The old Chris Hughton discussion thread

[Benwell Lad]

Chaps, the fact that the best suggestions we've had for what the clearly inept manager should have done differently are to have played Leon f***ing Best and thrown on Ranger out of position should tell you enough about the situation to know that his hands are tied.

 

It's not just a manager's job to pick the lineup you know. The tactics were horrid.

 

The side we put out yesterday was the type of side we'd have played in the Carling Cup 2nd round if we had a full squad, i.e. a virtual 2nd eleven.

There's not much Hughton can do about having so many big players out at the same time, but that said there was a serious lack of desire which is the manager's problem to address.

If we had equalised (and we nearly did) we would have looked like a different side and not lost, but that's a huge IF of course.

Anyone else begining to realise just how important the assured quality of Colocinni is to the team in this league ?

[Weezertron]

Although it's canny effective... well, sort of.... it saddens me that our tactics consist of getting the ball on the Carrolls bonce.

 

Granted it might have been because I had just seen Nasris goals, but our only chance in the first half was a set play. Commentator started spouting the s**** about how we can bring all our big meatheads up to get our first shot on goal. My initial thought being 'oh, we're one of those teams now'.

 

Aye. So I want us to be Arsenal, so what? f*** YOU!

[colinmk]

Although it's canny effective... well, sort of.... it saddens me that our tactics consist of getting the ball on the Carrolls bonce.

 

Granted it might have been because I had just seen Nasris goals, but our only chance in the first half was a set play. Commentator started spouting the s**** about how we can bring all our big meatheads up to get our first shot on goal. My initial thought being 'oh, we're one of those teams now'.

 

Aye. So I want us to be Arsenal, so what? f*** YOU!

 

Yesterday nothing was working really but generally our standard of football has consisted of a lot more than lumping it up to Carroll. He is obviously a target at set-pieces, he has to be but our general play this season has been far form hit and hope towards AC.

[ohmelads]

Up until the last few weeks we certainly didn't deserve the tag of a long ball team, and many neutrals said we were playing some nice stuff and passing it about. Yes we used Carroll's height but we were by no means a route one team.

 

We've long relied on our left side of Enrique and Gutierrez being dangerous with their overlapping play. Our right side was limited but we found with Barton's crossing we had some threat from both sides and could stretch teams. We've gone from that to having no threat on either side, Enrique won't get forward and Barton's missed the last 4 games. That, coupled with Ameobi's poor form, in large part explains our struggles.

 

Guthrie is a confidence player and right now his confidence is shot. I really hope Barton is back for Liverpool because I don't see what options we have. Smith had a couple of decent games before Tiote came in but looks a liability once again and besides he offers nothing going forward. Take Barton out and what have we got? We may have to consider blooding Vuckic, I don't know anything about the lad but fixture congestion around Christmas means all teams will do some rotation.

[Dokko]

Apparently gone from 16/1 to 1/2 next manager sacked.

[JH]

Chaps, the fact that the best suggestions we've had for what the clearly inept manager should have done differently are to have played Leon f***ing Best and thrown on Ranger out of position should tell you enough about the situation to know that his hands are tied.

 

It's not just a manager's job to pick the lineup you know. The tactics were horrid.

 

The side we put out yesterday was the type of side we'd have played in the Carling Cup 2nd round if we had a full squad, i.e. a virtual 2nd eleven.

There's not much Hughton can do about having so many big players out at the same time, but that said there was a serious lack of desire which is the manager's problem to address.

If we had equalised (and we nearly did) we would have looked like a different side and not lost, but that's a huge IF of course.

Anyone else begining to realise just how important the assured quality of Colocinni is to the team in this league ?

 

There's no way that was a 2nd XI like, virtual or otherwise.

[Superior Acuña]

William Hill suspended betting.

[Foluwashola]

Silly bookies.

[Colocho]

Sky Bet have slashed the odds from 14/1 to 1/2 ...

 

[Dave]

Boring cunts.

[Zero]

Well looking at the fixtures and the likely position we are in at the end of Dec, it's hardly a surprise.

 

That said, if we really sack CH, we fully deserve to go down again.

[Newcastle Fan]

His objective is to avoid relegation, don't think he's done too bad did he? still got my support.

[Liam Liam Liam O]

Well looking at the fixtures and the likely position we are in at the end of Dec, it's hardly a surprise.

 

That said, if we really sack CH, we fully deserve to go down again.

 

Utter nonsense.

[JH]

His objective is to avoid relegation, don't think he's done too bad did he? still got my support.

 

If the season was meant to end in December, it would. 4 points with our fixture list isn't that great of a gap.

[Dave]

His objective is to avoid relegation, don't think he's done too bad did he? still got my support.

 

No, no - you've got it all wrong. The target was European qualification and that's what all the fans demanded. We've in actual fact been relegated already due to a new rule that says the instant teams drop out of the top half of the table they're automatically doomed.

[JH]

His objective is to avoid relegation, don't think he's done too bad did he? still got my support.

 

No, no - you've got it all wrong. The target was European qualification and that's what all the fans demanded. We've in actual fact been relegated already due to a new rule that says the instant teams drop out of the top half of the table they're automatically doomed.

 

Exaggerate the opinion you don't agree with - there's something I've not seen before.

[Frazzle]

Well looking at the fixtures and the likely position we are in at the end of Dec, it's hardly a surprise.

 

That said, if we really sack CH, we fully deserve to go down again.

 

Utter nonsense.

 

It just sets a terrible precedent though.  What do we do if we are in the same position in ten games time with the new manager? Sack him?  Where does it end, we need to at least one manager the time to build his own squad and implement his own tactics.  This generally does not happen overnight.  Even Mourinho concedes that he needs two years to mould his teams.

[Dave]

His objective is to avoid relegation, don't think he's done too bad did he? still got my support.

 

No, no - you've got it all wrong. The target was European qualification and that's what all the fans demanded. We've in actual fact been relegated already due to a new rule that says the instant teams drop out of the top half of the table they're automatically doomed.

 

Exaggerate the opinion you don't agree with - there's something I've not seen before.

 

That's correct, it was in the post immediately before that one.

[JH]

His objective is to avoid relegation, don't think he's done too bad did he? still got my support.

 

No, no - you've got it all wrong. The target was European qualification and that's what all the fans demanded. We've in actual fact been relegated already due to a new rule that says the instant teams drop out of the top half of the table they're automatically doomed.

 

Exaggerate the opinion you don't agree with - there's something I've not seen before.

 

That's correct, it was in the post immediately before that one.

 

?

 

All I was saying was we haven't 'avoided relegation' yet, so it's not job done.

[Dave]

And all I was doing was having a go at the media (and the club if there's any truth in this bollocks, which I doubt) rather than the likes of you

[Ginola]

Hughton's done a good job with the squad we've got. To say he should be sacked is absolute s****.

 

With regards to the upcoming fixtures, we picked up 10 points from Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton and Villa, 4 of the better sides in the league. There's no saying we can't pick up points in the next few games.

[Dave]

Four points off the relegation zone. :omg:

 

Four points off sixth. :omg:

 

According to the Premier League table we're currently ranked as a mid-table team, which means we have and will continue to lose just as many (if not more) games than we win. That's probably better than most of us expected at the start of the season. Our present form isn't good and by no means am I saying I'm not worried at all, but the fact we're still 11th means not only are others just as bad as us at throwing points away, they're actually worse. Changing the manager at this stage would be a ridiculous risk, if not outright suicide considering the current regime's track record of employing them.

 

Again, I'm just ranting to myself here before anyone takes offence.

[Benwell Lad]

His objective is to avoid relegation, don't think he's done too bad did he? still got my support.

 

No, no - you've got it all wrong. The target was European qualification and that's what all the fans demanded. We've in actual fact been relegated already due to a new rule that says the instant teams drop out of the top half of the table they're automatically doomed.

 

Sometimes, sarcasm explains things best.

[Ronaldo]

Should we lose to Liverpool badly, I think he'll be gone. Perhaps not right away, but at some point before the end of january.

[The Prophet]

His objective is to avoid relegation, don't think he's done too bad did he? still got my support.

 

No, no - you've got it all wrong. The target was European qualification and that's what all the fans demanded. We've in actual fact been relegated already due to a new rule that says the instant teams drop out of the top half of the table they're automatically doomed.

 

Exaggerate the opinion you don't agree with - there's something I've not seen before.

 

Aye, your a master at it.