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Thatcher and cuntish cronies need hauling over the coals as well.....probably the only time I wish Thatcher was still alive. The venomous cunt.

 

Government papers get declassified after 30 years, wouldn't be surprised if there are additional revelations about political involvement in 2019.

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(1) Delighted that those responsible for maintaining crowd safety that day who ultimately caused the tragedy now are being held accountable. Any cover up was despicable and anyone who used it for personal  or professional gain should also be brought to account.

 

(2) I'm not comfortable that the behaviour of the crowd has been completely discounted though, you get 50,000+ people in an environment like a semi final then it only takes a small minority to be overly intoxicated and/or acting in a poor manner to create the possibility of a similar scenario where somebody then has to make a decision on how to handle the crowd - another poor decision could not be ruled out here.

 

I guess what I'm saying is although we've come a long way since the 80's, there is still a potentially unhealthy relationship between big sporting events and behaviour. Unless we continue to look at ourselves as fans (and people) and continue to work on this as a whole population then we are running a risk. Discounting any blame from behaviour will check this progress.

 

Overall though, really pleased with the ruling and the thorough dilignece and process that has been taken to get here.

 

The thing is that the jury has spent over 2 years listening to argument and evidence and have decided unanimously that the fans weren't to blame. There will have been fans who'd had a drink or didn't have a tickets but they'll be few in number. The police have drummed this lie from the off and despite this verdict there is still a doubt for some about where all the blame lies. I'm more than happy that the jury has got it right.

 

I was at Newcastle away games twice in 1985 at Hillsborough, the approach to that end was a bottle neck and once in it was cattle run up that tunnel and you couldn't see the terrace beyond, you had no idea how full it was. The 2nd game was on a Boxing Day and a policeman got hold of me accusing me of being drunk. I hadn't had a single drink, we'd come by car and as was normal we'd been stopped as we left the motorway and the police had escorted a number of cars in at a time, telling you where to park. Hillsborough was a great day out but that end of the ground was a constant problem.

 

It's time for the truth to be shouted and for previous lies to be acknowledged and condemned.

 

I dont disagree with that at all, I just think that everyone has a responsibility to assess how we as a nation act around big events to make sure any possibility of future tragedies are minimised - this is regardless of the rightful balme being placed squarely on the authorities here

 

Alcohol, jumping turnstiles, fighting in public before hand etc etc. Absolutely the actions of a small minority but has a huge impact on the safety and enjoyment of the majority

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This has been a long time coming, those poor 96 souls. I don't like LFC, but I admire the families for keep on going. The truth always prevails. I also love how Liverpool as a City keep boycotting the scum. The whole thing was an utter disgrace, everything about it. Tragedy? A tragedy is a young bairn drowning, this is akin to murder! I hope they sue for millions and millions.

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Boris, back in 2004;

 

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:rant:

 

He's a cunt but that's not Johnsons quote, he was editor of the spectator at the time but he didn't write that.

 

 

If he didn't, then he's as much of a cunt for allowing it to be published, fucking blithering idiot.

 

That goes for the two of you , in case you were wondering.

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Even in more recent years I've experienced the twattery of South Yorkshire Police.

They seem to have a bully-like tactic for enforcing the law which inevitably creates hostility.

 

I went to France for Marseille and they were all dressed like Robocop (the French Police) and you couldn't help but feel intimidated and backed into a corner (mind you I was 15). If anything small was done it would have went off big time. It almost did at Benfica a few years back, when a bloke simply tried to take his young son to the toilet and was hit with a baton, as was the kid. Dozens of Newcastle fans started pouncing on the Police and they almost lost control. South Yorkshire Police seemed of similar ilk several years ago. Another bad set I've experienced is Cleveland Police.

 

It's been seen that by using high police presence, but minimal police force, that one of the fiercest derbies in Britain goes by with minimal arrests. The vast majority of fans are there for the football and banter and should be rightly rewarded with this freedom to do so in a fun and positive way. Hopefully, this sparks the re-introduction of standing areas at top flight British football and hopefully a boost in the atmosphere that can be generated from like-minded fans, standing and singing together, akin to Germany.

 

Ultimately, the campaigners have showed real grit and determination and can be proud of their actions. Hopefully, whilst this should never be forgotten, the football world can now move on...with hope in it's heart.

 

RIP you 96 Reds, no fan should ever go to the game and not return.

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German police wear all the riot gear, but they're usually mint.

 

Aye TBF like the French ones did nowt. We did get put in a warehouse with wall to floor perspex and searched 3 times though...

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