Hanshithispantz Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Barkley should probably play ahead of Wilshere. Like Ronny said, it's pointless playing him and Gerrard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Why is it pointless playing Gerrard and Wilshere? They're completely different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Why is it pointless playing Gerrard and Wilshere? They're completely different. Not enough goalscoring fret maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Both are better as deep lying play-makers, or at least we have players better suited to playing in other areas of midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Wilshire isn't IMO. He's very dynamic. I wouldn't call him a deep lying player at all tbh Neither would I, he's a forward-looking player if anything, carries the ball forward brilliantly and can play in tight spaces very well. If you think Barclay or Sterling will be more dangerous then fair enough, but it's not because Wilshere is better deep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Most deep lying playmakers are forward thinking, in-fact it's sort of mandatory I cannot see the purpose of playing him anywhere else on the pitch as we have players better suited, Barclay and Sterling being 2 of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Sterling is more exciting but I'm not sure you can say he's more effective yet. Barclay might be if he's having one of his top games. Anyway, biggest issue with Wilshere is fitness obviously, the other two are playing very well too. I love watching Wilshere but not sure I would pick him at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Wilshere can be quite a handy box-to-box player and is one of the more intelligent players we've got when it comes to knowing when to slow the game down and when to speed up. I really don't think Barkley is quite ready for the step up in one of the most important parts of the pitch, he should be eased in to the competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Barclay is a bit of a card like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I agree but not most of them have the ability that wilshire does is the final third. He's def an advanced player. From Arsenal's official twitter account. Arsène says: "His best position is as a deep-lying midfielder, where he can be a distributor. He has a good burst and vision" #AskArsene I wouldn't say he's def an advanced player, he can play across the midfield and it's always going to be his job to get forward but I'd definitely prefer us with someone else behind the strikers and on the wings, and I don't really want us playing both Gerrard and Wilshire in the centre either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Defensively, I think we look quite vulnerable as a unit but going forwards it looks much more dynamic. I'm looking forward to seeing what Hodgson does in respect of formations. Hope it's something interesting like 4-3-3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosden Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 This made me hate him, after he was given no shit from the corner. Petty I know http://i.imgur.com/OpxoDFA.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Both are better as deep lying play-makers, or at least we have players better suited to playing in other areas of midfield. Can't ever remember Wilshere playing that role at all. He's much better driving forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 He played there earlier in the season against us, although I don't think he was that great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Barclay is a bit of a card like. That could have been great if you worded it better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 He played there earlier in the season against us, although I don't think he was that great. Flamini played deepest for them that day didn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Really like the squad but would have put Carroll in as a battering ram for emergencies. Looking forward to see how we set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Really like the squad but would have put Carroll in as a battering ram for emergencies. Looking forward to see how we set up. I think I would too. I also hadn't realised how good Jermaine Defoe's England record was. Appreciate he's be a step back though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I want to see Barkley because he's the type of player that I love to see come on the scene. Raw, doesn't give a shit, wants to win, wants to take people on, excites the crowd. You won't get any of that with Wilshere or Gerrard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Really like the squad but would have put Carroll in as a battering ram for emergencies. Looking forward to see how we set up. Carroll v Lugano would be absolute shenanigans at set-pieces like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 The other two in the group have nobody capable of handling him either, should it come to that. Appreciate that's a fairly simplistic way of looking at it like! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 He played there earlier in the season against us, although I don't think he was that great. Flamini played deepest for them that day didn't he? Probably, Rosicky was in CAM though. I don't literally mean Wilshere sits in the centre circle spraying balls about, Gerrard doesn't do that either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I want to see Barkley because he's the type of player that I love to see come on the scene. Raw, doesn't give a s***, wants to win, wants to take people on, excites the crowd. You won't get any of that with Wilshere or Gerrard. Wilshere's a pretty progressive player, like, he's happy to take the game to the opposition. Also has the added bonus of experience in top level games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I like Wilshere, I just want to see a player that's raw running at people. I love that about tournaments, seeing players like Gazza, Owen, Rooney at their early stages just not giving a fuck and going for it. I'm not saying he's on that level, I'm just saying that he's got that attitude about him that Gazza kept but Owen and Rooney lost. I thought it would have ended up being Carroll, but nevermind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Rooney was a different player then, just fearless and running past people for fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts