madras Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 fairly sure he'd have been given a chance if he showed anything in games or training to warrant being given a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Didn't he once admit to feigning injury to force a move? Or is that an urban legend? Really, once he's been under several managers here and on loan, and none has fully trusted in him, it just tells you something. Depor had a strike force that made Heskey and Carlton Cole look like Pelé and Gerd Müller and he got about a dozen starts in two seasons there on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Didn't he once admit to feigning injury to force a move? Or is that an urban legend? Really, once he's been under several managers here and on loan, and none has fully trusted in him, it just tells you something. Depor had a strike force that made Heskey and Carlton Cole look like Pelé and Gerd Müller and he got about a dozen starts in two seasons there on loan. Because they wouldn't give the poor little fella a chance. Stay strong sweet Xisco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Because they wouldn't give the poor little fella a chance. Stay strong sweet Xisco I actually agree with this. He's not worth the money. No doubt about that. But he is tarred by the D. Wise brush, and it's not his fault. He's had very little chance to show what he could do, and is prejudiced against for the time he came in, and what it sparked Still - I'll be happy to see him off back to Spain, and especially off the payroll, for all that ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Because they wouldn't give the poor little fella a chance. Stay strong sweet Xisco I actually agree with this. He's not worth the money. No doubt about that. But he is tarred by the D. Wise brush, and it's not his fault. He's had very little chance to show what he could do, and is prejudiced against for the time he came in, and what it sparked Still - I'll be happy to see him off back to Spain, for all that ! How does that explain him not getting chances out on loan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 He's had his chances, didn't Pardew say something a couple of months ago saying he'd only just started showing signs of life in training? Just because he's not been in any squads doesn't mean he's not had a chance to show something in training or for the reserves. I'm not going to feel sorry for him for ruining he career, I don't know if he's tried to force a move or something behind the scenes but i'm sure he's more than happy to sit around and pick up his 50k a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 How does that explain him not getting chances out on loan? Er....he WAS on loan wasn't he ? In Spain ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 How does that explain him not getting chances out on loan? Er....he WAS on loan wasn't he ? In Spain ? Guessing he means that even when he was at other clubs they barely even played him. Can hardly blame that on the Wise effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 How does that explain him not getting chances out on loan? Er....he WAS on loan wasn't he ? In Spain ? Yes, if you read above he started about 6 games a season despite the players in front of him being pretty shite. I don't know why some can't accept that the player in question might just not be good enough. Some of the reasons given for Xisco not getting games have been hilarious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Yes, if you read above he started about 6 games a season despite the players in front of him being pretty s****. I don't know why some can't accept that the player in question might just not be good enough. Some of the reasons given for Xisco not getting games have been hilarious Understand the team he did play over there for, wanted him back. That wouldn't have happened if he was just farting about while there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Why isn't he there then? and why didn' they play him more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Can only be two viable explanations for me, either a) he's just not good enough/lacks any kind of motivation b) the rumours of us having to pay appearance premium are true. Either way it didn't work out and good luck to him, waste of a shirt number and £50k a week. The last remnant of what was wrong with this club in the inflated prices/stupid wages era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Anyone who thinks Xisco didn't get a fair chance at NUFC should make sure they continue to follow his career when he leaves NUFC. You'll see how good he is then. My opinion of him is that he must be shite. In his time at NUFC, none of the numerous managers have ever given him a run in the team. Even when he went out on loan he wasn't a regular. Deportivo had him on loan when they were in Segunda División and he still didn't impress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Anyone who thinks Xisco didn't get a fair chance at NUFC should make sure they continue to follow his career when he leaves NUFC. You'll see how good he is then. My opinion of him is that he must be s****. In his time at NUFC, none of the numerous managers have ever given him a run in the team. Even when he went out on loan he wasn't a regular. Deportivo had him on loan when they were in Segunda División and he still didn't impress. This. I saw him once in a pre-season game and just felt embarrassed for the lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Must have been in absolute dreamland when we came knocking with that contract. Said himself he wouldn't have moved if the wages weren't so high. I don't feel sorry for him, he moved for the money like many would and put his career second. I don't believe that the managers we've had since he's been here have all been oblivious to his footballing ability (maybe Kinnear!), he probably has just not been good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 If the lad wanted to play surely he'd have pushed for a transfer request a long time ago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 If the £50k a week is true it's probably 10 times what he was on at Deportivo, can't blame him for turning it down but I don't feel sorry for him and seeing comments about us ruining his career, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Must have been in absolute dreamland when we came knocking with that contract. Said himself he wouldn't have moved if the wages weren't so high. I don't feel sorry for him, he moved for the money like many would and put his career second. I don't believe that the managers we've had since he's been here have all been oblivious to his footballing ability (maybe Kinnear!), he probably has just not been good enough. I still remember the collective in Spanish football forums when you came in for him. He was never such a big prospect to begin with, and had just had his first half-decent season as a pro. And then comes NUFC with €8m and the wages of a prince. Surely you should have a street dedicated to Newcastle in La Coruña, no other club has done more to ease Depor's financial troubles than NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 if he doesn`t get a move to Cordoba I`m sure he could find a place on Sky Sports` Revista De La Liga with our ex flop Marcelino..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 http://www.diariodemallorca.es/deportes/2013/01/29/cordoba-acuerda-newcastle-cesion-mallorquin-xisco-jimenez/823153.html Agreement reached between the two clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 More good news this week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 gerrin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Has there been a worse signing for anyone in recent years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 http://www.diariodemallorca.es/deportes/2013/01/29/cordoba-acuerda-newcastle-cesion-mallorquin-xisco-jimenez/823153.html Agreement reached between the two clubs. Says the player has agreed, and they hope that he'll travel there today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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