The College Dropout Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Mascherano is usually a DM for Argentina playing alongside Gago and Di Maria with Messi having a free role behind Higuain and Aguero. Shame their back 4 is terrible. haven't seen them play for ages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Is Gerrard really the best holding midfielder you've got? Why play with a holding midfielder? It's pointless in international football in 2014. Gerrard's the best option to sit deep and concentrate on playing the better pass. Since when did Alonso, Mascherano and Busquets become obsolete in international football? England doesn't have too many options in that particular position, I'll give you that, but I kind of like Huddlestone >_> Only Mascherano is a pure DM. Busquets and Alonso are passers first and foremost - like Gerrard. Gerrard lacks their positional sense however. What do you mean by a passer? Alonso and Busquets are two very different type of midfielders. Busquets is a player that makes it tick, but he's nowhere near a sitting playmaker a la Alonso or Gerrard at this stage. I would disagree. While he doesn't switch play or attempt to launch a counter with a long diagonal he's definitely a passer first and foremost. Playmaker? Not really, he plays with Xavi, Iniesta and Fabregas. What puts Busquets over the top is his technique and speed of passing. 3 touches max. and he's turned and passed it forward, perfectly weighted. Defensively, Javi Martinez (who is probably a better all-round player) and even Mascherano are better due to being more mobile but Busquets is a smoother passer. Oh I agree with you with what you said. I was just wondering if you were putting both of them in the same bracket. By saying he's a player that makes it tick I meant that he plays a fast football and is the heart of that team. For me Busquets is easily the best DM around, everything he does he does well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Mascherano is usually a DM for Argentina playing alongside Gago and Di Maria with Messi having a free role behind Higuain and Aguero. Shame their back 4 is terrible. Their back four is absolute horse-shit It's a really unbalanced team, but any team with a striking force like that can win a World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Ashley Cole to be left out of the World Cup squad. Good decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 It would be if he wasn't the best English LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Daft decision. England's most reliable player for the last bloody ages Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Kind of just thought he would make it by default. Guessing that means Shaw is in, big day for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 I'd be controversial and take Cole and Shaw leaving Baines out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Thought Cole had done well in recent games for Chelsea when I saw them, had expected him to sneak in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 We're not gonna win the World Cup and Cole isn't gonna be in the squad in future tournaments so good idea to plan for the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 On MOTD extra they were trotting out the usual guff about experience and how would the old guard feel if snubbed. f*** em, blood a new generation at a word cup in Brazil with a sprinkling of older heads and reap the rewards in a couple of tournaments time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 It would be if he wasn't the best English LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Good decision. England aren't winning shit this year. Need to give the next generation tournament experience. Baines is, at this stage in their careers, better than Cole despite not having a vintage season himself. Take Shaw too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Barkley was "rested" today which is probably a good sign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 On MOTD extra they were trotting out the usual guff about experience and how would the old guard feel if snubbed. f*** em, blood a new generation at a word cup in Brazil with a sprinkling of older heads and reap the rewards in a couple of tournaments time. Yeah, basically, it's time to move on. Although besides Gerrard, Cole is probably the only one worthy of a spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Problem is Baines is not very good defensively as he's already shown at International level against the likes of Chile letting Sanchez move off the back of him. I still would take him mind obviously, but Cole is the only one who is proven at International level( massive difference between Premier League teams and the best International teams) and can be trusted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 I'd be controversial and take Cole and Shaw leaving Baines out. Exactly what I would do. He's never let England down and been our best player over the last ten years. Don't really see what Baines brings over Cole other than set pieces which I doubt he'd take anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Rags now reporting Barkley has made the 23 man squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Shame, been England's most consistent performer the last decade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 We're not gonna win the World Cup and Cole isn't gonna be in the squad in future tournaments so good idea to plan for the future. Using the biggest stage in football to plan for the future. Get real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Shame, been England's most consistent performer the last decade. Easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 I really like a lot of our younger players but this is very unlike Hodgson. Sterling, Lallana, Barkley, Shaw, Sterling and Henderson - whilst all fantastic this season can't have a dozen caps between them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 We're not gonna win the World Cup and Cole isn't gonna be in the squad in future tournaments so good idea to plan for the future. Using the biggest stage in football to plan for the future. Get real. We have no chance of winning this. We might have a chance in 2016. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 We're not gonna win the World Cup and Cole isn't gonna be in the squad in future tournaments so good idea to plan for the future. Using the biggest stage in football to plan for the future. Get real. Got to be better than using it to be moderately indifferent then coming home early despite playing your strongest 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Baines probably won't be there in 2016 either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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