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Colback protects the defence every bit as 'well' as Tiote and actually occasionally gives you something going forward. While Tiote's in our midfield we'll always be liable to fail to control the game at home and get utterly dicked away.

 

I know we all have our favourites and players we hate, but that's just blatantly untrue.

 

Bang on. The only way Colback can protect the defence effectively is if we sit deep, if we play a pressing game he is too slow to stop the runners in an open game. Both Tiote and Abeid are far better equipped physically to do the defensive role. I'd have Abeid ahead of both Tiote and Colback personally.

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Colback protects the defence every bit as 'well' as Tiote and actually occasionally gives you something going forward. While Tiote's in our midfield we'll always be liable to fail to control the game at home and get utterly dicked away.

Nah.

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Colback protects the defence every bit as 'well' as Tiote and actually occasionally gives you something going forward. While Tiote's in our midfield we'll always be liable to fail to control the game at home and get utterly dicked away.

Nah.

 

Even if you don't rate Colback, it's obviously Tiote has been terrible for at least 18 months now. Can't remember his last good performance.

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Colback protects the defence every bit as 'well' as Tiote and actually occasionally gives you something going forward. While Tiote's in our midfield we'll always be liable to fail to control the game at home and get utterly dicked away.

Nah.

 

Even if you don't rate Colback, it's obviously Tiote has been terrible for at least 18 months now. Can't remember his last good performance.

He was good when he came back in for a few games this season IIRC

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Anyone who thinks Tiote is vaguely competent at protecting the defence is thick as fuck, like. He's shit, and this should've been blatantly obvious for some time. Fortunately I think our manager already knows it.

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To be honest, the discussion is pointless as none of our so called " defensive midfielders" are good enough.

When Bigirama was in the squad he was better than Tiote, then he had a falling out with Pardew.
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He's a liability and has been for quite sometime, he played reasonably well when he took the armband for a month or so a while back but in general he's regressed since the 5th. Saying that a few of them have - Krul, Cisse, Colocinni etc have all gone backwards in the last 3 years.

 

Proper coaching (McClaren's strength by all accounts) could possibly sort a few of them out but the "that'll do" attitude has become ingrained and it'll be difficult to shift.

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Tiote can cover the pitch effectively. That's something at least 2 of our other central CM midfielders can't do.

 

Shame that he's always out of position he's covering the pitch so effectively.

 

I don't disagree. But you would hope he could be better in that regard under a better manager. He wasn't like that before.

 

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There was an injury problem mentioned in one of the NUTV videos from the first week or two of preseason.  I'd assume he's still not fit, given the length of his layoff.

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unless the site i'm looking at is wrong this lad has made 113 PL starts (5 subs) in the 5 seasons he's been at the club so being generous he's managed to play just less than 24 league games per season on average

 

based on that i'd be thinking about canning him even if he performed when he did play, which he doesn't

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We really are crying out for a good solid defensive midfielder, if chieck can reproduce some of his top performances we will have a solid midfield. I am sure Mclaren and Co will tell him to recover the ball and pass on simply and quickly if he wants to become the player he was again...

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