alexthegreat Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Good post on RAWK: I've been reserving judgement on the validity of the verdict until I read the report. Now that I've read it I don't think you can argue with the findings. We can cherrypick the report to pieces but broadly speaking it seems to be pretty accurate. I'm especially not a fan of us seemingly misleading the investigative process in the immediate aftermath of the incident. The club really discredited themselves there. I've tried to give the club and Suarez the benefit of the doubt but it's pretty clear that overall Suarez was in the wrong here Several negative replies in 4 minutes including this one: Crawling out the wood work again I see.. Reported. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I'm confused. Has this argument against Suarez been classed as fact or what? On a sidenote, I don't know if it'd be against any copyright or what, so I'll just say search 'Evra's lies' into a well-known video website. Fucking cringeworthy. seems from what I've read they have video evidence which no one else has seen which makes it very bad for Suarez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Good post on RAWK: I've been reserving judgement on the validity of the verdict until I read the report. Now that I've read it I don't think you can argue with the findings. We can cherrypick the report to pieces but broadly speaking it seems to be pretty accurate. I'm especially not a fan of us seemingly misleading the investigative process in the immediate aftermath of the incident. The club really discredited themselves there. I've tried to give the club and Suarez the benefit of the doubt but it's pretty clear that overall Suarez was in the wrong here Several negative replies in 4 minutes including this one: Crawling out the wood work again I see.. Reported. Reported ffs :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 reported for having his own opinion jesus fucking christ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I'm confused. Has this argument against Suarez been classed as fact or what? 'Fact', as judged by the investigation: Mr Suarez fouled Mr Evra in the 58th minute of the game. In the 63rd minute, Mr Evra challenged Mr Suarez about the foul. Mr Evra used an offensive phrase, which did not have any racial element and which Mr Suarez did not hear. An acrimonious argument ensued in which both players had a go at each other. In the course of this confrontation, Mr Suarez used the words "negro" or "negros" seven times. He did so both before and after the referee had spoken to them and told them to calm down. Mr Suarez addressed Mr Evra as "negro". He also made other derogatory comments using the word. In the course of the argument, Mr Suarez also pinched Mr Evra's skin (which was not in itself insulting behaviour nor did it refer to Mr Evra's colour) and put his hand on the back of his head, which were part of Mr Suarez's attempts to wind up Mr Evra (paragraphs 346 to 384 above). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I've been actively avoiding RAWK after last night's result. Fuck that. Honestly its brilliant, some of them are saying he's lucky to just get 8 games if Evra's story is to be believed, but the rest are like drooling mongaloids, its so funny seeing them trying to defend him using the word "Negro" as a term of affection its rather unbelievable and yet they still claim its an FA stitch up despite it being from an independent body But this is Liverpool though, martyrs to the enth degree them like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Just listened to Nick Collins going through that on SSN. Did Liverpool know all this before they appealed? Sorry, just said they haven't yet. No way at all can they appeal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I'm confused. Has this argument against Suarez been classed as fact or what? 'Fact', as judged by the investigation: Mr Suarez fouled Mr Evra in the 58th minute of the game. In the 63rd minute, Mr Evra challenged Mr Suarez about the foul. Mr Evra used an offensive phrase, which did not have any racial element and which Mr Suarez did not hear. An acrimonious argument ensued in which both players had a go at each other. In the course of this confrontation, Mr Suarez used the words "negro" or "negros" seven times. He did so both before and after the referee had spoken to them and told them to calm down. Mr Suarez addressed Mr Evra as "negro". He also made other derogatory comments using the word. In the course of the argument, Mr Suarez also pinched Mr Evra's skin (which was not in itself insulting behaviour nor did it refer to Mr Evra's colour) and put his hand on the back of his head, which were part of Mr Suarez's attempts to wind up Mr Evra (paragraphs 346 to 384 above). Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Just listened to Nick Collins going through that on SSN. Did Liverpool know all this before they appealed? Sorry, just said they haven't yet. No way at all can they appeal. they will and frankly if they do and continue to act in the way they have they should have the book thrown at them for pure stupidity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Good post on RAWK: I've been reserving judgement on the validity of the verdict until I read the report. Now that I've read it I don't think you can argue with the findings. We can cherrypick the report to pieces but broadly speaking it seems to be pretty accurate. I'm especially not a fan of us seemingly misleading the investigative process in the immediate aftermath of the incident. The club really discredited themselves there. I've tried to give the club and Suarez the benefit of the doubt but it's pretty clear that overall Suarez was in the wrong here Several negative replies in 4 minutes including this one: Crawling out the wood work again I see.. Reported. Have these posts been deleted now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Yep, banned. Banned for having an opinion that differs to the majority Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Yep, banned. Banned for having an opinion that differs to the majority It is the scouse way......attack all that dont agree with their logic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Yep, banned. Banned for having an opinion that differs to the majority they probably view him as a manc anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Totalitarian messageboards. The Liverpool way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 i'm actually getting angry reading the total shit coming out there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Good post on RAWK: I've been reserving judgement on the validity of the verdict until I read the report. Now that I've read it I don't think you can argue with the findings. We can cherrypick the report to pieces but broadly speaking it seems to be pretty accurate. I'm especially not a fan of us seemingly misleading the investigative process in the immediate aftermath of the incident. The club really discredited themselves there. I've tried to give the club and Suarez the benefit of the doubt but it's pretty clear that overall Suarez was in the wrong here Several negative replies in 4 minutes including this one: Crawling out the wood work again I see.. Reported. Reported ffs :lol: Reported, hot shit You serious that he's been banned for that post? More must have happened afterwards, surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphrodite Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 According to Mr Suarez, Mr Comolli misheard what Mr Suarez said in Spanish, and Mr Kuyt misheard what Mr Suarez said in Dutch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 So if they pull their appeal now does he just get the 8 games or do the FA lengthen the ban? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphrodite Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 So if they pull their appeal now does he just get the 8 games or do the FA lengthen the ban? Just the eight games, I think they will appeal though, the tribunal have left a few gaps for Liverpool to challenge should they so wish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VegasToon Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I am going to guess Sunderland will bid for Suarez in Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Pretty clear cut: The second exchange alleged by Mr Evra was that he said "say it to me again, I'm going to punch you", to which Mr Suarez replied "I don't speak to blacks". Mr Evra told his four team-mates and the referee straight after the match that Mr Suarez had said this. Their evidence was accepted in full by Mr Suarez. The position, therefore, is as follows. Mr Suarez spoke in Spanish to Mr Comolli soon after the game about this serious allegation. Mr Suarez also spoke in Dutch to Mr Kuyt. Both Mr Comolli and Mr Kuyt understood Mr Suarez to have told them that when he spoke to Mr Evra he said words which translate into English as, "Because you are black". According to Mr Suarez, Mr Comolli misheard what Mr Suarez said in Spanish, and Mr Kuyt misheard what Mr Suarez said in Dutch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 This is just fucking glorious. Sitting here with my popcorn, can't wait to see what happens next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 The fact that he accepted that he said he didn't speak to blacks and Liverpool still went ahead with everything that came afterwards is absolutely obscene. They should have the fucking book thrown at the lot of them. 8 games? He's lucky the Premier League are allowing him back at all, the horrible ugly little cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 The fucking absolute shower of fucking cunts. How can they still continue to defend the racist little wanker despite having it spelt out, word for fucking word, what actually happened? Said it before, the entire club, from the very top to the dregs at the bottom and every cunt in between, are absolute scum. Kick the little twat out of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 This is just fucking glorious. Sitting here with my popcorn, can't wait to see what happens next. http://tigerhoods.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Michael+Jackson+likes+popcorn+www+thefacepalm+org_17ff93_218203.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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