Yorkie Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Why's it so much easier for the media to criticise a partnership than assert that we've not had a striker capable of showing up when it matters since Lineker - Shearer's '96 an exception? Lineker? Yes, Lineker. whats that about? I've no clue what you're talking about, dude. Since Lineker (see '86 and '90) we've had nobody (bar Shearer's one off) who looked like scoring goals when it mattered in the tournaments. The press for some reason have continually ignored this fact, mainly due to the fact that most of them are in Rooney and Owen's pockets. I think MW thought the dash meant Lineker-Shearer (as in Lineker and Shearer, as in a strike partnership). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Nah, that would've been crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Why's it so much easier for the media to criticise a partnership than assert that we've not had a striker capable of showing up when it matters since Lineker - Shearer's '96 an exception? Lineker? Yes, Lineker. whats that about? I've no clue what you're talking about, dude. Since Lineker (see '86 and '90) we've had nobody (bar Shearer's one off) who looked like scoring goals when it mattered in the tournaments. The press for some reason have continually ignored this fact, mainly due to the fact that most of them are in Rooney and Owen's pockets. I think it was people getting confused, thinking you meant Lineker and Shearer TOGETHER during '96, because I read it like that at first before reading again EDIT: Already explained, too slow me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Nah, that would've been crap. Yeah dunno where the goals would've come from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 How on earth these jokers are getting a chance and Osman hasn't is beyond me. It's like manager after manager, regardless of their intelligence, pick random players based on them being in the media or having a "story". Lallana - newly promoted. Sterling - suddenly played a couple of games. Whereas players like Osman who've shown good technical ability in the Premier League for a good few years now are completely ignored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 How on earth these jokers are getting a chance and Osman hasn't is beyond me. It's like manager after manager, regardless of their intelligence, pick random players based on them being in the media or having a "story". Lallana - newly promoted. Sterling - suddenly played a couple of games. Whereas players like Osman who've shown good technical ability in the Premier League for a good few years now are completely ignored. One of my favourite non-NUFC players to watch, not capped at any level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Osman is a great shout and never gets the call.... even Nolan should be considered ahead of some the current squad imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 According to his wiki he can play for Turkey/Cyprus (Osman), odd that he's never been picked for them either. Probably bullshit like. He'd probably stand more of a chance if he didn't have the look of a heavy set in AIDS sufferer mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Osman really stands out as a midfielder willing to gamble with attacking runs off the ball. Good instincts and good work rate too as far as I can see, and pretty tidy on the ball to boot (a secondary consideration in the England set-up ). Decent shout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 How on earth these jokers are getting a chance and Osman hasn't is beyond me. It's like manager after manager, regardless of their intelligence, pick random players based on them being in the media or having a "story". Lallana - newly promoted. Sterling - suddenly played a couple of games. Whereas players like Osman who've shown good technical ability in the Premier League for a good few years now are completely ignored. Osman is good, but he's an aging, fairly unremarkable player who won't push England forward or be part of any tournament past 2014. It would be fantastic for his career if he received the call-up, as he deserves it, but in my view it would really be somewhat pointless. He'll never be an important player for your national team. In many ways he suffered from late development. He didnt really make a name for himself until he was 24-26, and by this time no one cares about you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Looks like Woy is doing his best to try and get into Liverpool's good books/Christmas Card list again. Sterling ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuneaton Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 i suppose it would be nice for them if he got a few caps, had a few decent games and then some muppet comes along with £35million for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I got no problem with Sterling. Think he looks to be an exiting player. Downing, Henderson etc can I agree with, they doesn´t belong in international football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 As mentioned, Dyer/Sinclair deserve the call up more than Sterling. In fact there are probably a fair few players that dont get tossed off by the rags who deserve to be in the England set up over Sterling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I got no problem with Sterling. Think he looks to be an exiting player. Downing, Henderson etc can I agree with, they doesn´t belong in international football. There are plenty of young, exciting players around. Many of them have more than ONE Premier Leauge start. I think Nathan Dyer's form in the last year or two should have earnt him the call way ahead of Sterling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I can understand why people think Dyer should be ahead of Sterling considering he had a decent season last year and has started brightly this year. However for me he is just a younger SWP, nothing else. Sterling however is only 17 and has a lot of time to improve his game. I honestly hope he carries on being in the first team for Liverpool ahead of Downing. He looks an exciting prospect and i for one happy to have him in the squad ahead of the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Osman has spent his entire career at a mid-table club and been ignored by how many England managers now? Hmm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Sad indictment of English football if Leon Osman should be a regular international, epitome of the decent but unspectacular footballer. Much more interesting footballers out there to pick from, in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Sad indictment of English football if Leon Osman should be a regular international, epitome of the decent but unspectacular footballer. Much more interesting footballers out there to pick from, in my opinion. There isn't imo. He's nothing too special but the English players coming through in the last/next 5 years aren't going to achieve anything with England. The word "bland" always spring to mind when thinking about the current/recent England squad. Mainly boring players I couldn't care less about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 How has Sinclair not gotten a call-up yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 How has Sinclair not gotten a call-up yet? Don't think he's all that great really. Would definitely go for Dyer over Sinclair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 The word "bland" always spring to mind when thinking about the current/recent England squad. Mainly boring players I couldn't care less about. Absolutely. No flair/excitement. The rigid systems England don't help either, nor do they coax the best of what little talent there has been lately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 We need BIGI bossing the centre midfield, dictating the play. I wouldn't swap Jake Livermore if given the opportunity, not a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Sad indictment of English football if Leon Osman should be a regular international, epitome of the decent but unspectacular footballer. Much more interesting footballers out there to pick from, in my opinion. Absolutely nothing wrong with giving him a try at that level imo. He's an industrious player who has stood out for Everton more often than not. He's no clogger either, and his technique is pretty good for an Englishman (stereotype alert). The real indictment of English football is that Stevie Gerraaahd YNWA is still fucking captaining the side despite being injury ridden and completely finished for 2 years now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Thing is handing out caps to somebody like Osman is just a bit of a token gesture, even if over the course of his career you would say he definitely warrants some. He's 31 and while he is an OK enough player he is not going to make a difference to an England side. I have no problem with the attitude of plumping on the potential of younger players who could become something in the future over rewarding the efforts of older decent players who are not going to offer anything long term. Tough for people like Osman to take, but pragmatically it is a better idea. Not convinced by Sterling though. Thought despite the way everybody was going on about him last week that Jenkinson (who is almost universally derided) dealt with him fairly comfortably. Could quite easily go the way of the numerous WINGWIZARDZ we've had come through the system over the years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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