Hughesy Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Quite a few of Krul's kicks have led to chances for other teams in previous games. I've commented on it before. Hart's miskicks didn't. Hart was trying to drill low planing kicks out to wingers in space for a counter attack. Krul passed the ball to Tevez just outside our area. Completely and utterly different situations. As for specific Krul mistakes - off the top of my head (without having had the chance to look at them again) Ithink he's been sloppy on the following goals: Arsenal og in League Cup West Ham goal West Brom 2nd goal Sunderland goal Chelsea League Cup 1st Man City yesterday That is obviously not mentioning errors he has made that could have lead to goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 With hindsight - West Ham one is a bit harsh. Still think he should have done better on it though. To be honest - this is all getting a bit ridiculous. Quite simply I don't think Krul has played that well for us and I think at the moment Harper would be better. I think Krul will become a very good goalie, but at the moment I would favour Harper's experience over Krul's youth. It's my opinion (shared by a few others), it isn't a kneejerk reaction and really isn't that unreasonable a suggestion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 The time to drop him is if he does that again. I think he'll learn from it though, it's gone now, I reckon he'll have a good game tomorrow. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 If we dropped Carroll when he wasn't at his best last season he would probably be rotting in the reserves now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 All boils down to opinion. In mine; we wouldn't have conceded 3 goals with Harper there. http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,73223.msg2680883.html#msg2680883 Nobody said he was. He's just more reliable than Krul. As I said a few pages back, we have 2 keepers the wrong side of average. http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,73223.msg2680883.html#msg2680883 Are you completely dense? I've been saying the same thing since August. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 If we dropped Carroll when he wasn't at his best last season he would probably be rotting in the reserves now. You can't compare the mistakes of a striker and keeper, man. A striker can miss 4 or 5 sitters and still be considered to have had a good game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 The point was about development and if there isn't much between our keepers we should go with the one who will get better, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Krul is the future and Harper is the past so stick with the kid I think that is pretty much what it boils down to at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 The point was about development and if there isn't much between our keepers we should go with the one who will get better, imo. This for me. I'm not ridiculing Ronaldo. Hughesy, or anyone else's opinion. I can see where they're coming from completely. This is all down to opinion. They'd favour the experience right now. Where others of us favour giving the youth a chance to settle and come good. There's pros and cons for both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I wonder if Krul felt under more pressure after being told the shirt was his to lose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 The time to drop him is if he does that again. I think he'll learn from it though, it's gone now, I reckon he'll have a good game tomorrow. exactly - keepers don't play well if they think they're going to be judged on every performance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 We can score goals against the best teams so therefore a goal conceded due to a Krul mistake may make the difference between 11th and 12th come the end of the season and that isn't going to be a big deal. Would prefer Krul was out there getting games in a non life or death environment (i.e this season) and learning than playing Harper where we would not really be making any progress and we'd end up having to spend millions on a new keeper as if we aren't going to accept Krul is going to make mistakes then we aren't going to know if he can save the club money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 What. A. Save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 well that made up for sundays cock up i'd say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 If Harper was playing we'd be winning this match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 If Harper was playing we'd be winning this match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 If Harper was playing we'd be winning this match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 We certainly wouldn't have conceded 2 if Harper was playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Wasn't Krul's fault for either goal. Good performance from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Number 9 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 That save's going in the wank bank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Wasn't Krul's fault for either goal. Good performance from him. Majorty of keepers will be very disappointed with letting in Bales goal. From that angle the keeper has to be favourite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 He could have done a bit better, perhaps, but not his 'fault' as such. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Wasn't Krul's fault for either goal. Good performance from him. Majorty of keepers will be very disappointed with letting in Bales goal. From that angle the keeper has to be favourite. He will be but Bale took it perfectly to be fair to him. he did good today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Not the first Bale has scored like that either, against a lot more established keepers too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Wasn't Krul's fault for either goal. Good performance from him. Majorty of keepers will be very disappointed with letting in Bales goal. From that angle the keeper has to be favourite. The keeper normally is favourite but the shot was pretty much perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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