Wullie Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Carroll's had nothing to do with how well Barton has been playing man. If anything, Barton's passing and crossing has made Carroll look good. Fuck off man. Your crossing's only as good as the bloke who can rise a foot above the closest defender and head it in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Carroll's had nothing to do with how well Barton has been playing man. If anything, Barton's passing and crossing has made Carroll look good. It works both ways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Nah like. Andy Carrolls ungodly world class footballing skills have been transferring to the whole team via osmosis. Were nowt other than second division cloggers without the messiah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Carroll's had nothing to do with how well Barton has been playing man. If anything, Barton's passing and crossing has made Carroll look good. It works both ways. and it's more the other way. Barton put some floating far post crosses in against fulham, and a simialr style of freekick into the box too. with a player like andy carroll, who is unplayable in the air, to attack those crosses, they're made to look good. With Best, Shola and Ranger in the box they were shown up as being completely ineffective, as they would be with the majority of strikers. Carroll and Barton worked up a fantastic relationship here, but now it's time for Barton to change his methods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Urgh! Grim news if true. Sinking ship and all that. Next 3/4 performances will be an indication of how focused he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Completely understand with those reasons, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 ...but, but, he loves it here. He wants to finish his career with us, he said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 From yesterdays Chron: "I owe a lot still to the fans at this club. "I owe a lot to the players in there Doesn't owe the club or the staff @ NUFC. SPOT f***ing ON IMO!!!! http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/02/02/joey-barton-puts-newcastle-before-england-72703-28100012/#ixzz1CveCjtzq Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Oh Well i was misinformed :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Oh Well i was misinformed :/ Wonder if you have been misinformed about anything else this week? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Why does people believe this shit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Oh Well i was misinformed :/ Wonder if you have been misinformed about anything else this week? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Dunno if it's true but I'd be doing exactly the same in his position. Where's the ambition? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Not good signs that the team spirit is going to remain intact after the Carroll sale. Nolan happy to lose a key player to another club, Barton stalling on signing a contract, Enrique making remarks on Carroll's salary. Sounds a lot like our last relegation season when too many players had one eye on the exit door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Not good signs that the team spirit is going to remain intact after the Carroll sale. Nolan happy to lose a key player to another club, Barton stalling on signing a contract, Enrique making remarks on Carroll's salary. Sounds a lot like our last relegation season when too many players had one eye on the exit door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Why does people believe this shit? people believe in the shit that furthers their own arguments, and cut out the rest. This is why most aren't cut out for the scientific fields (and even some scientists aren't). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 How come it's always the "loyal brits" pulling this bullshit. Enrique was so upbeat about things despite the sale, in comparison. Carroll shamelessly bails out with the smallest encouragement, Nolan pouring his heart out for his hometown club and pushing our best player there like he's a fan on the street and now Barton is looking for excuses too. I'm just praying the team manages to stay up somehow, and if by some miracle there is a committment to build the squad up wwith the big fee, then get rid of these idiots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 He's looking for excuses? Because Tall Striker said he's apparently not signing the deal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Dunno if it's true but I'd be doing exactly the same in his position. Where's the ambition? I'd say the club was lacking ambition if we hadn't accepted the deal, limiting ourselves to a stupidly overhyped, glorified battering ram of a striker who, if anything limited our style of play. We can get players a on a different level to AC with that cash. Seriously what is with the clamour for Carroll on here, he's not that good and never will be, he wasn't even the best player in our squad. What tools apart from heading does he really have to make it as a great player? His skill is average, as is his pace, intelligence and finishing. People need to give their heads a shake saying he was going to be a PL great (not specifically you Dave), after scoring 11 goals in one of the worst standard seasons in the league's history, a season where Leon Best has scored a hattrick and a newly promoted club has hit 5+ goals in 3 matches and lets not forget Kevin Nolan already has 10 goals as well. We now have a great chance to build a good footballing side with some higher level players, with this money we can get 6/7 Ben Afra/Tiote like signings ffs, If Andy Carroll had stayed we'd have been confined to alot of boring route 1 stuff and i wouldn't want a team to be built around him for long as he can only take you to a certain level as aplayer. Onwards and upwards i say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 So a team is lacking ambition when they don't sell their best players? And there's no chance that money will be reinvested properly. We'll certainly not get a better striker than Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Dunno if it's true but I'd be doing exactly the same in his position. Where's the ambition? I'd say the club was lacking ambition if we hadn't accepted the deal, limiting ourselves to a stupidly overhyped, glorified battering ram of a striker who, if anything limited our style of play. We can get players a on a different level to AC with that cash. Seriously what is with the clamour for Carroll on here, he's not that good and never will be, he wasn't even the best player in our squad. What tools apart from heading does he really have to make it as a great player? His skill is average, as is his pace, intelligence and finishing. People need to give their heads a shake saying he was going to be a PL great (not specifically you Dave), after scoring 11 goals in one of the worst standard seasons in the league's history, a season where Leon Best has scored a hattrick and a newly promoted club has hit 5+ goals in 3 matches and lets not forget Kevin Nolan already has 10 goals as well. We now have a great chance to build a good footballing side with some higher level players, with this money we can get 6/7 Ben Afra/Tiote like signings ffs, If Andy Carroll had stayed we'd have been confined to alot of boring route 1 stuff and i wouldn't want a team to be built around him for long as he can only take you to a certain level as aplayer. Onwards and upwards i say. An excellent rant, and I hope you're right. At the end of the day, we can all have our opinions about whether or not Ashley could have taken the £35 million, but it's not exactly a crazy decision, is it? We can disagree, but there's no need to condemn. If we use the money wisely, we could well end up with a better team than if Carroll had stayed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 So a team is lacking ambition when they don't sell their best players? And there's no chance that money will be reinvested properly. We'll certainly not get a better striker than Carroll. as odd an opening to the rant as it was its worth reading as it raises some decent points of coarse its built on the assumption of ashley reinvesting the cash which is a large assumption Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Ridiculous that people are believing Tall Striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 So a team is lacking ambition when they don't sell their best players? And there's no chance that money will be reinvested properly. We'll certainly not get a better striker than Carroll. A team should sell one of their current best players to open the door for superior ones to come in, surely? AC as aplayer was going to limit our ambitions in the future because he's an average striker who is only suited to a one dimensional style of play. The timing of the sale was shocking to but the opportunity was too big to miss. Te second point is moot tbh but recent windows suggest the club can do smart business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 So a team is lacking ambition when they don't sell their best players? And there's no chance that money will be reinvested properly. We'll certainly not get a better striker than Carroll. A team should sell one of their current best players to open the door for superior ones to come in, surely? AC as aplayer was going to limit our ambitions in the future because he's an average striker who is only suited to a one dimensional style of play. The timing of the sale was shocking to but the opportunity was too big to miss. Te second point is moot tbh but recent windows suggest the club can do smart business. Sorry but Carroll didn't limit our play, rather made the very best of what limited play we are capable off. If we're being truthful, bar Ben Arfa who's not played 3 full games this season, Barton's been the only bit of creativity in our midfield and Carroll made the most of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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