David28 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Valencia is so over-rated, he has one trick come in then burst diagonally to the by line. Scholes was impressive but only because we let him play. Harper 5- Should have stopped the first and third imo, looks very laboured in goal, and like he knows he can't be dislodged Perch 4.5- First half was very much "You're not in Kansas anymore Dorothy" and he was really s***, second half he picked up a bit. There's potential. Coloccini 6- Has improved since last time, and I think will be very solid this year, made a great tackle on Rooney when he tried to nutmeg him to go clean through Williamson 6- I like him a lot, he's proof you don't need pace to defend, reads the game well, and solid in the air I think he will calm Colo down too. Jose 6- His play out from the back stuff was shown up tonight but still a great defender. Routledge 5- Infuriating at times with his 'kick and run after it' approach hopefully with more support and attacking minded formations he will flourish. Barton 5.5- The best centre mid on the pitch, but then that's not really saying much, he's going to be key this season. *Gulp* Smith 4- Sadly his days were numbered when we got promoted, you need more in this league than an ability to charge people down and give your all to get a starting place. Nolan 4.5- Honeymoon period, long gone. This isn't Preston away this is the big game, and when he should have stood up to be counted he instead was nowhere to be found. For that reason he's not captain material, I'd rather we gave it to Barton. Jonas 5- Clearly a bit sluggish, but had moments of good dribbling, it's just that final ball, we know you can do it! Kind of. Carroll 6.5- As one of his biggest critics I will be first to say, he was fantastic. Doesn't get a 7 because of that header ,but other than that, I get the feeling he's going to be a real handful for teams. We just need a better supporting cast. Ameobi - Can't remember much. Xisco 5- Game was long gone, but he looked good cutting inside, and seems more mobile than Shola. Aye, agree with most of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Not sure Barton was better than Paul Scholes like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Barton was better in possession than the rest of our so called midfielders, but the game mostly passed him by. He was strolling at a gentle pace while Man U players were bombing past him. Jonas and Routledge were disappointing but it's difficult to know whether it's because they're mediocre players or because there's no midfield support. Probably a bit of both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Barton was better in possession than the rest of our so called midfielders, but the game mostly passed him by. He was strolling at a gentle pace while Man U players were bombing past him. Jonas and Routledge were disappointing but it's difficult to know whether it's because they're mediocre players or because there's no midfield support. Probably a bit of both. I think they could both be effective against some of the bottom tier teams, especially with Routledge's pace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Barton better in possession?! Didn't realise he even had any possession. Was too busy giving it to Man United. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Barton better in possession?! Didn't realise he even had any possession. Was too busy giving it to Man United. Yep. Woeful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Barton better in possession?! Didn't realise he even had any possession. Was too busy giving it to Man United. I was talking in relative terms to the rest of his midfield pals. Obviously he was shite by any half decent standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steggy Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Irrelevant but our fans were fucking good last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steggy Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Irrelevant but our fans were fucking good last night. That's not irrelevant at all, it amaze me how 1900 Newcastle fans can sound louder then 72.000+ of the Manu ones. Of course not all of them Manu fans are shouting at the same time but it was awesome to listen to it on the telly. Even when we were 2-0 down, the away end was still loud which made me happy as i thought it would die down in the second half after we conceded. Also felt proud at the end as "We love Newcastle, we do" was sung for ages as the players applauded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Irrelevant but our fans were fucking good last night. That's not irrelevant at all, it amaze me how 1900 Newcastle fans can sound louder then 72.000+ of the Manu ones. Of course not all of them Manu fans are shouting at the same time but it was awesome to listen to it on the telly. It was class in the pub in London. A load of people in Man Utd gear sitting around, only me and my mate in black and white, but the noise coming out of the TV was brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I think we can be relatively pleased with our performance last night. To me however, the biggest issue was the completely one-dimensional, hopeless 4-5-1 we were playing. Nolan is going to do nothing this season, playing in that position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2010/08/17/kevin-nolan-in-battle-to-be-fit-for-aston-villa-72703-27077398/ For what it's worth, a possible excuse for Nolan's performance. Article doesn't say whether he's been concussed for the past 18 months, but still, I suppose we should bear it in mind for last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Actually yeah, remember him getting a dunt earlier on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I think we can be relatively pleased with our performance last night. To me however, the biggest issue was the completely one-dimensional, hopeless 4-5-1 we were playing. Nolan is going to do nothing this season, playing in that position. What did you expect? We saw it numerous times last season against far, far worse opposition. I honestly think people have forgotten just how bang average we were for long spells of games last season, especially away from home. Long ball, no invention, little drive and a lack of anybody willing to grab the game by the scruff of the neck. All that's changed since then personnel-wise is Barton, who in fairness has looked capable of picking a pass and who definitely doesn't hide away from the ball. If we're going to put Guthrie in for Smith then things should look better again. Despite that though, this season is going to be eye-gougingly bad in terms of footballing quality if we don't add some pace and trickery to the midfield, which thankfully it looks like the people who matter have realised. That was Manchester United in third gear, at best, last night. They strolled it. A note on the fans too, the "Geordie Vuvuzela" sounded mint on the TV. Thought they were great, as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Barton better in possession?! Didn't realise he even had any possession. Was too busy giving it to Man United. Yep. Woeful. Woeful comments yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2010/08/17/kevin-nolan-in-battle-to-be-fit-for-aston-villa-72703-27077398/ For what it's worth, a possible excuse for Nolan's performance. Article doesn't say whether he's been concussed for the past 18 months, but still, I suppose we should bear it in mind for last night. That's probably from when he bumped heads with Fletcher (?) when they both jumped for the ball. That was 30 or so minutes in, but he was shit from the start so I'd say no, that's not an excuse for his performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 think it's from when vidic elbowed the back of his head. amazed we let him stay on that long if he really did have concussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Actually yeah, remember him getting a dunt earlier on. Aye, they put a bit of ''wax'' on him according to Alan Smith. I completely agree Rich, we were anonymous going forward at times last season and relied on our usually solid back line to get us through games. The thing is, we can't afford to do that this season. We simply have to score goals to stay up - and with the tactics we played last night, we won't be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 We can take more positives than expected from the game, such as our defending (not including Perch). Once again though our problem is our midfield sits so far back and is so static we invite pressure. 3-0 was a fair result but it was far from a disaster. Did you go last night btw? Sure I saw you on the tele. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Barton better in possession?! Didn't realise he even had any possession. Was too busy giving it to Man United. Yep. Woeful. SSN had some nimrod going through the OPTA stats from last night to demonstrate how good Scholes was, and he was class btw, and our best passer (completed passes) was Barton with about 57 iirc. Man Utd had 4 or 5 players who completed more passes but Barton was our top performer. Found it difficult to believe but it was the official stats they used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Barton better in possession?! Didn't realise he even had any possession. Was too busy giving it to Man United. Yep. Woeful. SSN had some nimrod going through the OPTA stats from last night to demonstrate how good Scholes was, and he was class btw, and our best passer (completed passes) was Barton with about 57 iirc. Man Utd had 4 or 5 players who completed more passes but Barton was our top performer. Found it difficult to believe but it was the official stats they used. Thought Barton did alreet myself. Kept it ticking over in the middle when we had the ball. Lacked urgency though at times although that could've been due to lack of options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Barton better in possession?! Didn't realise he even had any possession. Was too busy giving it to Man United. Yep. Woeful. SSN had some nimrod going through the OPTA stats from last night to demonstrate how good Scholes was, and he was class btw, and our best passer (completed passes) was Barton with about 57 iirc. Man Utd had 4 or 5 players who completed more passes but Barton was our top performer. Found it difficult to believe but it was the official stats they used. Thought Barton did alreet myself. Kept it ticking over in the middle when we had the ball. Lacked urgency though at times although that could've been due to lack of options. Seemed to give the ball away loads whilst watching the game but he was always involved and didn't hide. He was comfortably better than Nolan and more mobile and involved than Smith. Would love to see how many passes Gutierrez completed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffers09 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 What a crazy night i had got pulled out at half time by a few stewards telling me to come with them next thing i know im being accused of throwing coins on the pitch(which i didnt ) ended up getting arrested and being in a cell untill about 4am then getting released great policing that didnt have a clue were i was untill i found a travelodge near the ground ending up chatting to a few lads who said i could crash in there bathroom for the night.Plus there was no bar staff at the the place so ended up raidng the fridge and getting smashed. well thats the short version of my story anyway could probably write a book on it if i was to go in to detail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 What a crazy night i had got pulled out at half time by a few stewards telling me to come with them next thing i know im being accused of throwing coins on the pitch(which i didnt ) ended up getting arrested and being in a cell untill about 4am then getting released great policing that didnt have a clue were i was untill i found a travelodge near the ground ending up chatting to a few lads who said i could crash in there bathroom for the night.Plus there was no bar staff at the the place so ended up raidng the fridge and getting smashed. well thats the short version of my story anyway could probably right a book on it if i was to go in to detail unorthodox match report, i'll give you that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 "Right a book" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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