Parky Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Is Rodgers in control of transfers at Liverpool? They use a moneyball type database and a transfer committee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Is Rodgers in control of transfers at Liverpool? They use a moneyball type database and a transfer committee. Aka a roulette wheel with the hottest transfer targets of 2012 on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/27/heysel-stadium-disaster-30th-anniversary Genuinely shocked how many people don't know about this. I know plenty do but when the name 'Heysel' is mentioned, quite a few Average Joes don't really cotton on what you're referring to. The sheer fact it was in mainland in Europe and not this country has somehow protected it from much deeper scrutiny. Which is why years of hysterical media coverage over Hillsborough - another horrific tragedy - doesn't sit well with me. Four years later, I hoped that the nightmare at Hillsborough would make Liverpool fans think again, and differently, about Heysel, and campaign for justice in both instances: quite the opposite, Heysel just disappeared altogether. Spot on. yes very quickly forgotten by the scouse cunts as i remember it well and said to my dad "liverpool fans caused that disaster" ,too this day they hide behind Hillsborough and forget there disgusting and cowardly act by them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 That may be because a good number of the people responsible for Heysel disaster were arrested, tried and punished for it. Those responsible for Hillsborough destroyed the evidence and got away scot-free, largely thanks to government complicity in the cover-up. It took literally over 20 years for the blame to be correctly apportioned, and still nobody was actually punished for what they did. I'd be the first to agree that a lot of Liverpool fans have chips on their shoulders that are so large that they practically qualify as moons, but beating LFC fans as a group over the head with their different attitude towards a disaster where many of the guilty went to prison and a disaster where everyone who was actually responsible not only got away scot-free, but were allowed to paint the victims as the perpetrators, is some pretty weak sauce. I've spoken to a lot of fans of other clubs who were going to matches in the '80s, and by far the most common response to Hillsborough is "there, but for the grace of God, go we." There's plenty to criticise in LFC fans without having to reach for the Heysel-Hillsborough straw man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Anyone who attended matches in the 80's knows the cause of both disasters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 That may be because a good number of the people responsible for Heysel disaster were arrested, tried and punished for it. Those responsible for Hillsborough destroyed the evidence and got away scot-free, largely thanks to government complicity in the cover-up. It took literally over 20 years for the blame to be correctly apportioned, and still nobody was actually punished for what they did. I'd be the first to agree that a lot of Liverpool fans have chips on their shoulders that are so large that they practically qualify as moons, but beating LFC fans as a group over the head with their different attitude towards a disaster where many of the guilty went to prison and a disaster where everyone who was actually responsible not only got away scot-free, but were allowed to paint the victims as the perpetrators, is some pretty weak sauce. I've spoken to a lot of fans of other clubs who were going to matches in the '80s, and by far the most common response to Hillsborough is "there, but for the grace of God, go we." There's plenty to criticise in LFC fans without having to reach for the Heysel-Hillsborough straw man. just saying it is never mentioned as its not current news and hillsborough enquiry will get the truth in time and hopefully justice will name the guilty involved and family and loved ones may get closure of sorts ,if you read this thread there is a anti Liverpool bias and no doubt other clubs may have a similar newcastle thread and i dont give a damn frankly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lincoln_imp Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/27/heysel-stadium-disaster-30th-anniversary Genuinely shocked how many people don't know about this. I know plenty do but when the name 'Heysel' is mentioned, quite a few Average Joes don't really cotton on what you're referring to. The sheer fact it was in mainland in Europe and not this country has somehow protected it from much deeper scrutiny. Which is why years of hysterical media coverage over Hillsborough - another horrific tragedy - doesn't sit well with me. Four years later, I hoped that the nightmare at Hillsborough would make Liverpool fans think again, and differently, about Heysel, and campaign for justice in both instances: quite the opposite, Heysel just disappeared altogether. its almost as if people from one country care more about their own country than others. I realise on this forum that is an erroneous position, given the quite frankly disgusting anglophobia on here, but most other countries don't practise the same sense of self loathing that the English do. Its the same reason American military can murder families in their bed and write it off, but when two russians let of a bomb in Chiago, they call it terrorism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Anyone who attended matches in the 80's knows the cause of both disasters Which was ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 At least Phil Neal isn't a total prick - http://www.theguardian.com/football/2005/apr/03/newsstory.sport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Anyone who attended matches in the 80's knows the cause of both disasters Which was ? There's more than one reason or course. Poor policing decisions would be the top one in both cases though. Though those fans who were at Hillsborough without tickets must be desperately pained by their consciences. Edit: Cracking post Wacko . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Is Rodgers in control of transfers at Liverpool? They use a moneyball type database and a transfer committee. Aka a roulette wheel with the hottest transfer targets of 2012 on it. To me it sounded more like they're going through the database of the Football Manager series. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 At least Phil Neal isn't a total prick - http://www.theguardian.com/football/2005/apr/03/newsstory.sport Jesus Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Came into post that. Disgusting. Many a L'pool fan have that type of attitude. The "sides". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Came into post that. Disgusting. Many a L'pool fan have that type of attitude. The "sides". Isn't that what you're doing by pigeonholing a set of fans in exactly the same way? Anyhow, he's a total cunt obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Came into post that. Disgusting. Many a L'pool fan have that type of attitude. The "sides". Isn't that what you're doing by pigeonholing a set of fans in exactly the same way? Anyhow, he's a total c*** obviously. No. I'm simply stating I that I believe some of the opinions he displayed are mirrored a good section of L'pool supporters from that time. The majority of their fans wouldn't have heard much about Heysel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ex-liverpool-captain-phil-neal-insists-5785086 Wonder how much he was paid for that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsted Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I see someone's been at his Wikipedia page. Bet it wasn't like that before the Guardian article was reprinted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Anyone who attended matches in the 80's knows the cause of both disasters Which was ? There's more than one reason or course. Poor policing decisions would be the top one in both cases though. Though those fans who were at Hillsborough without tickets must be desperately pained by their consciences. Edit: Cracking post Wacko . I've seen it twice at Newcastle, Liverpool fans waiting outside with no tickets at 2.55pm and then rushing the turnstiles and forcing the gates to be opened, horrible thing for me to post, but unfortunately true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Rodgers looks like he'll do anything to keep his job including sacking his mates, I remember when Dennis Smith did the same at Sunderland and it didn't turn out well for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Inevitable that he'll go sooner rather than later. He's lost the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Writing on the wall for Rodgers. Players jumping ship, staff being sacked and fans on the turn. Might take until next summer but he will go. They might be in for a horrible season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Writing on the wall for Rodgers. Players jumping ship, staff being sacked and fans on the turn. Might take until next summer but he will go. They might be in for a horrible season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I'm bored with him now. I want to get started on the next one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Enrique not happy http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/aug/12/jose-enrique-liverpool-alienated-balotelli-borini Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Outlaw Pete Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I've never had the time to read all of this thread. I don't know or care if it's appropriate or not. I hate liverpool and their fans nearly as much as i hate mackems Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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