Heron Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 On another occasion we would have kept the ball and played it out superbly as we have done throughout this season. We can't complain too much about it tbf. The real problem was Harpers positioning imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 I like the desire to play from the back tbh. Once you start hoofing it, it's easy to get into the habit of taking the easy route every time you have the ball at the back. I'd rather take the risk of slipping a few goals while playing decent football, personally. Surely it's just best to play which ever way fits the situation. We shouldn't be stubborn to a philosophy, yesterday was an example when the ball should've been booted away. Of course, but how often would Tiote actually lose the ball in that situation? The examples of that across the season have been so isolated that you could probably name each one off the top of your head... Thus to Coloccini it probably seemed a safe pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Of course, but how often would Tiote actually lose the ball in that situation? The examples of that across the season have been so isolated that you could probably name each one off the top of your head... Thus to Coloccini it probably seemed a safe pass. When we play it out from the back and it works it’s fine, when it doesn't work we should have hoofed it. I'd love to know how any of our players are supposed to knew if it's going to work or not. We have to either accept that at times it will go wrong or we tell them to hoof it every time and give away possession more often than we currently do. Personally, I’m willing to accept that every so often we’ll make a mistake but more often than not it will work to our advantage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Of course, but how often would Tiote actually lose the ball in that situation? The examples of that across the season have been so isolated that you could probably name each one off the top of your head... Thus to Coloccini it probably seemed a safe pass. When we play it out from the back and it works its fine, when it doesn't work we should have hoofed it. I'd love to know how any of our players are supposed to knew if it's going to work or not. We have to either accept that at times it will go wrong or we tell them to hoof it every time and give away possession more often than we currently do. Personally, Im willing to accept that every so often well make a mistake but more often than not it will work to our advantage. Absolutely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 You play either way depending on the situation. Don't see how it's that hard to grasp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Of course, but how often would Tiote actually lose the ball in that situation? The examples of that across the season have been so isolated that you could probably name each one off the top of your head... Thus to Coloccini it probably seemed a safe pass. When we play it out from the back and it works its fine, when it doesn't work we should have hoofed it. I'd love to know how any of our players are supposed to knew if it's going to work or not. We have to either accept that at times it will go wrong or we tell them to hoof it every time and give away possession more often than we currently do. Personally, Im willing to accept that every so often well make a mistake but more often than not it will work to our advantage. Agreed. But when we play it out of defense, and it works 90% of the time, it's in the full-back position. That was bang centre, thirty yards from goal, with four Bolton players in and around the area. Common sense should have come into play and Colo should have just booted it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevo Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 He was poor yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 He was poor yesterday. No he wasnt, dont be silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevo Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 He was poor yesterday. No he wasnt, dont be silly. Yes he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Yes he was. He wasn't poor, he wasn't up to his usual high standard, that hardly makes him poor for that game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Of course, but how often would Tiote actually lose the ball in that situation? The examples of that across the season have been so isolated that you could probably name each one off the top of your head... Thus to Coloccini it probably seemed a safe pass. When we play it out from the back and it works its fine, when it doesn't work we should have hoofed it. I'd love to know how any of our players are supposed to knew if it's going to work or not. We have to either accept that at times it will go wrong or we tell them to hoof it every time and give away possession more often than we currently do. Personally, Im willing to accept that every so often well make a mistake but more often than not it will work to our advantage. Agreed. But when we play it out of defense, and it works 90% of the time, it's in the full-back position. That was bang centre, thirty yards from goal, with four Bolton players in and around the area. Common sense should have come into play and Colo should have just booted it. It's easy saying that with the benefit of hindsight though, but again, that same ball is played from Coloccini to Tiote time and time again, and to good effect since it allows us to build more patiently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 You've got to criticise all the players involved in the Bolton goal equally imo. Colo shouldn't have passed it to Tiote, Tiote should have hoofed it, Enrique (I think) should have been on his toes and Harper should dive instead of doing a good impression of a tree being felled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 You've got to criticise all the players involved in the Bolton goal equally imo. Colo shouldn't have passed it to Tiote, Tiote should have hoofed it, Enrique (I think) should have been on his toes and Harper should dive instead of doing a good impression of a tree being felled. and Pardew should have tried to sign Sturridge in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 You've got to criticise all the players involved in the Bolton goal equally imo. Colo shouldn't have passed it to Tiote, Tiote should have hoofed it, Enrique (I think) should have been on his toes and Harper should dive instead of doing a good impression of a tree being felled. and Pardew should have tried to sign Sturridge in January. The more I think about it the more I realise Sturridge was there for the taking. We just had to tell Liverpool that we would only sell them Carroll if we got Sturridge permanently. Liverpool could have then pressured Chelsea and we'd have got our man or at very least scuppered all the other moves. Whether you point the finger though at Pardew or someone else is another debate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cheick-Tiote-The-Facts/154855451235703 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Of course, but how often would Tiote actually lose the ball in that situation? The examples of that across the season have been so isolated that you could probably name each one off the top of your head... Thus to Coloccini it probably seemed a safe pass. When we play it out from the back and it works its fine, when it doesn't work we should have hoofed it. I'd love to know how any of our players are supposed to knew if it's going to work or not. We have to either accept that at times it will go wrong or we tell them to hoof it every time and give away possession more often than we currently do. Personally, Im willing to accept that every so often well make a mistake but more often than not it will work to our advantage. Agreed. But when we play it out of defense, and it works 90% of the time, it's in the full-back position. That was bang centre, thirty yards from goal, with four Bolton players in and around the area. Common sense should have come into play and Colo should have just booted it. It's easy saying that with the benefit of hindsight though, but again, that same ball is played from Coloccini to Tiote time and time again, and to good effect since it allows us to build more patiently. If it came off not a single person in the match thread would've been going 'that was very risky. Should've hoofed it'. It would've just been a plethora of ' I love those 2'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Tiote was class agains Bolton. He had a dip in the second half, but that was after the red card and Best and Loven started to feel tired. And Nolan is not particular helpful either. Iow he could not find one single passing alternative. But he was back to him old self after the substitutions..Then we had movement again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 see the article in the mail today, recons he rejected a deadline day move to chelsea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Wonder if the club accepted a bid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Yesterday it was him knocking back Real Madrid, today he knocked back Chelski.... just paper bollocks probably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I doubt there even was a bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Faint whiff of propaganda about those stories. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I love the smell of propaganda in the morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Yesterday it was him knocking back Real Madrid, today he knocked back Chelski.... just paper bollocks probably. Could be bullocks, but Tiote could have handed in a transfer request. That would have dropped his price.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Wonder if the club accepted a bid? Yeah, making his debut this weekend apparantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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