him a job, no-one would give him a job because he's not a good manager. just because he's in hospital doesnt mean we have to wax lyrical about him.

[Guest sicko2ndbest]

So he's a legend now

 

for keeping us up when no-one wanted the job and we were heading for oblivion, yes i think he is a legend.

 

a one season wonder in a positive sense

 

if he carries on next season however, i will re-consider my feelings towards him

[gdm]

we are no where near being safe

[Guest toonlass]

BBC as accurate as ever.

 

 

Kinnear told to stay in hospital  

 

Newcastle thoughts were with Kinnear

Newcastle manager Joe Kinnear is to remain in hospital under observation for a couple of days

 

Kinnear went to hospital after feeling unwell before the 3-2 win at West Brom, but he has undergone tests and is "okay" according to a club spokesman.

 

The spokesman added: "He will remain in hospital for observation for a couple of days and will then be discharged."

 

The 62-year-old Kinnear, who suffered a mild heart attack in March 1999, took over as Magpies boss in September 2008.

 

The former Spurs and Republic of Ireland defender was admitted to hospital on Saturday morning after complaining of high blood pressure, but was kept informed of events at the Hawthorns by his grandson.

 

"I would like to thank everyone who has been asking how I have been feeling," said Kinnear, who has been visited in hospital by first-team coach Hughton and Newcastle managing director Derek Llambias.

 

"Joe was in good spirits and had been listening to the game all afternoon," said Llambias. "And in typical Joe fashion, he was more concerned about the team's win than himself.

 

"He was nice and relaxed and hopefully will be back home in a couple of days."

 

After Kevin Keegan quit Newcastle earlier this season, Kinnear was offered a rolling monthly contract, which was then extended until the end of the season, while last month he revealed he had been offered a two-year deal to remain on Tyneside.

 

Hughton took charge of the side for the 3-2 victory at West Brom, which eased the Magpies' relegation worries.

 

"I have been with him for most of the time as per normal in the build-up to the game," said Hughton afterwards. "We prepared for the game as per normal.  606: DEBATE

Get well soon Joe and lets hope it's not serious

 

lukajay

 

"We have a good group of lads and with Joe, they are very fond of him as a manager and appreciate the job he has done.

 

"They were very much aware of what happened and I am sure that was in their minds."

 

Kinnear suffered his mild heart attack while in charge of Wimbledon and later stood down because of ill-health.

 

He went on to manage Luton and Nottingham Forest but then spent four years out of the game.

 

West Brom manager Tony Mowbray said: "We wish Joe a speedy recovery.

 

"We are all in this industry together and it can be a stressful job at times.

 

"Whether that had anything to do with it, I don't know but we hope he gets back to work as soon as he can."

 

Newcastle's next game is away at Everton on 22 February.

 

 

 

No its not, its at home! Anyway, get well soon Joe, cup of tea and the slippers on for a few days. Supporting Newcastle is bad enough on the blood pressure, so I cannot imagine what managing Newcastle United is like.

 

[Guest sicko2ndbest]

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0208/kinnearj.html

[Guest Howaythetoon]

How do you complain of high blood pressure btw?

 

Do you think 'Oh, the pressure of my blood is a bit high, I better go to the hospital'?

 

He will probably have a blood pressure monitor he carries around with him but high blood pressure alone isn't enough to get you admitted to hospital never mind be kept in for a few days. There are no real symptoms of high blood pressure although severe cases of it which is extremely rare, can bring about major headaches, fits, black outs and loss of vision and can lead to strokes and heart attacks. If he has this rare form of high blood pressure, he'll not be returning to the dugout any time soon and probably never again.

 

If he's had an angina attack or a heart attack, the same should apply although after a few days rest and some treatment there is nothing stopping him going back to the dugout, he will however run the risk of it happening again and anyone who has angina or who knows someone who does will know that its basically a ticking time bomb and will very likely kill you one day. My dad had it and it wasn't very nice let me tell you, sadly heart disease is hereditary so I better look after my own health a little bit better. Smoking of course is the major cause of heart disease, that and an unhealthy lifestyle in terms of diet and excercise.

 

If you suffer from angina stress and strenuous excercise will trigger an attack which leads to pins and needles or cramp in the arm, pain around the neck area, light headedness, a tightening of the chest and shooting pains directly from the heart.

 

I remember when my dad first suffered an angina attack, this was before we knew he had angina, and he collapsed and we all thought he was going to die.

 

He ended up on blood thinners, these tablets for his cholesterol, and he had to take inhalers for his breathing and some other tablets that he would have to put in his mouth, he had to take these daily. If he didn't he'd suffer an angina attack even in his sleep.

 

Another bloke I know has angina and luckily for him he is quite healthy in that he doesn't smoke and enjoys a healthy diet, but he's a stress head and because of that he will suffer angina attacks (very mild) daily simply because of the stress he puts himself under.

 

Another thing with angina sufferers is they bruise very badly due to their thin blood, if you grabbed an angina sufferer by the arm tightly for example, within minutes a bruise will start to form and their arm would look like someone has taken a hammer to it.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if his state of health is the reason why he hasn't signed the contract he seems intent on claiming he has been offered and that his health is also one of the reasons why Calderwood has joined the coaching staff.

 

He can come back and see out the season if he returns from his stay in hospital with the all clear, but you'd have to question his health issues if you were his doctor, employer and his wife, and indeed if you were the man himself.

 

Kinnear's health is more important than his job at Newcastle United.

 

We are speculating of course but you don't get admitted to hospital and stay there for a few days with high blood pressure which is actually common in most adults over the age of 40, unless there is something seriously wrong with you health wise and knowing Kinnear's health problems, it would be wise if all concerned recognised that and called time on this particular relationship, for the good of the club and more importantly Kinnear himself.