54 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Seriously think he'll get a hattrick against Wigan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Watching bits of the second half, that run before the Shola goal... he's going to draw so many players in around him. Gonna be great when we have Jonas, Marveaux and Cabaye all running off him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I think there was a notable off the ball difference after he came on yesterday. I think the most unfortunate thing, as has been said, is that our own players were mesmerised by it as well as the Spurs players. Before Shola's goal, he had 4 players closing him down and nobody making a run near him, it's a bit of give and take. I suppose in a way it's a flattering sign that they think he can do it all on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I think there was a notable off the ball difference after he came on yesterday. I think the most unfortunate thing, as has been said, is that our own players were mesmerised by it as well as the Spurs players. Before Shola's goal, he had 4 players closing him down and nobody making a run near him, it's a bit of give and take. I suppose in a way it's a flattering sign that they think he can do it all on his own. It has been the case with Jonas at times and it certainly is now with Cabaye. Opposition teams target them because they know what threat they pose when given space. Cabaye yesterday and in the first half vs Blackburn was marked out of the game. Playing all three of them will make that sort of tactical approach impossible. Should be good to watch for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Once the crowd see him destroying teams,going past players like they're not there as he did against *everyone,there'll be a bit of leeway given in terms of losing the ball. edit - that's supposed to say Everton, hello Mr Freud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mimifrench Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 There is a video of his game against Spurs on YT (Hatem Ben Arfa Vs Tottenham Hotspur F.C. (H) By Linus) Can someone who saw the game can tell me if it's a fair representation of what he did please ? Obviously, we can see in this video that he holds on the ball much too long, always wants to beat his man, made choices too late... But i reckon, it also shows that he didn't loose his capacity of acceleration and he always seemed to have glue on his feet (as before his injury), which is definitely a good point for the future. There also is another video in which we can see some of the Spurs players salute him before the game while he was speaking with Ba and Marveaux... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Aye, pretty much. Some very decent moments in there though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 That seems like a fairly fair representation to me, yea. Sometimes he did hold onto the ball too much or for too long, but I think that was mainly just because he was trying too hard to impress and make things happen. It was never going to be easy coming on against Spurs in a game like that, but he still did manage to show a few good touches. He'll be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Nice touches just a shame there's no end product. ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 If I was a Wigan fan I'd be shitting myself. They're really crap and even if they double, treble up on HBA, that should leave space for others to exploit. I'd definitely play him, it's the perfect game against the weakest team in the division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ykmkmdd Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 There is a video of his game against Spurs on YT (Hatem Ben Arfa Vs Tottenham Hotspur F.C. (H) By Linus) Glad I watched that, watching the game live I was getting a bit frustrated with him but watching back he did a lot of good stuff in a short time - think I just have such high expectations of him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Will be one of the absolute best players in the EPL if he can avoid any serious injurys, and im not kneejerking. I usually don't say stuff like this, but his natural talent and potential is ridiculous tbh. And yes i've seen him before he got here. Dunno why im defending myself like just thought a few might not agree with me or laugh at me and say it's too early to say, maybe so, but im pretty confident in this tbh. What Wullie says, i'd be shitting myself as well. Probably the worst time of all for Wigan to play us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I don't see him holding onto the ball too much as a negative. It would have been much easier for him to get rid of the ball considering what he's been through over the last 12 months. A lot of people in his position would have realised that they are less likely to get hurt if somebody else has the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I don't see him holding onto the ball too much as a negative. It would have been much easier for him to get rid of the ball considering what he's been through over the last 12 months. A lot of people in his position would have realised that they are less likely to get hurt if somebody else has the ball. didn't think of it that way. good point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mimifrench Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 If I was a Wigan fan I'd be shitting myself. They're really crap and even if they double, treble up on HBA, that should leave space for others to exploit. I'd definitely play him, it's the perfect game against the weakest team in the division. Just hope that they won't put 2 or 3 players on him, and tackle him with a hard way... Really don't understand you, all, sometimes. Yesterday there were some over-reactions in here, saying he was crap, etc. And now, you say he has doing some good stuff But this game is a fair representation of what Ben arfa wil give you all the season : Excitement, disappointment, excitement, frustration, etc... You'll love him or hate him lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Im convinced he will start instead of Best against Wigan. Would be quite harsh on Best imo but the Wigan game is the perfect opportunity for Ben Arfa to get a full 90 minutes under his belt. Plus, like some have already said, Wigan is pretty much the perfect opposition for Ben Arfa to destroy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Give him 70 minutes against Wigan, and put Vuckic on when we're already 4-0 up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest benarfaNUFC Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Ben arfa is not yet a good pace You are severe because it has a rule to its entry skysport 6 Had a big impact, setting up Ameobi for the late equaliser. he wanted to hit to change the course of the joker macth in what he does often Example Ben Arfa vs Real Madrid A UCL10 by adriano89.wmv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I was thinking exactly the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 He's not in the reserve squad for tomorrow nights game with Liverpool (no Marveaux either). Think they both should be playing, HBA needs some match fitness, i don't think he's ready to start a league game yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Hopefully a sign that both will play(/start) against Wigan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 He's not in the reserve squad for tomorrow nights game with Liverpool (no Marveaux either). Think they both should be playing, HBA needs some match fitness, i don't think he's ready to start a league game yet. Hmmm, that is quite odd. Hopefully it is the case of what taxfree has said above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Ben arfa is not yet a good pace You are severe because it has a rule to its entry skysport 6 Had a big impact, setting up Ameobi for the late equaliser. he wanted to hit to change the course of the joker macth in what he does often Example Ben Arfa vs Real Madrid A UCL10 by adriano89.wmv Could have sworn it was Ryan Taylor who got the assist, not skysport 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Ben arfa is not yet a good pace You are severe because it has a rule to its entry skysport 6 Had a big impact, setting up Ameobi for the late equaliser. he wanted to hit to change the course of the joker macth in what he does often Example Ben Arfa vs Real Madrid A UCL10 by adriano89.wmv Could have sworn it was Ryan Taylor who got the assist, not skysport 6. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Ben arfa is not yet a good pace You are severe because it has a rule to its entry skysport 6 Had a big impact, setting up Ameobi for the late equaliser. he wanted to hit to change the course of the joker macth in what he does often Example Ben Arfa vs Real Madrid A UCL10 by adriano89.wmv Could have sworn it was Ryan Taylor who got the assist, not skysport 6. could have sworn it came off tiote to shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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