Heron Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 8 hours ago, Thumbheed said: Will play devil's advocate again and ask whether the Trust's strategy is the correct one if it's proving to be so divisive amongst the demographic it represents? Just my personal opinion, but there is one singular issue that ALL Newcastle fans agree on, and that's the ownership issue. Wouldn't it therefore be of more value to the fans, Trust and the club if the strategy was geared towards ensuring the eventual departure of Ashley? Quite how that's manifests itself into a cohesive plan is up for debate but wouldn't that be the best way to engage the fans - by appealing to their 'needs'? Yeah, I think so. I think too mich emphasis has been placer on communicating with the club in the past and whilst the Trust should be cautious how it positions itself it should absolutely join fans in putting the club to task in my opinion. After all its a Supporters Trust, its primary function is to act for supporters. The problem again though is, even if the Trust do, do something it won't be enough for some. I do feel it should assiist those groups trying to make a difference and/or apply pressure any reasonable way possible though, now before it's too late and we're relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I think the Trust are to far down the "fans liason office" to go anywhere near offending Ashley or the club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Heron said: Yeah, I think so. I think too mich emphasis has been placer on communicating with the club in the past and whilst the Trust should be cautious how it positions itself it should absolutely join fans in putting the club to task in my opinion. After all its a Supporters Trust, its primary function is to act for supporters. The problem again though is, even if the Trust do, do something it won't be enough for some. I do feel it should assiist those groups trying to make a difference and/or apply pressure any reasonable way possible though, now before it's too late and we're relegated. That's fair enough I do think NUST need to be more takeover centric rather than anti Ashley at the moment and perhaps need to communicate that support a bit more than they have been doing, but yeh, appreciate the debate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 28/09/2021 at 12:16, Thumbheed said: I'd like to see NUST release something about the upcoming CAT case. Especially as they've been contributing to the fan led review on football governance. Feels like a perfect opportunity to put some subtle pressure out there about how the CAT case jurisdiction challenge from the PL embodies the lack of transparency that all football fans are craving to see the end of, especially moreso now that UEFA have dropped their case against the remaining ESL clubs. Didn’t quite get your wish, but they did manage to post to tell fans not to record the session Almost as ridiculous as the health and safety assessment of the London process. Considering we heard first hand today about how much the PL wants to hide from Newcastle fans, it’s staggering they’re still sat on their hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: but they did manage to post to tell fans not to record the session Almost as ridiculous as the health and safety assessment of the London process. Edited September 29, 2021 by RS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Didn’t quite get your wish, but they did manage to post to tell fans not to record the session Almost as ridiculous as the health and safety assessment of the London process. Considering we heard first hand today about how much the PL wants to hide from Newcastle fans, it’s staggering they’re still sat on their hands. At a total loss for why they wouldn't be all over this. Do the PL have any legislative power over them? If they're threatening to kick us out the league perhaps they have that on NUST as well? Literally the only explanation I have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 21 hours ago, Fantail Breeze said: Didn’t quite get your wish, but they did manage to post to tell fans not to record the session Almost as ridiculous as the health and safety assessment of the London process. Considering we heard first hand today about how much the PL wants to hide from Newcastle fans, it’s staggering they’re still sat on their hands. I tried ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 21 hours ago, Thumbheed said: At a total loss for why they wouldn't be all over this. Do the PL have any legislative power over them? If they're threatening to kick us out the league perhaps they have that on NUST as well? Literally the only explanation I have. Nowt, or they shouldn't have. Nor should we bow fown to their threats if this is what they're threatening. PL threatening to kick us oot the league after aal the ESL carry on. Farcical. Where's it said this? It's news to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 31 minutes ago, Heron said: I tried ? Were you given a reason as to why not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: Were you given a reason as to why not? Alex didn’t come up with the idea himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 On 28/09/2021 at 22:03, Joey Linton said: @Heronseems to have a better grasp about what people want from NUST, but i fear he's going to be frustrated by others on the board at the Trust. 50 minutes ago, Heron said: I tried ? As anticipated unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 49 minutes ago, Heron said: Nowt, or they shouldn't have. Nor should we bow fown to their threats if this is what they're threatening. PL threatening to kick us oot the league after aal the ESL carry on. Farcical. Where's it said this? It's news to me All over the media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Will have to try and give it a read - was there something in The TImes by Henry Winter? I think I'm almost at the stage I'd welcome them kicking us out the league if it meant we lost Ashley and didn't have to put up with the twats at the PL like. Sadly though, it'd probably cripple the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 26 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: Were you given a reason as to why not? I think it was felt little would be gained from putting something like I did from my personal account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Heron said: I think it was felt little would be gained from putting something like I did from my personal account. And yet they gained the exact same thing by not putting anything out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) Well, according to their latest email NUST don't think the PL are fit for purpose. Quickly followed up by an email offering discount on a Jigsaw.... Edited September 30, 2021 by Numbers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Numbers said: Well, according to their latest email NUST don't think the PL are fit for purpose. Quickly followed up by an email offering discount on a Jigsaw.... What is it a jigsaw of? Edited September 30, 2021 by Joey Linton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Can they not just stick the pipe dream money they have collected into a brown envelope and address it to Mr Masters? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Joey Linton said: What is it a jigsaw of? https://artybianco.co.uk/products/newcastle-legend-jigsaw?mc_cid=2a5bcfaf5b&mc_eid=20f9cc838c I'm hoping they have an air fryer next month. Edited September 30, 2021 by Numbers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, Numbers said: https://artybianco.co.uk/products/newcastle-legend-jigsaw?mc_cid=2a5bcfaf5b&mc_eid=20f9cc838c I'm hoping they have an air fryer next month. No chance. Think of the health and safety report they'd have to prepare first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, Numbers said: https://artybianco.co.uk/products/newcastle-legend-jigsaw?mc_cid=2a5bcfaf5b&mc_eid=20f9cc838c I'm hoping they have an air fryer next month. 30 quid for a fucking jigsaw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Just now, et tu brute said: 30 quid for a fucking jigsaw Might have to set up my own pledge if i want one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Posted this in the takeover thread as parallels are interesting but also talks about their supporters group: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58736570 "An extensive survey of our members and the wider fanbase, carried out midway through the 2020-21 season, reaffirmed how supporters view a change in ownership as a priority if we are to rebuild the supporter experience at our club." Had a little gander at the supporters group: http://hammersunited.com/statement/ "We are a non-political group; our soul interest is the supporters of West Ham United. This is not a protest group. We are a supporter’s group. However, we coordinate protest where our members deem it necessary. At present, our members want us to prioritise continuing to campaign for a change of ownership. Whilst maintaining our campaign, we work with the club on other matters, on behalf of our members. At all times, our members decide our stance on campaigns and protest." Also from the BBC article : "But Paul Colborne, co-founder and chair of Hammers United- and who is currently banned from attending West Ham matches after he was part of a pitch invasion protest before a game against Burnley in March 2018" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) That’s always been the reason why the likes of Greg and Alex will never allow the Trust to do anything meaningful, they’re too precious about their matchday experiences. As I’ve repeated, more bothered about themselves rather than the supporters… should be nowhere near the roles they have. Edited September 30, 2021 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) On 29/09/2021 at 19:52, Fantail Breeze said: Didn’t quite get your wish, but they did manage to post to tell fans not to record the session Almost as ridiculous as the health and safety assessment of the London process. Considering we heard first hand today about how much the PL wants to hide from Newcastle fans, it’s staggering they’re still sat on their hands. Seems like NUST have put something out there. Fair play @Heron Edited October 1, 2021 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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