Danny Guthrie

[Ronaldo]

No, he wasn't.

[Pilko]

He pretended to be injured against WBA, that's what angered folk.

 

Wasn't he actually out injured for a few weeks afterwards though?

 

He was on the bench for the following fixture.

[Interpolic]

Another one I was happy to see go but am eating humble pie, no wonder I'm so fat.

 

I've always liked him.

[TRon]

I think people were way too harsh on Guthrie after the WBA game last season and completely ignored how he had done for us before that. His first season with us he had some very good games and showed a fair bit of ability I thought, but like everyone else, his form suffered as that shambolic season came to its end. In the championship I thought he was one of our better players as well, he was absolutely running the show for us in the second half of the season and dominating in midfield, chipping in with a fair few assists. Last season he had a bad game against WBA, but then followed it with some good ones (Spurs at home (I think?) and Man Utd at home he was good). And this season, he's been called on without having hardly any match fitness and performed admirably in two tough games. Hope he keeps it up, im a fan and he can be a very useful backup to Tiote and Cabaye.

 

I still think he's at his best when he's got a midfield "boss" next to him. I think big characters like Cabaye and Tiote give Danny the confidence to express himself without worrying about having to be the playmaker.

[John P]

Fair enough, I had it in my head that he was actually injured for the next few games. Has shown a good attitude this season when called upon anyway.

[John P]

I think people were way too harsh on Guthrie after the WBA game last season and completely ignored how he had done for us before that. His first season with us he had some very good games and showed a fair bit of ability I thought, but like everyone else, his form suffered as that shambolic season came to its end. In the championship I thought he was one of our better players as well, he was absolutely running the show for us in the second half of the season and dominating in midfield, chipping in with a fair few assists. Last season he had a bad game against WBA, but then followed it with some good ones (Spurs at home (I think?) and Man Utd at home he was good). And this season, he's been called on without having hardly any match fitness and performed admirably in two tough games. Hope he keeps it up, im a fan and he can be a very useful backup to Tiote and Cabaye.

 

I still think he's at his best when he's got a midfield "boss" next to him. I think big characters like Cabaye and Tiote give Danny the confidence to express himself without worrying about having to be the playmaker.

 

Yep, has probably played a part in his performances this season. Although he was still the one on Saturday who was trying to take control of the midfield for us after Cabaye had gone off.

[Ronaldo]

Is he better than Cabaye? Debatable.

[JH]

How do we know he 'pretended' to be injured btw?

[littlelunchbox]

I think people were way too harsh on Guthrie after the WBA game last season and completely ignored how he had done for us before that. His first season with us he had some very good games and showed a fair bit of ability I thought, but like everyone else, his form suffered as that shambolic season came to its end. In the championship I thought he was one of our better players as well, he was absolutely running the show for us in the second half of the season and dominating in midfield, chipping in with a fair few assists. Last season he had a bad game against WBA, but then followed it with some good ones (Spurs at home (I think?) and Man Utd at home he was good). And this season, he's been called on without having hardly any match fitness and performed admirably in two tough games. Hope he keeps it up, im a fan and he can be a very useful backup to Tiote and Cabaye.

 

I still think he's at his best when he's got a midfield "boss" next to him. I think big characters like Cabaye and Tiote give Danny the confidence to express himself without worrying about having to be the playmaker.

 

i think a midfield of three,  cabaye tiote and guthrie would be very good.  or a midfield of five with them three in the middle.  full of mad energy and technique.  the only thing thats really missing from this combination of the three is possible someone that can really dribble past players, but we got our wingers and hatem, to do that stuff.

[John P]

I think people were way too harsh on Guthrie after the WBA game last season and completely ignored how he had done for us before that. His first season with us he had some very good games and showed a fair bit of ability I thought, but like everyone else, his form suffered as that shambolic season came to its end. In the championship I thought he was one of our better players as well, he was absolutely running the show for us in the second half of the season and dominating in midfield, chipping in with a fair few assists. Last season he had a bad game against WBA, but then followed it with some good ones (Spurs at home (I think?) and Man Utd at home he was good). And this season, he's been called on without having hardly any match fitness and performed admirably in two tough games. Hope he keeps it up, im a fan and he can be a very useful backup to Tiote and Cabaye.

 

I still think he's at his best when he's got a midfield "boss" next to him. I think big characters like Cabaye and Tiote give Danny the confidence to express himself without worrying about having to be the playmaker.

 

i think a midfield of three,  cabaye tiote and guthrie would be very good.  or a midfield of five with them three in the middle.  full of mad energy and technique.  the only thing thats really missing from this combination of the three is possible someone that can really dribble past players, but we got our wingers and hatem, to do that stuff.

 

It would probably be a good system to use against Man City if Tiote and Cabaye are fit. One of Cabaye and Guthrie would have to make a real effort to support Ba though, as he could get very isolated if they all played their natural game (I think Cabaye and Guthrie are naturally similar players who like to dictate the play and score their goals from 20ish yards rather than really push forward and support the attack.) Would be an interesting system to use away from home against the better teams though if we could get it to work with Jonas and Obertan on the wings and Ba up top.

[ponsaelius]

Another one I was happy to see go but am eating humble pie, no wonder I'm so fat.

 

I've always liked him.

 

Same. Sad the way people lumped him in the same category as Smith.

 

Watched the game again today, didn't look fat which is good.

[Benwell Lad]

Although behind a first choice two of Cabaye and Tiote that doesn't mean a lot in modern top level football and certainly doesn't make someone a "reserve".

Over the course of a season with cup runs, inevitable suspensions and injuries as well as international call ups he should feature in a significant number of games, as will other quality squad members.

[Ameritoon]

I think he's a more suitable back-up for Cabaye rather than Tiote, imo.

 

Some of his best performances, going back to the Championship) were playing in that more reserved CM role. I would think by his style of play he would be better backing up Cabaye, but he doesn't seem to perform as well when he's the main guy getting forward.

[Cronky]

I think people were way too harsh on Guthrie after the WBA game last season and completely ignored how he had done for us before that. His first season with us he had some very good games and showed a fair bit of ability I thought, but like everyone else, his form suffered as that shambolic season came to its end. In the championship I thought he was one of our better players as well, he was absolutely running the show for us in the second half of the season and dominating in midfield, chipping in with a fair few assists. Last season he had a bad game against WBA, but then followed it with some good ones (Spurs at home (I think?) and Man Utd at home he was good). And this season, he's been called on without having hardly any match fitness and performed admirably in two tough games. Hope he keeps it up, im a fan and he can be a very useful backup to Tiote and Cabaye.

 

I still think he's at his best when he's got a midfield "boss" next to him. I think big characters like Cabaye and Tiote give Danny the confidence to express himself without worrying about having to be the playmaker.

 

i think a midfield of three,  cabaye tiote and guthrie would be very good.  or a midfield of five with them three in the middle.  full of mad energy and technique.  the only thing thats really missing from this combination of the three is possible someone that can really dribble past players, but we got our wingers and hatem, to do that stuff.

 

I'd agree. I'd love to see that tried.

[Guest BlacknWhiteArmy]

I think he's a more suitable back-up for Cabaye rather than Tiote, imo.

 

Some of his best performances, going back to the Championship) were playing in that more reserved CM role. I would think by his style of play he would be better backing up Cabaye, but he doesn't seem to perform as well when he's the main guy getting forward.

 

Agree.

[Flip]

Is he better than Cabaye? No.

 

FYP

[Guest BlacknWhiteArmy]

[wormy]

In terms of position, he's like an Emre to me. Hasn't got it to hold the DM position for any lengthy run of games, but hasn't got it to be running into the box and controlling most aspects of attacking plays. He's got damn good vision on him, and if given enough time on the ball can produce some great moments to get the ball up field and begin an attacking movement at least. That will do a lot of good for us as long as there's other players around to fill the previously mentioned duties.

[BeloEmre]

Looks like he will sign a new contract according to todays Chron.

[TherealnorthernTOON]

With his performance of late I'm glad if its true, he is a really good replacement in midfield whenever suspensions, tiredness, ANC or whatever is on. And as first in line he can easily expect 15-20 games atleast during a season. When in europe pherhaps double that.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

He's a great squad player for us, not sure whether he'll ever be more than that but he seems to have come on a bit recently anyway.

[Cronky]

I would pick him against Man City regardless of Tiote or Cabaye's availability. On the form he showed against Everton, he has to play.

[mrmojorisin75]

I would pick him against Man City regardless of Tiote or Cabaye's availability. On the form he showed against Everton, he has to play.

 

instead of who, one of the strikers and a five man midfield?

[Cronky]

I would pick him against Man City regardless of Tiote or Cabaye's availability. On the form he showed against Everton, he has to play.

 

instead of who, one of the strikers and a five man midfield?

 

I think we'll go for a five man midfield, so in a way, I think Pardew will be spared the tricky decision.

 

But my point was that I don't see Guthrie as just a back-up any more. I would not drop him just to pitch either Tiote or Cabaye back in the side, unless his form dips.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I would pick him against Man City regardless of Tiote or Cabaye's availability. On the form he showed against Everton, he has to play.

 

Wouldn't go that far. If a reserve comes in and performs well it's great and obviously helps his cause, but I don't think it means he automatically should start. Especially since he only played in the first place due to injury.