Guest Heneage Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 There are 9 leagues better than Portugal? Crazy talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 On 22/02/2010 at 21:33, Minister Babatunde ‽ said: Quote Yep, Quaresma is one of those players with a pretty big following, me included. He's sensationally talented and waaaaay out of our league. He's been a failure everywhere outside of Portugal (maybe the tenth best league in Europe), he has no business rejecting a Premiership team. Didn't say he'd reject a premiership team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 On 22/02/2010 at 21:48, Kezman said: There are 9 leagues better than Portugal? Crazy talk. England, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, Holland. Quote Quote How about Kazim Kazim? Talented young player who knows the league. On loan at Toulouse right now which maybe means he would be available to buy. Didn't know he was at Toulouse, hows he doing? Always thought he was pretty s*** at Sheff Utd but seems to have forged a decent career for himself since he left. Maybe we should spunk big bucks on Arda Turan (not that he'd move) He only came over at the end of January so I've only seen him through highlights. But generally he's slotted diretly into the starting line of one of the better teams in France and scored a decent goal against Le Mans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Russia, Ukraine and Turkey? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 On 22/02/2010 at 21:55, Ronaldo said: Russia, Ukraine and Turkey? Ukraine and Turkey are up for debate of you like, but Russia is quite clearly ahead of Portugal, with the money that has been pumped into that league. Russia is barely behind France and Germany at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Looking back at Babatunde original post he typed "Portugal (maybe the tenth best league in Europe)", reading that it is plain to see he by no means said or implied there were defiantly 9 leagues better than the Portuguese league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Fwiw, Portugal was ranked exactly at #10 by UEFA at the start of this season, below England, Spain, Italy, Germany, France, Russia, Ukraine, Netherlands and... Romania. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Around the time he joined Porto they'd just won the Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 On 22/02/2010 at 22:12, Kezman said: Around the time he joined Porto they'd just won the Champions League. Porto, Sporting, and Benfica are all decent teams. There's not much to say at all for the 13 or so others though. They are horrifically bad. Similar to Holland in that sense. Quote Fwiw, Portugal was ranked exactly at #10 by UEFA at the start of this season, below England, Spain, Italy, Germany, France, Russia, Ukraine, Netherlands and... Romania. I'd agree with all of those except for Romania. Then again they have some decent teams that have been getting results in Europe of late. edit: Holland is definitely worse than Portugal actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 On 22/02/2010 at 22:18, Minister Babatunde ‽ said: Quote Around the time he joined Porto they'd just won the Champions League. Porto, Sporting, and Benfica are all decent teams. There's not much to say at all for the 13 or so others though. They are horrifically bad. Similar to Holland in that sense. Quote Fwiw, Portugal was ranked exactly at #10 by UEFA at the start of this season, below England, Spain, Italy, Germany, France, Russia, Ukraine, Netherlands and... Romania. I'd agree with all of those except for Romania. Then again they have some decent teams that have been getting results in Europe of late. edit: Holland is definitely worse than Portugal actually. Except Holland only really has ever had Ajax and Psv, at least now Portugal has Braga making some decent movements while Holland has Twente. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 On 23/02/2010 at 00:03, Kezman said: Quote Quote Around the time he joined Porto they'd just won the Champions League. Porto, Sporting, and Benfica are all decent teams. There's not much to say at all for the 13 or so others though. They are horrifically bad. Similar to Holland in that sense. Quote Fwiw, Portugal was ranked exactly at #10 by UEFA at the start of this season, below England, Spain, Italy, Germany, France, Russia, Ukraine, Netherlands and... Romania. I'd agree with all of those except for Romania. Then again they have some decent teams that have been getting results in Europe of late. edit: Holland is definitely worse than Portugal actually. Except Holland only really has ever had Ajax and Psv, at least now Portugal has Braga making some decent movements while Holland has Twente. AZ & Feyenoord are decent outfits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 There is more depth in the Dutch league than the Portuguese league though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 On 23/02/2010 at 00:08, Thespence said: Quote Quote Quote Around the time he joined Porto they'd just won the Champions League. Porto, Sporting, and Benfica are all decent teams. There's not much to say at all for the 13 or so others though. They are horrifically bad. Similar to Holland in that sense. Quote Fwiw, Portugal was ranked exactly at #10 by UEFA at the start of this season, below England, Spain, Italy, Germany, France, Russia, Ukraine, Netherlands and... Romania. I'd agree with all of those except for Romania. Then again they have some decent teams that have been getting results in Europe of late. edit: Holland is definitely worse than Portugal actually. Except Holland only really has ever had Ajax and Psv, at least now Portugal has Braga making some decent movements while Holland has Twente. AZ & Feyenoord are decent outfits They are but I'd debate if either play in the Champions League or even the Uefa cup with much regularity. PSV and Ajax certainly don't. I think a lot of people underestimate Portugal as a league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Outside the top 5, the Portuguese league is dreadful. Take those sides out and I would put them below the level of our Second Division. The Dutch league is much more deep. There's a reason the Portuguese top division has only 16 clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 On 23/02/2010 at 00:13, Kezman said: Quote Quote Quote Quote Around the time he joined Porto they'd just won the Champions League. Porto, Sporting, and Benfica are all decent teams. There's not much to say at all for the 13 or so others though. They are horrifically bad. Similar to Holland in that sense. Quote Fwiw, Portugal was ranked exactly at #10 by UEFA at the start of this season, below England, Spain, Italy, Germany, France, Russia, Ukraine, Netherlands and... Romania. I'd agree with all of those except for Romania. Then again they have some decent teams that have been getting results in Europe of late. edit: Holland is definitely worse than Portugal actually. Except Holland only really has ever had Ajax and Psv, at least now Portugal has Braga making some decent movements while Holland has Twente. AZ & Feyenoord are decent outfits They are but I'd debate if either play in the Champions League or even the Uefa cup with much regularity. PSV and Ajax certainly don't. I think a lot of people underestimate Portugal as a league. I would say they are a lot better than Braga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 On 22/02/2010 at 21:36, Minister Babatunde ‽ said: How about Kazim Kazim? Talented young player who knows the league. On loan at Toulouse right now which maybe means he would be available to buy. not a bad shout. very solid player, does the basics well, but nothing particularly special. been playing in midfield at fener. might be sold in the summer too after a sex scandal, tho personally i reckon they'll take him back once the fuss has died down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 On 23/02/2010 at 00:21, Thespence said: Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Around the time he joined Porto they'd just won the Champions League. Porto, Sporting, and Benfica are all decent teams. There's not much to say at all for the 13 or so others though. They are horrifically bad. Similar to Holland in that sense. Quote Fwiw, Portugal was ranked exactly at #10 by UEFA at the start of this season, below England, Spain, Italy, Germany, France, Russia, Ukraine, Netherlands and... Romania. I'd agree with all of those except for Romania. Then again they have some decent teams that have been getting results in Europe of late. edit: Holland is definitely worse than Portugal actually. Except Holland only really has ever had Ajax and Psv, at least now Portugal has Braga making some decent movements while Holland has Twente. AZ & Feyenoord are decent outfits They are but I'd debate if either play in the Champions League or even the Uefa cup with much regularity. PSV and Ajax certainly don't. I think a lot of people underestimate Portugal as a league. I would say they are a lot better than Braga. AZ and Feye? Must disagree there mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 On 23/02/2010 at 00:13, Kezman said: Quote Quote Quote Quote Around the time he joined Porto they'd just won the Champions League. Porto, Sporting, and Benfica are all decent teams. There's not much to say at all for the 13 or so others though. They are horrifically bad. Similar to Holland in that sense. Quote Fwiw, Portugal was ranked exactly at #10 by UEFA at the start of this season, below England, Spain, Italy, Germany, France, Russia, Ukraine, Netherlands and... Romania. I'd agree with all of those except for Romania. Then again they have some decent teams that have been getting results in Europe of late. edit: Holland is definitely worse than Portugal actually. Except Holland only really has ever had Ajax and Psv, at least now Portugal has Braga making some decent movements while Holland has Twente. AZ & Feyenoord are decent outfits They are but I'd debate if either play in the Champions League or even the Uefa cup with much regularity. PSV and Ajax certainly don't. I think a lot of people underestimate Portugal as a league. Especially teams like Benfica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 On 23/02/2010 at 00:40, Kezman said: Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Around the time he joined Porto they'd just won the Champions League. Porto, Sporting, and Benfica are all decent teams. There's not much to say at all for the 13 or so others though. They are horrifically bad. Similar to Holland in that sense. Quote Fwiw, Portugal was ranked exactly at #10 by UEFA at the start of this season, below England, Spain, Italy, Germany, France, Russia, Ukraine, Netherlands and... Romania. I'd agree with all of those except for Romania. Then again they have some decent teams that have been getting results in Europe of late. edit: Holland is definitely worse than Portugal actually. Except Holland only really has ever had Ajax and Psv, at least now Portugal has Braga making some decent movements while Holland has Twente. AZ & Feyenoord are decent outfits They are but I'd debate if either play in the Champions League or even the Uefa cup with much regularity. PSV and Ajax certainly don't. I think a lot of people underestimate Portugal as a league. I would say they are a lot better than Braga. AZ and Feye? Must disagree there mate. I'd toss Heerenveen in as better than Braga as well tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 On 23/02/2010 at 00:21, Thespence said: Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Around the time he joined Porto they'd just won the Champions League. Porto, Sporting, and Benfica are all decent teams. There's not much to say at all for the 13 or so others though. They are horrifically bad. Similar to Holland in that sense. Quote Fwiw, Portugal was ranked exactly at #10 by UEFA at the start of this season, below England, Spain, Italy, Germany, France, Russia, Ukraine, Netherlands and... Romania. I'd agree with all of those except for Romania. Then again they have some decent teams that have been getting results in Europe of late. edit: Holland is definitely worse than Portugal actually. Except Holland only really has ever had Ajax and Psv, at least now Portugal has Braga making some decent movements while Holland has Twente. AZ & Feyenoord are decent outfits They are but I'd debate if either play in the Champions League or even the Uefa cup with much regularity. PSV and Ajax certainly don't. I think a lot of people underestimate Portugal as a league. I would say they are a lot better than Braga. Bigger clubs? Yes. Especially in Feyenoords case. Better teams? No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 On 23/02/2010 at 07:29, Tooj said: Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Around the time he joined Porto they'd just won the Champions League. Porto, Sporting, and Benfica are all decent teams. There's not much to say at all for the 13 or so others though. They are horrifically bad. Similar to Holland in that sense. Quote Fwiw, Portugal was ranked exactly at #10 by UEFA at the start of this season, below England, Spain, Italy, Germany, France, Russia, Ukraine, Netherlands and... Romania. I'd agree with all of those except for Romania. Then again they have some decent teams that have been getting results in Europe of late. edit: Holland is definitely worse than Portugal actually. Except Holland only really has ever had Ajax and Psv, at least now Portugal has Braga making some decent movements while Holland has Twente. AZ & Feyenoord are decent outfits They are but I'd debate if either play in the Champions League or even the Uefa cup with much regularity. PSV and Ajax certainly don't. I think a lot of people underestimate Portugal as a league. Especially teams like Benfica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bobthemag Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 On 22/02/2010 at 20:40, Ronaldo said: De Las Cuevas would be the first on my shopping list. lets hope he is within our transfer budget of 2-3m quid because we don't want to end up like Portsmouth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 A striker, a decent play maker and a full back but we'll struggle whatever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 On 21/02/2010 at 13:13, Ketsbaias Shiny Head said: Realistic Transfer Targets July 2010: I'm throwing a few names out there: Alessandro Diamanti, Hugo Rodallega, Paul Scharner, Chris Samba, Curtis Davies, Matty Taylor, Andre Bikey, Landon Donovan, Nedum Onuoha, Jamie O Hara, Charlie Adam, Robbie Keane, Nenad Milijas, Joe Ledley, Jermaine Pennant, Matt Derbyshire, Seydou Doumbia ....its Sunday and I'm bored! diamanti - rodallega - scharner - Donovan would be nice. Belhadj from pompey also a okey leftsided player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 diego costa from valladolid would be nice. not sure if he is contracted to them or atletico tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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