Neil Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Roy would make the England team a lot more popular, I think. You can't help but want the guy to do well. Don't the press and the majority of football fans (the likes that don't use forums) already hold opposing views? Roy has a lot of work to do - both on and off the television. I think generally there's a lot of apathy about the England team at the moment - people will watch the game on TV, get behind them for a World Cup/Euros but show a high level of indifference because 'well we're always shit when it counts'. Nail on head. I'll cheer them on as much as the next person in the summer but can I say I'm really proud of the national team? Not really, no. Just so many loathsome characters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 What's the craic here, does this mean anything? They interviewed 3 or 4 managers one time, didn't they? I'll be amazed if Hodgson doesn't get/take it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 What's the craic here, does this mean anything? They interviewed 3 or 4 managers one time, didn't they? A couple of journos suggesting it's his job if he wants it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 What's the craic here, does this mean anything? They interviewed 3 or 4 managers one time, didn't they? I'd be amazed if Hodgson doesn't get it. What's the craic here, does this mean anything? They interviewed 3 or 4 managers one time, didn't they? A couple of journos suggesting it's his job if he wants it. :lol: Get the FUCK in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Personally, I think it's a bad choice. For me Roy isn't cut out for that stage. Um. Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Hodgson Forgive me for not being blown away by a good record at the footballing hotbed that is Switzerland and a moderately decent record at Inter. 15 years ago. There is much more than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Nothing at anywhere near the level of critique that the England job brings with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 So this is how it's gone. A long time without any success with English managers so a foreign one is the best option, so we get a sex addicted Swede who is on the front page of the papers more times than the back. We then decided the foreign manager wasn't a good policy, so we get a struggling English manager who only didn't get sacked by Boro because somehow they managed to beat Chelsea, we then don't even make it to the Euro's. Then we decide that a foreign manager really is the best option because our English managers are crap, so we get an Italian who can nearly speak the language and clearly doesn't have his heart set on the job then when the FA make decisions above his head he rightfully decided to call it a day. So now we swing back towards the English manager and we are set to appoint Roy. In four years time we will be back to getting the next foreign manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 From Twitter: Hodgson; Titles in Sweden/Denmark, finalist in UEFA/Europa Cup (Milan/Fulham), manager of Swiss / UAB / Finland. Redknapp; Bournemouth, West Ham, Portsmouth (FA CUP), Southampton (Relegated), Portsmouth (broke), Spurs, Monaco (bank account) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Roy would make the England team a lot more popular, I think. You can't help but want the guy to do well. Don't the press and the majority of football fans (the likes that don't use forums) already hold opposing views? Roy has a lot of work to do - both on and off the television. I think generally there's a lot of apathy about the England team at the moment - people will watch the game on TV, get behind them for a World Cup/Euros but show a high level of indifference because 'well we're always shit when it counts'. Nail on head. I'll cheer them on as much as the next person in the summer but can I say I'm really proud of the national team? Not really, no. Just so many loathsome characters. I remember GG saying something to me ages ago that he'd "genuinely rather watch Watford Ladies U18's win a throw-in" than see England win a tournament, which isn't a bad summary. People have long since stopped giving a fuck, because when it counts, the team (and often the manager) are a pile of bottling shitcunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Agree with Semtex regarding Hodgson's actual ability btw. Said when he was appointed at Liverpool that I wondered where the idea that he's some sort of Bobby Robson clone had come from. Had a lot of jobs across Europe, but I wouldn't say he was owt particularly special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Agree with Semtex regarding Hodgson's actual ability btw. Said when he was appointed at Liverpool that I wondered where the idea that he's some sort of Bobby Robson clone had come from. Had a lot of jobs across Europe, but I wouldn't say he was owt particularly special. Maybe we're not looking for 'special', though. We might just be looking for the right man at the right time; a bit like we did with Pardew. Nobody thought he was anything special whatsoever when we appointed him, his name was pretty much mud. Capello is undoubtedly a talented bloke and before he was appointed many would have argued he was 'special', but was he right for the England job when it really counted? Was he shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Fair enough. Won't do for the southern media though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Excellent news. At least Woy is somewhat likeable. Trying to support Redknapp's England over Cabaye/HBA at the Euros would feel...wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Only just heard about this, while imho he's a good choice it would leave him in an unenviable position, first time anything goes wrong (oh lets say not winning the Euros) the knives are not only going to be out but being thrown in his direction, the media will not be amused by this snubbing of their mate Harry leaving Hodgson the proverbial lame duck. I also question how the players will react, a lot of them said rather openly they wanted Arry as their manager and Hodgsons training methods apparently involve a lot of dull but important repetitive work which "big" players (see his time at Liverpool) see themselves as above. All that said it will make for a must watch scenario in the same way as a car crash is a must watch scenario. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Roy has got ability and it is clear in his CV, even without him having won anything that is considered meaningful in this country. Definitely the best English manger out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 after erikson and capello you can understand the FA wanting an englishman but international class english managers are about as rare as international class english goalkeepers or right backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Roy has done very well with Fulham, he done well with a couple of international teams as well but everything has really been average. Even with WBA they aren't all that great, sure they are staying up this season and for them thats a success but any other decent manager could really have done the same thing as WBA do actually have quite a few decent players. Over all I don't think he's something special, he's not known for playing the best kind of football. I just don't think he will have the bottle to drop a few of the big names who really need to be dropped and bring in the younger players, I also don't think he will be able to gain enough respect from the big name players and will be able motivate them. If he went into the Euro's and dropped the likes of Terry, Gerrard, etc who most of us rightfully think should be dropped then when our younger players obviously don't win the tournament will the FA look at him and wonder if they made the right choice? Will they think that when it becomes clear he didn't have the bottle to drop the players who should have dropped? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Definitely the best English manger out there. http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2012/4/28/1335640021876/Newcastle-United-manager--008.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Better than him, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 also this may have been brought up before but anyone else think its not so much a snubbing of Redknapp on ability ground but costs? Would have cost the FA a fortune dealing with Levy to get Redknapp, Hodgson however is out of contract this summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Better than him, yes. http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01779/pardewap_1779878c.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 someone on my mates facebook status iv gone for him,dont worry I agree but neither of them are Gunna/have won fuck all as managers hodgson showed how shit he is at Liverpool! Redknap on the other hand would fit in well with the squad as he's as bent as fuck, at least he'll have a common ground with Stevie g and terry as they'll be able to compare case notes and how to get off with stuff the average joe would have been doing a stretch with bubba for! It's the 1 thing there missing they've got a granny fucker a thug and a racist and now the king of fraud! I think I should get the job don't you lol? Give it to big Sam or king kenny I say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Roy has got ability and it is clear in his CV, even without him having won anything that is considered meaningful in this country. Definitely the best English manger out there. Do we really need to dwell on that? Surely we should go for the best manager out there to manage England and not the best English manager out there who could be the wrong manager for England? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Roy has done very well with Fulham, he done well with a couple of international teams as well but everything has really been average. Even with WBA they aren't all that great, sure they are staying up this season and for them thats a success but any other decent manager could really have done the same thing as WBA do actually have quite a few decent players. Over all I don't think he's something special, he's not known for playing the best kind of football. I just don't think he will have the bottle to drop a few of the big names who really need to be dropped and bring in the younger players, I also don't think he will be able to gain enough respect from the big name players and will be able motivate them. If he went into the Euro's and dropped the likes of Terry, Gerrard, etc who most of us rightfully think should be dropped then when our younger players obviously don't win the tournament will the FA look at him and wonder if they made the right choice? Will they think that when it becomes clear he didn't have the bottle to drop the players who should have dropped? for WBA staying up in successive years is a bloody miracle they're not noted for having the ability to survive normally and the fact they were nowhere near trouble in either season under Hodgson shows his ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Roy has got ability and it is clear in his CV, even without him having won anything that is considered meaningful in this country. Definitely the best English manger out there. Do we really need to dwell on that? Surely we should go for the best manager out there to manage England and not the best English manager out there who could be the wrong manager for England? Is HTT only interested in the Newcastle job or is he an option? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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