U23s & Academy

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And we're losing...

5-3

[Skirge]

From 3-0 up we lose 5-4 pmsl

[Unbelievable]

At least the future is bright. Ashley's blueprint is working a treat!

[LooneyToonArmy]

Flash kids show no respect as England great Beardsley's left to handle their

dirty kits

 

By Clarke Carlisle

 

 

As an indictment of how respect seems to have become an alien concept for today’s youth, it’s difficult to beat a reserve game I played for York City against Newcastle’s Academy.

 

It was freezing, pouring down and blowing a gale, and it’s fair to say we were making our mark on the Toon’s next generation.

 

The more we got stuck in, the less they liked it, and the inevitable petulant putdowns came our way.

 

 

‘I probably earn more than you,’ bleated one, while another chided: ‘You play for York because you’re s**t.’ Oh dear. Zero marks for originality and the use of ‘probably’ didn’t do much to put us in our place.

 

I singled one of them out and said: ‘I’ve played more league games this season than you’re likely to in your entire career and I’ll remind you of that when you’re serving me in Nando’s in another three years.’

 

 

There were big-time Charlies when I was an apprentice, but even the biggest showed a modicum of respect for the senior pros.

 

Not these boys. They had travelled down on one of those five-star luxury coaches, and afterwards they all plonked themselves back on it with their iPods plugged in. While they settled into their seats, the skips of dirty kit were pushed along the path below by Peter Beardsley. Yes, the former England great Peter Beardsley.

 

Generations before me would have carried an iconic figure like Peter on to the bus, let alone push the skips themselves, but that respect isn’t there any more.

 

It was one of the most disheartening sights I’ve seen.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2415653/Clarke-Carlisle-Flash-kids-respect-England-great-Peter-Beardsleys-left-handle-dirty-kits.html

[NEEJ]

That was yonks ago man.

Clark Carlisle is a bellwipe as well.

[Tiresias]

i remember that from before we cleared out a lot of the academy kids

[Cajun]

Sure that article must be a rehash, definitely read something along those lines before.

[NEEJ]

It's them pushing Carlisle's autobiography. Bloke's an attention whore.

[TaylorJ_01]

Quinn is the next Airey who was the next Spear. He should leave.

[Dr Colossus]

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/meet-kids-pushing-join-newcastles-first-team

[BillClinton]

How good is this Armstrong kid supposed to be? 4 goals in 4 games for the U21s isn't bad.

[Guest bimpy474]

How good is this Armstrong kid supposed to be? 4 goals in 4 games for the U21s isn't bad.

 

Next Michael Choppa.

[BillClinton]

Sadly that's still better than what we've been producing lately

 

[Cajun]

Chopra would probably get a fair amount of games these days

[binnsy]

How good is this Armstrong kid supposed to be? 4 goals in 4 games for the U21s isn't bad.

 

First time i have seen him play tonight and i was impressed,  small nippy player like Campbell and scored a cracking goal tonight following good play from Vukcic and Campbell, ball got laid back to him and he smashed a low left footed striker into bottom corner from about 20 yards.

 

He could/should have scored a couple more but then most of the team tonight could have scored 1,2 or 3 goals.  Still can't believe we ended up drawing that game 1-1 after such a dominant performance.

[themanupstairs]

How good is this Armstrong kid supposed to be? 4 goals in 4 games for the U21s isn't bad.

 

First time i have seen him play tonight and i was impressed,  small nippy player like Campbell and scored a cracking goal tonight following good play from Vukcic and Campbell, ball got laid back to him and he smashed a low left footed striker into bottom corner from about 20 yards.

 

He could/should have scored a couple more but then most of the team tonight could have scored 1,2 or 3 goals.  Still can't believe we ended up drawing that game 1-1 after such a dominant performance.

 

Chronicle called it a poor performance from us iirc. Armstrong's goal the only highlight they said.

[Wallace]

An article in The Journal this morning said the following:

 

"... the club's Academy remains in a sort of purgatory at the moment, playing in the elite level with no sign of the Category One status that club insiders insist is on its way."

 

[healthyaddiction]

If we don't have a category 1 status academy, how are we playing in the under 21 premier league?  You had to be category 1 to be included.  Did they just let us in to fill the numbers?

[Raconteur]

If we don't have a category 1 status academy, how are we playing in the under 21 premier league?  You had to be category 1 to be included.  Did they just let us in to fill the numbers?

No doubt about it

[leffe186]

If we don't have a category 1 status academy, how are we playing in the under 21 premier league?  You had to be category 1 to be included.  Did they just let us in to fill the numbers?

No doubt about it

 

Agreed. If you actually had a Category 1 academy I presume you would be shouting it from the rooftops.

[BottledDog]

If we don't have a category 1 status academy, how are we playing in the under 21 premier league?  You had to be category 1 to be included.  Did they just let us in to fill the numbers?

No doubt about it

 

Agreed. If you actually had a Category 1 academy I presume you would be shouting it from the rooftops.

 

From the Fan Forum Minutes  - "The board stated that the club had spent significant sums on the development side to get the Academy up to Category 1 status (i.e. investment in staffing and facilities)."

 

Does that suggest we've actually made it!?!?

 

Wish they would shout it from the rooftops to be honest. It's difficult to get much sense from these short answers in a meeting without much, if any context.

 

[ChrisMcQuillan]

It was announced in the summer that we'd got Category 1.

 

I say announced, I read that it had happened.

[Raconteur]

If we don't have a category 1 status academy, how are we playing in the under 21 premier league?  You had to be category 1 to be included.  Did they just let us in to fill the numbers?

No doubt about it

 

Agreed. If you actually had a Category 1 academy I presume you would be shouting it from the rooftops.

 

From the Fan Forum Minutes  - "The board stated that the club had spent significant sums on the development side to get the Academy up to Category 1 status (i.e. investment in staffing and facilities)."

 

Does that suggest we've actually made it!?!?

 

Wish they would shout it from the rooftops to be honest. It's difficult to get much sense from these short answers in a meeting without much, if any context.

 

I think the wording is quite deliberate, and I am still firmly of the opinion that no, we haven't been awarded Category 1 status. These people are specialists in giving shifty, equivocal answers, and the only reason you would give a shifty and equivocal answer in this case is if the answer is "no"...

 

That said, I would be happy to take it all back if there is a link to what ChricMcQuillan says...?

[Raconteur]

I've found the following link/story, but it's nothing more than assertions based on flawed logic:

 

http://www.nufcblog.com/2013/07/30/newcastle-achieve-category-one-academy-status/

 

Newcastle Achieve Belated Category One Academy Status

10:55 am, Tuesday, July 30th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 9 Comments

 

Newcastle failed to reach Category One Status for our Youth Academy last summer when the new rules went into effect, and it was a huge embarrassment for the club, because other local clubs Sunderland and Middlesbrough were granted the status.

 

The Elite Player Performance Plan as it’s called, was put into place last summer to try to bring through home-grown players and there four major reasons for the new structure:

 

*Allows clubs to have more coaching time with their youngsters Helps clubs create links with local schools to help young players get the best out of their football and academic education

* Helps clubs create links with local schools help young players get the best out of their football and academic education

* Allows clubs in category one to recruit youngsters from further afield than permitted under the former rules

* Clubs can work with the Football League to help determine compensation for youngsters

 

Recent clubs who made Category One status are Reading and Leicester and they made a big deal of it on their web-sites, but it looks as though Newcastle have made Category One Status but no announcement from the club.

 

And maybe that’s because the club were embarrassed that we didn’t make it in the first place, and an announcement will only bring attention to the fact we didn’t make it twelve months ago when Sunderland and Middlesbrough did.

 

There is going to be just one National U21 National Division next season, the Barclays Under-21 Premier League, rather than the regional divisions that were in place last season, and it’s composed of the 22 Category 1 Academies.

 

These are the club with that status:

 

Arsenal, Aston Villa, Blackburn Rovers, Bolton Wanderers, Chelsea, Everton, Fulham, Leicester City, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Middlesbrough, Newcastle United, Norwich City, Reading, Southampton, Stoke City, Sunderland, Tottenham Hotspur, West Bromwich Albion, West Ham United and Wolverhampton Wanderers.

 

And the league fixtures have just been announced for next season,  and Newcastle play Reading at the Madejski Stadium on 12th August, and it’s a 7:00 pm lick off.

 

This information is taken directly from the official Premier League site, so there’s no doubt we are now a Category One Academy – it’s just that we didn’t bother to announce it – so at the very least the Premier League thinks Newcastle are now a Category One Club.

 

But in any case, last summer we said Newcastle would be working very hard to correct what was a huge embarrassment, and it looks like the club have done just that.

 

It’s been a good reaction from Newcastle United, and the club should really announce the news – even if it’s just a one liner that keeps it low key.

[Raconteur]

Same applies to this link/story:

 

http://thespectatorsview.com/2013/07/20/newcastle-united-awarded-category-1-status-for-academy/

 

Newcastle United have now been granted the category 1 status for their academy.

 

The Magpies have been trying to get an upgrade their status for a long time but had failed until now.

 

Recently Joe Joyce, NUFC’s Academy manager, had said back in May that the Auditors were returning later that month to see if the Academy was now up to scratch, he then added that they would find out last month (June) as to whether Newcastle had succeeded in getting the essential top status.

 

On 19th July the Premier League confirmed that there will be an amended format for this season’s U21 league and in the process confirmed that the Newcastle United’s Academy facility is among the elite group.

 

As a result there will be one national division, the Barclays Under-21 Premier League, comprised of 22 Category 1 Academies.

 

The category 1 status will allow club to sign youth players from across England rather than a specified radius, in addition there will be a lot of other advantages that will benefit the club.

 

Although there has been an announcement from the Premier League, an official confirmation from the club is still awaited.