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I'd love to say I don't give a fuck about all this any more but I'd be lying. :undecided:

 

Still hoping it's sorted out ASAP.

I still give a fuck about the actual buy out but I certainly dont give a flying fuck about all the rumour and ITK shite that goes on, on her and in the media.

 

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I'd love to say I don't give a f*** about all this any more but I'd be lying. :undecided:

 

Still hoping it's sorted out ASAP.

I still give a f*** about the actual buy out but I certainly dont give a flying f*** about all the rumour and ITK s**** that goes on, on her and in the media.

 

 

In before the edit :pow:

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CHARLES SALE: Americans aim to scupper Barry Moat's Newcastle bid

 

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The marathon takeover saga at Newcastle took another twist on Friday night with a New York investment fund dealing direct with owner Mike Ashley in an attempt to fast-track the sale of the club.

 

It has been claimed their negotiations had reached the stage of a sale and purchase agreement with the Americans, having satisfied Ashley they have the necessary £100million funding to complete the deal.

Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley in the stands with Chairman Derek Llambias

 

 

But the situation — as ever during Ashley’s regime — is by no means clear as the Americans, represented by Manchester law firm Halliwells, are bypassing the official selling agents Seymour Pierce and conducting their business with Ashley’s London legal advisers Travers Smith.

   

 

 

The middle man in the deal is businessman Geoff Sheard, a former commercial director at Preston, who has kept in the background to avoid any publicity after an attempt to buy Sheffield Wednesday proved unsuccessful.

 

Stockbrokers Seymour Pierce don’t regard Sheard as a serious buyer, having not been satisfied with his proof of funding.

 

But a spokesperson for Ashley said last night that Sheard’s consortium were being treated as genuine buyers, yet had ground to make up on Newcastle businessman Barry Moat’s bid.

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1212895/CHARLES-SALE-Americans-aim-scupper-Barry-Moats-Newcastle-bid.html#ixzz0QqP8XO

 

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In a moment of weakness, looked up those numbers at Companies House nowt there.

 

It comes up with a company at the same address as Halliwells the lawyers representing the americans. What the fuck that means I have no idea

 

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Ok Sillius. Time to spill the beans :)

 

When can we expect your clients in charge?

 

He will get back to you 24h before the cron print the next takeover article.

If he could be straight, just say he gets the info from the newspaper, no problemo.

But saying he works at a law-firm, just doesn't make sense...

 

No hard feelings Sillius, just what i think :pow:

 

OK - predictions

 

Not the Chron

 

CS in the DM

 

:shifty: Well wot have we here then......

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In a moment of weakness, looked up those numbers at Companies House nowt there.

 

It comes up with a company at the same address as Halliwells the lawyers representing the americans. What the f*** that means I have no idea

 

 

So it does, looks like I might have been on the right lines after all!  :crazy2:

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CHARLES SALE: Americans aim to scupper Barry Moat's Newcastle bid

 

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The marathon takeover saga at Newcastle took another twist on Friday night with a New York investment fund dealing direct with owner Mike Ashley in an attempt to fast-track the sale of the club.

 

It has been claimed their negotiations had reached the stage of a sale and purchase agreement with the Americans, having satisfied Ashley they have the necessary £100million funding to complete the deal.

Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley in the stands with Chairman Derek Llambias

 

 

But the situation as ever during Ashleys regime is by no means clear as the Americans, represented by Manchester law firm Halliwells, are bypassing the official selling agents Seymour Pierce and conducting their business with Ashleys London legal advisers Travers Smith.

   

 

 

The middle man in the deal is businessman Geoff Sheard, a former commercial director at Preston, who has kept in the background to avoid any publicity after an attempt to buy Sheffield Wednesday proved unsuccessful.

 

Stockbrokers Seymour Pierce dont regard Sheard as a serious buyer, having not been satisfied with his proof of funding.

 

But a spokesperson for Ashley said last night that Sheards consortium were being treated as genuine buyers, yet had ground to make up on Newcastle businessman Barry Moats bid.

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1212895/CHARLES-SALE-Americans-aim-scupper-Barry-Moats-Newcastle-bid.html#ixzz0QqP8XO

 

 

If true, the bit about the Americans dealing direct with Ashley rather than through Seymour Pierce is interesting. Harris has said more than once that he thinks there should be a strong local presence in the ownership of the club. It's reasonable to surmise that he favours Moat.

 

Personally, I think local ownership is a mixed blessing. You often hear that the club should be owned by someone who understands the place of the club in the region, but it's not clear exactly what decisions would be different in the case of a local owner. If anything, we need owners that can resist the pressure and not get sucked into decisions that are driven more by hope and emotion than common sense. A big problem with Shepherd was that, as a fan, he couldn't resist meddling in footballing decisions and showed favouritism to Shearer as the fans' hero.

 

You could look at Ashley and say that he, as an outsider, hasn't done very well. My view is that his overall strategy was fine in the circumstances that the club were in, but his fatal blunder was appointing Keegan - a man whose motivation was suspect, who was unsuited to a long-term approach or working within a team, and whose chief asset was his standing with the fans. In that decision, Ashley was paying too much attention to local opinion, not too little.

 

Of course, some may disagree.

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In a moment of weakness, looked up those numbers at Companies House nowt there.

 

It comes up with a company at the same address as Halliwells the lawyers representing the americans. What the f*** that means I have no idea

 

 

So it does, looks like I might have been on the right lines after all!  :crazy2:

 

 

HALLCO 1707 LIMITED registered company name @ companies house.....  Halliwells... could this be a holding company for the funds to be deposited into? however can they not just be deposited into a lawyers account? also, this company was incorporated in June, seems a bit early

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CHARLES SALE: Americans aim to scupper Barry Moat's Newcastle bid

 

Last updated at 12:16 AM on 12th September 2009

 

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The marathon takeover saga at Newcastle took another twist on Friday night with a New York investment fund dealing direct with owner Mike Ashley in an attempt to fast-track the sale of the club.

 

It has been claimed their negotiations had reached the stage of a sale and purchase agreement with the Americans, having satisfied Ashley they have the necessary £100million funding to complete the deal.

Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley in the stands with Chairman Derek Llambias

 

 

But the situation — as ever during Ashley’s regime — is by no means clear as the Americans, represented by Manchester law firm Halliwells, are bypassing the official selling agents Seymour Pierce and conducting their business with Ashley’s London legal advisers Travers Smith.

   

 

 

The middle man in the deal is businessman Geoff Sheard, a former commercial director at Preston, who has kept in the background to avoid any publicity after an attempt to buy Sheffield Wednesday proved unsuccessful.

 

Stockbrokers Seymour Pierce don’t regard Sheard as a serious buyer, having not been satisfied with his proof of funding.

 

But a spokesperson for Ashley said last night that Sheard’s consortium were being treated as genuine buyers, yet had ground to make up on Newcastle businessman Barry Moat’s bid.

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1212895/CHARLES-SALE-Americans-aim-scupper-Barry-Moats-Newcastle-bid.html#ixzz0QqP8XO

 

 

If true, the bit about the Americans dealing direct with Ashley rather than through Seymour Pierce is interesting. Harris has said more than once that he thinks there should be a strong local presence in the ownership of the club. It's reasonable to surmise that he favours Moat.

 

Personally, I think local ownership is a mixed blessing. You often hear that the club should be owned by someone who understands the place of the club in the region, but it's not clear exactly what decisions would be different in the case of a local owner. If anything, we need owners that can resist the pressure and not get sucked into decisions that are driven more by hope and emotion than common sense. A big problem with Shepherd was that, as a fan, he couldn't resist meddling in footballing decisions and showed favouritism to Shearer as the fans' hero.

 

You could look at Ashley and say that he, as an outsider, hasn't done very well. My view is that his overall strategy was fine in the circumstances that the club were in, but his fatal blunder was appointing Keegan - a man whose motivation was suspect, who was unsuited to a long-term approach or working within a team, and whose chief asset was his standing with the fans. In that decision, Ashley was paying too much attention to local opinion, not too little.

 

Of course, some may disagree.

 

KEEGAN'S MOTIVATION, in coming back . .  Yes, that is something that has bugged me quite a lot.  I mean, what do you think he came back for?

 

Certainly, events have proved that it was NOT (what we all hoped it was for) to "finish off the job he started and win us the Premier League every year" . . . NO, I think it was something altogether "less noble" than that.

 

He certainly didn't stick around long when the going got tough, did he?

 

Because of THAT (though it was probably Ashley's actual fault) we are now relegated and are in the Second Division ('nothingness', as someone once called it).

 

Yes KEEGAN'S MOTIVES, are very, very, very, suspect  -  in MY opinion.

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CHARLES SALE: Americans aim to scupper Barry Moat's Newcastle bid

 

Last updated at 12:16 AM on 12th September 2009

 

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The marathon takeover saga at Newcastle took another twist on Friday night with a New York investment fund dealing direct with owner Mike Ashley in an attempt to fast-track the sale of the club.

 

It has been claimed their negotiations had reached the stage of a sale and purchase agreement with the Americans, having satisfied Ashley they have the necessary £100million funding to complete the deal.

Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley in the stands with Chairman Derek Llambias

 

 

But the situation as ever during Ashleys regime is by no means clear as the Americans, represented by Manchester law firm Halliwells, are bypassing the official selling agents Seymour Pierce and conducting their business with Ashleys London legal advisers Travers Smith.

   

 

 

The middle man in the deal is businessman Geoff Sheard, a former commercial director at Preston, who has kept in the background to avoid any publicity after an attempt to buy Sheffield Wednesday proved unsuccessful.

 

Stockbrokers Seymour Pierce dont regard Sheard as a serious buyer, having not been satisfied with his proof of funding.

 

But a spokesperson for Ashley said last night that Sheards consortium were being treated as genuine buyers, yet had ground to make up on Newcastle businessman Barry Moats bid.

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1212895/CHARLES-SALE-Americans-aim-scupper-Barry-Moats-Newcastle-bid.html#ixzz0QqP8XO

 

 

If true, the bit about the Americans dealing direct with Ashley rather than through Seymour Pierce is interesting. Harris has said more than once that he thinks there should be a strong local presence in the ownership of the club. It's reasonable to surmise that he favours Moat.

 

Personally, I think local ownership is a mixed blessing. You often hear that the club should be owned by someone who understands the place of the club in the region, but it's not clear exactly what decisions would be different in the case of a local owner. If anything, we need owners that can resist the pressure and not get sucked into decisions that are driven more by hope and emotion than common sense. A big problem with Shepherd was that, as a fan, he couldn't resist meddling in footballing decisions and showed favouritism to Shearer as the fans' hero.

 

You could look at Ashley and say that he, as an outsider, hasn't done very well. My view is that his overall strategy was fine in the circumstances that the club were in, but his fatal blunder was appointing Keegan - a man whose motivation was suspect, who was unsuited to a long-term approach or working within a team, and whose chief asset was his standing with the fans. In that decision, Ashley was paying too much attention to local opinion, not too little.

 

Of course, some may disagree.

 

KEEGAN'S MOTIVATION, in coming back . .  Yes, that is something that has bugged me quite a lot.  I mean, what do you think he came back for?

 

Certainly, events have proved that it was NOT (what we all hoped it was for) to "finish off the job he started and win us the Premier League every year" . . . NO, I think it was something altogether "less noble" than that.

 

He certainly didn't stick around long when the going got tough, did he?

 

Because of THAT (though it was probably Ashley's actual fault) we are now relegated and are in the Second Division ('nothingness', as someone once called it).

 

Yes KEEGAN'S MOTIVES, are very, very, very, suspect  -  in MY opinion.

 

Its KKs fault we are in the 2nd div?

 

Lame,

 

Not the fact that ashley would not invest money??

 

Thats why KK left, he could nto get Ashley to invest in any players.

 

Jesus wept.

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In a moment of weakness, looked up those numbers at Companies House nowt there.

 

It comes up with a company at the same address as Halliwells the lawyers representing the americans. What the f*** that means I have no idea

 

 

So it does, looks like I might have been on the right lines after all!  :crazy2:

 

 

 

HALLCO 1707 LIMITED registered company name @ companies house.....  Halliwells... could this be a holding company for the funds to be deposited into? however can they not just be deposited into a lawyers account? also, this company was incorporated in June, seems a bit early

 

 

Agreed, that's why I originally discounted it. Was looking for "the holy grail" of a newly set up holding company with a cheeky Newcastle related name.

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CHARLES SALE: Americans aim to scupper Barry Moat's Newcastle bid

 

Last updated at 12:16 AM on 12th September 2009

 

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The marathon takeover saga at Newcastle took another twist on Friday night with a New York investment fund dealing direct with owner Mike Ashley in an attempt to fast-track the sale of the club.

 

It has been claimed their negotiations had reached the stage of a sale and purchase agreement with the Americans, having satisfied Ashley they have the necessary £100million funding to complete the deal.

Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley in the stands with Chairman Derek Llambias

 

 

But the situation — as ever during Ashley’s regime — is by no means clear as the Americans, represented by Manchester law firm Halliwells, are bypassing the official selling agents Seymour Pierce and conducting their business with Ashley’s London legal advisers Travers Smith.

   

 

 

The middle man in the deal is businessman Geoff Sheard, a former commercial director at Preston, who has kept in the background to avoid any publicity after an attempt to buy Sheffield Wednesday proved unsuccessful.

 

Stockbrokers Seymour Pierce don’t regard Sheard as a serious buyer, having not been satisfied with his proof of funding.

 

But a spokesperson for Ashley said last night that Sheard’s consortium were being treated as genuine buyers, yet had ground to make up on Newcastle businessman Barry Moat’s bid.

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1212895/CHARLES-SALE-Americans-aim-scupper-Barry-Moats-Newcastle-bid.html#ixzz0QqP8XO

 

 

If true, the bit about the Americans dealing direct with Ashley rather than through Seymour Pierce is interesting. Harris has said more than once that he thinks there should be a strong local presence in the ownership of the club. It's reasonable to surmise that he favours Moat.

 

Personally, I think local ownership is a mixed blessing. You often hear that the club should be owned by someone who understands the place of the club in the region, but it's not clear exactly what decisions would be different in the case of a local owner. If anything, we need owners that can resist the pressure and not get sucked into decisions that are driven more by hope and emotion than common sense. A big problem with Shepherd was that, as a fan, he couldn't resist meddling in footballing decisions and showed favouritism to Shearer as the fans' hero.

 

You could look at Ashley and say that he, as an outsider, hasn't done very well. My view is that his overall strategy was fine in the circumstances that the club were in, but his fatal blunder was appointing Keegan - a man whose motivation was suspect, who was unsuited to a long-term approach or working within a team, and whose chief asset was his standing with the fans. In that decision, Ashley was paying too much attention to local opinion, not too little.

 

Of course, some may disagree.

 

KEEGAN'S MOTIVATION, in coming back . .  Yes, that is something that has bugged me quite a lot.  I mean, what do you think he came back for?

 

Certainly, events have proved that it was NOT (what we all hoped it was for) to "finish off the job he started and win us the Premier League every year" . . . NO, I think it was something altogether "less noble" than that.

 

He certainly didn't stick around long when the going got tough, did he?

 

Because of THAT (though it was probably Ashley's actual fault) we are now relegated and are in the Second Division ('nothingness', as someone once called it).

 

Yes KEEGAN'S MOTIVES, are very, very, very, suspect  -  in MY opinion.

 

Its KKs fault we are in the 2nd div?

 

Lame,

 

Not the fact that ashley would not invest money??

 

Thats why KK left, he could nto get Ashley to invest in any players.

 

Jesus wept.

 

Oh, poor diddums Keegan . . . I hate Ashley as much as the next man, but Keegan's major role (and motives) in our demise, should not be ignored.

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The marathon takeover saga at Newcastle took another twist on Friday night with a New York investment fund dealing direct with owner Mike Ashley in an attempt to fast-track the sale of the club.

 

It has been claimed their negotiations had reached the stage of a sale and purchase agreement with the Americans, having satisfied Ashley they have the necessary £100million funding to complete the deal.

Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley in the stands with Chairman Derek Llambias

 

 

But the situation — as ever during Ashley’s regime — is by no means clear as the Americans, represented by Manchester law firm Halliwells, are bypassing the official selling agents Seymour Pierce and conducting their business with Ashley’s London legal advisers Travers Smith.

   

 

 

The middle man in the deal is businessman Geoff Sheard, a former commercial director at Preston, who has kept in the background to avoid any publicity after an attempt to buy Sheffield Wednesday proved unsuccessful.

 

Stockbrokers Seymour Pierce don’t regard Sheard as a serious buyer, having not been satisfied with his proof of funding.

 

But a spokesperson for Ashley said last night that Sheard’s consortium were being treated as genuine buyers, yet had ground to make up on Newcastle businessman Barry Moat’s bid.

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1212895/CHARLES-SALE-Americans-aim-scupper-Barry-Moats-Newcastle-bid.html#ixzz0QqP8XO

 

 

If true, the bit about the Americans dealing direct with Ashley rather than through Seymour Pierce is interesting. Harris has said more than once that he thinks there should be a strong local presence in the ownership of the club. It's reasonable to surmise that he favours Moat.

 

Personally, I think local ownership is a mixed blessing. You often hear that the club should be owned by someone who understands the place of the club in the region, but it's not clear exactly what decisions would be different in the case of a local owner. If anything, we need owners that can resist the pressure and not get sucked into decisions that are driven more by hope and emotion than common sense. A big problem with Shepherd was that, as a fan, he couldn't resist meddling in footballing decisions and showed favouritism to Shearer as the fans' hero.

 

You could look at Ashley and say that he, as an outsider, hasn't done very well. My view is that his overall strategy was fine in the circumstances that the club were in, but his fatal blunder was appointing Keegan - a man whose motivation was suspect, who was unsuited to a long-term approach or working within a team, and whose chief asset was his standing with the fans. In that decision, Ashley was paying too much attention to local opinion, not too little.

 

Of course, some may disagree.

 

KEEGAN'S MOTIVATION, in coming back . .  Yes, that is something that has bugged me quite a lot.  I mean, what do you think he came back for?

 

Certainly, events have proved that it was NOT (what we all hoped it was for) to "finish off the job he started and win us the Premier League every year" . . . NO, I think it was something altogether "less noble" than that.

 

He certainly didn't stick around long when the going got tough, did he?

 

Because of THAT (though it was probably Ashley's actual fault) we are now relegated and are in the Second Division ('nothingness', as someone once called it).

 

Yes KEEGAN'S MOTIVES, are very, very, very, suspect  -  in MY opinion.

 

Its KKs fault we are in the 2nd div?

 

Lame,

 

Not the fact that ashley would not invest money??

 

Thats why KK left, he could nto get Ashley to invest in any players.

 

Jesus wept.

 

Embarrassing isn't it? Some people still fail to understand why Keegan left.  :facepalm:

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Embarrassing isn't it? Some people still fail to understand why Keegan left.  :facepalm:

 

Or was he sacked? If he left by his own will he wouldn't be asking for compensation, right?

 

Not just the wages but how much KK has cost the club just in compensations for terminating his contracts

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CHARLES SALE: Americans aim to scupper Barry Moat's Newcastle bid

 

Last updated at 12:16 AM on 12th September 2009

 

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The marathon takeover saga at Newcastle took another twist on Friday night with a New York investment fund dealing direct with owner Mike Ashley in an attempt to fast-track the sale of the club.

 

It has been claimed their negotiations had reached the stage of a sale and purchase agreement with the Americans, having satisfied Ashley they have the necessary £100million funding to complete the deal.

Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley in the stands with Chairman Derek Llambias

 

 

But the situation — as ever during Ashley’s regime — is by no means clear as the Americans, represented by Manchester law firm Halliwells, are bypassing the official selling agents Seymour Pierce and conducting their business with Ashley’s London legal advisers Travers Smith.

   

 

 

The middle man in the deal is businessman Geoff Sheard, a former commercial director at Preston, who has kept in the background to avoid any publicity after an attempt to buy Sheffield Wednesday proved unsuccessful.

 

Stockbrokers Seymour Pierce don’t regard Sheard as a serious buyer, having not been satisfied with his proof of funding.

 

But a spokesperson for Ashley said last night that Sheard’s consortium were being treated as genuine buyers, yet had ground to make up on Newcastle businessman Barry Moat’s bid.

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1212895/CHARLES-SALE-Americans-aim-scupper-Barry-Moats-Newcastle-bid.html#ixzz0QqP8XO

 

 

If true, the bit about the Americans dealing direct with Ashley rather than through Seymour Pierce is interesting. Harris has said more than once that he thinks there should be a strong local presence in the ownership of the club. It's reasonable to surmise that he favours Moat.

 

Personally, I think local ownership is a mixed blessing. You often hear that the club should be owned by someone who understands the place of the club in the region, but it's not clear exactly what decisions would be different in the case of a local owner. If anything, we need owners that can resist the pressure and not get sucked into decisions that are driven more by hope and emotion than common sense. A big problem with Shepherd was that, as a fan, he couldn't resist meddling in footballing decisions and showed favouritism to Shearer as the fans' hero.

 

You could look at Ashley and say that he, as an outsider, hasn't done very well. My view is that his overall strategy was fine in the circumstances that the club were in, but his fatal blunder was appointing Keegan - a man whose motivation was suspect, who was unsuited to a long-term approach or working within a team, and whose chief asset was his standing with the fans. In that decision, Ashley was paying too much attention to local opinion, not too little.

 

Of course, some may disagree.

 

KEEGAN'S MOTIVATION, in coming back . .  Yes, that is something that has bugged me quite a lot.  I mean, what do you think he came back for?

 

Certainly, events have proved that it was NOT (what we all hoped it was for) to "finish off the job he started and win us the Premier League every year" . . . NO, I think it was something altogether "less noble" than that.

 

He certainly didn't stick around long when the going got tough, did he?

 

Because of THAT (though it was probably Ashley's actual fault) we are now relegated and are in the Second Division ('nothingness', as someone once called it).

 

Yes KEEGAN'S MOTIVES, are very, very, very, suspect  -  in MY opinion.

 

Its KKs fault we are in the 2nd div?

 

Lame,

 

Not the fact that ashley would not invest money??

 

Thats why KK left, he could nto get Ashley to invest in any players.

 

Jesus wept.

 

Embarrassing isn't it? Some people still fail to understand why Keegan left.  :facepalm:

 

EVERYONE knows why he left.

 

That was just the 'last chapter' (the 'last page', even) in the story.

 

His reasons for coming back and his lack of regard for us and the club by his leaving So SOON (so bl**dy soon) should not be disregarded so totally.

 

He was, and is, complicit (strongly) in our demise, whether you like it or not.

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Isent there a keegan thread you can take this?

 

It was brought up on here, so it has been discussed on here as it is relevant to the sale of the club ("non-sale") now that we are a fully-fledged "nothingness" club, for which Keegan is partially responsible.

 

If no one wants to talk about Keegans role here, I am happy to stop now.

 

Nothing we say will change anything anyway. Nothing is happening with the sale anyway, either.

 

Where are my Leonard Cohen records?? (don't start!)

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