Shola Ameobi

[midds]

If there's any truth in this then it's another massive blow to Pardew. He's been publically humiliated into cowering into his home dugout and now he's asked for a player he wants to be given a new contract and the board have gone "errr, nor like."

 

Untenable. He's just hanging on now, the wall-pushers will be the ones to knock the cunt out.

[Guest neesy111]

Remember when Dean Saunders was a our striking coach?

 

[TRon]

If there's any truth in this then it's another massive blow to Pardew. He's been publically humiliated into cowering into his home dugout and now he's asked for a player he wants to be given a new contract and the board have gone "errr, nor like."

 

Untenable. He's just hanging on now, the wall-pushers will be the ones to knock the cunt out.

 

It's going to be a glorious day.

[Cajun]

I honestly wouldn't mind Shola staying on if his role was just a good lad to have around, I think he is probably a good influence amongst the squad. The fact he would still be getting a lot of game time is the ridiculous thing.

 

I hope he never returns in any capacity whatsoever.

 

I really cannot begrudge the lad at all, I think he believes he is good enough and has put his body through a lot of pain to be available. His heart is in the right place and he comes across quite intelligent despite what you see from him on the pitch.

 

I would love him to stay on as a coach if he has the capabilities. I know a lot think he should have fucked off if he wanted the best for the club but personally I don't think it would have changed a thing, we wouldn't have turned around and said "well Shola's gone, better replace him with a top class striker", we would have ended up with someone of the same ability or worse.

 

The lad has been handed an opportunity any of us would have taken and has tried his best, unfortunately that often hasn't been good enough but to repeat the old cliché he doesn't pick himself.

 

You want Shola to coach our strikers? Honestly?

 

If he is good enough then why not?

 

I'd assume because we've all seen his ability as a striker?

 

Imagine Shola trying to tell Remy (yeah, I know) how to improve

 

I honestly wouldn't mind Shola staying on if his role was just a good lad to have around, I think he is probably a good influence amongst the squad. The fact he would still be getting a lot of game time is the ridiculous thing.

 

I hope he never returns in any capacity whatsoever.

 

I really cannot begrudge the lad at all, I think he believes he is good enough and has put his body through a lot of pain to be available. His heart is in the right place and he comes across quite intelligent despite what you see from him on the pitch.

 

I would love him to stay on as a coach if he has the capabilities. I know a lot think he should have f***ed off if he wanted the best for the club but personally I don't think it would have changed a thing, we wouldn't have turned around and said "well Shola's gone, better replace him with a top class striker", we would have ended up with someone of the same ability or worse.

 

The lad has been handed an opportunity any of us would have taken and has tried his best, unfortunately that often hasn't been good enough but to repeat the old cliché he doesn't pick himself.

 

You want Shola to coach our strikers? Honestly?

 

If he is good enough then why not?

 

He's not.

 

Imagine Shola telling our kids how to strike the ball cleanly

 

If any of that was relevant Beardsley would be doing Mourinho's job and Mourinho would still be translating.

 

Shola has probably played more games at a higher level than Mourinho, Ferguson and Wenger combined. As I said, IF he has the capabilities then I would love him to stay on as a coach. He is a local lad who has the club in his heart.

[r0cafella]

I honestly wouldn't mind Shola staying on if his role was just a good lad to have around, I think he is probably a good influence amongst the squad. The fact he would still be getting a lot of game time is the ridiculous thing.

 

I hope he never returns in any capacity whatsoever.

 

I really cannot begrudge the lad at all, I think he believes he is good enough and has put his body through a lot of pain to be available. His heart is in the right place and he comes across quite intelligent despite what you see from him on the pitch.

 

I would love him to stay on as a coach if he has the capabilities. I know a lot think he should have f***ed off if he wanted the best for the club but personally I don't think it would have changed a thing, we wouldn't have turned around and said "well Shola's gone, better replace him with a top class striker", we would have ended up with someone of the same ability or worse.

 

The lad has been handed an opportunity any of us would have taken and has tried his best, unfortunately that often hasn't been good enough but to repeat the old cliché he doesn't pick himself.

 

You want Shola to coach our strikers? Honestly?

 

If he is good enough then why not?

 

I'd assume because we've all seen his ability as a striker?

 

Imagine Shola trying to tell Remy (yeah, I know) how to improve

 

I honestly wouldn't mind Shola staying on if his role was just a good lad to have around, I think he is probably a good influence amongst the squad. The fact he would still be getting a lot of game time is the ridiculous thing.

 

I hope he never returns in any capacity whatsoever.

 

I really cannot begrudge the lad at all, I think he believes he is good enough and has put his body through a lot of pain to be available. His heart is in the right place and he comes across quite intelligent despite what you see from him on the pitch.

 

I would love him to stay on as a coach if he has the capabilities. I know a lot think he should have f***ed off if he wanted the best for the club but personally I don't think it would have changed a thing, we wouldn't have turned around and said "well Shola's gone, better replace him with a top class striker", we would have ended up with someone of the same ability or worse.

 

The lad has been handed an opportunity any of us would have taken and has tried his best, unfortunately that often hasn't been good enough but to repeat the old cliché he doesn't pick himself.

 

You want Shola to coach our strikers? Honestly?

 

If he is good enough then why not?

 

He's not.

 

Imagine Shola telling our kids how to strike the ball cleanly

 

If any of that was relevant Beardsley would be doing Mourinho's job and Mourinho would still be translating.

 

Shola has probably played more games at a higher level than Mourinho, Ferguson and Wenger combined. As I said, if he has the capabilities then I would love him to stay on as a coach. He is a local lad who has the club in his heart.

 

He's not played at a high level to any sort of standard.

 

Also why are we comparing management with coaching? The 3 you mentioned all command respect either through fear, achievement or dearth of knowledge does Shola?

[Shearergol]

I honestly wouldn't mind Shola staying on if his role was just a good lad to have around, I think he is probably a good influence amongst the squad. The fact he would still be getting a lot of game time is the ridiculous thing.

 

I hope he never returns in any capacity whatsoever.

 

I really cannot begrudge the lad at all, I think he believes he is good enough and has put his body through a lot of pain to be available. His heart is in the right place and he comes across quite intelligent despite what you see from him on the pitch.

 

I would love him to stay on as a coach if he has the capabilities. I know a lot think he should have fucked off if he wanted the best for the club but personally I don't think it would have changed a thing, we wouldn't have turned around and said "well Shola's gone, better replace him with a top class striker", we would have ended up with someone of the same ability or worse.

 

The lad has been handed an opportunity any of us would have taken and has tried his best, unfortunately that often hasn't been good enough but to repeat the old cliché he doesn't pick himself.

 

You want Shola to coach our strikers? Honestly?

 

If he is good enough then why not?

 

I'd assume because we've all seen his ability as a striker?

 

Imagine Shola trying to tell Remy (yeah, I know) how to improve

 

I honestly wouldn't mind Shola staying on if his role was just a good lad to have around, I think he is probably a good influence amongst the squad. The fact he would still be getting a lot of game time is the ridiculous thing.

 

I hope he never returns in any capacity whatsoever.

 

I really cannot begrudge the lad at all, I think he believes he is good enough and has put his body through a lot of pain to be available. His heart is in the right place and he comes across quite intelligent despite what you see from him on the pitch.

 

I would love him to stay on as a coach if he has the capabilities. I know a lot think he should have f***ed off if he wanted the best for the club but personally I don't think it would have changed a thing, we wouldn't have turned around and said "well Shola's gone, better replace him with a top class striker", we would have ended up with someone of the same ability or worse.

 

The lad has been handed an opportunity any of us would have taken and has tried his best, unfortunately that often hasn't been good enough but to repeat the old cliché he doesn't pick himself.

 

You want Shola to coach our strikers? Honestly?

 

If he is good enough then why not?

 

He's not.

 

Imagine Shola telling our kids how to strike the ball cleanly

 

If any of that was relevant Beardsley would be doing Mourinho's job and Mourinho would still be translating.

 

Shola has probably played more games at a higher level than Mourinho, Ferguson and Wenger combined. As I said, IF he has the capabilities then I would love him to stay on as a coach. He is a local lad who has the club in his heart.

 

Nonsense. What you're saying is because Shola is Shola he should be given a chance to try his hand at coaching. How about we find coaches who actually have ability?

[Cajun]

I honestly wouldn't mind Shola staying on if his role was just a good lad to have around, I think he is probably a good influence amongst the squad. The fact he would still be getting a lot of game time is the ridiculous thing.

 

I hope he never returns in any capacity whatsoever.

 

I really cannot begrudge the lad at all, I think he believes he is good enough and has put his body through a lot of pain to be available. His heart is in the right place and he comes across quite intelligent despite what you see from him on the pitch.

 

I would love him to stay on as a coach if he has the capabilities. I know a lot think he should have f***ed off if he wanted the best for the club but personally I don't think it would have changed a thing, we wouldn't have turned around and said "well Shola's gone, better replace him with a top class striker", we would have ended up with someone of the same ability or worse.

 

The lad has been handed an opportunity any of us would have taken and has tried his best, unfortunately that often hasn't been good enough but to repeat the old cliché he doesn't pick himself.

 

You want Shola to coach our strikers? Honestly?

 

If he is good enough then why not?

 

I'd assume because we've all seen his ability as a striker?

 

Imagine Shola trying to tell Remy (yeah, I know) how to improve

 

I honestly wouldn't mind Shola staying on if his role was just a good lad to have around, I think he is probably a good influence amongst the squad. The fact he would still be getting a lot of game time is the ridiculous thing.

 

I hope he never returns in any capacity whatsoever.

 

I really cannot begrudge the lad at all, I think he believes he is good enough and has put his body through a lot of pain to be available. His heart is in the right place and he comes across quite intelligent despite what you see from him on the pitch.

 

I would love him to stay on as a coach if he has the capabilities. I know a lot think he should have f***ed off if he wanted the best for the club but personally I don't think it would have changed a thing, we wouldn't have turned around and said "well Shola's gone, better replace him with a top class striker", we would have ended up with someone of the same ability or worse.

 

The lad has been handed an opportunity any of us would have taken and has tried his best, unfortunately that often hasn't been good enough but to repeat the old cliché he doesn't pick himself.

 

You want Shola to coach our strikers? Honestly?

 

If he is good enough then why not?

 

He's not.

 

Imagine Shola telling our kids how to strike the ball cleanly

 

If any of that was relevant Beardsley would be doing Mourinho's job and Mourinho would still be translating.

 

Shola has probably played more games at a higher level than Mourinho, Ferguson and Wenger combined. As I said, if he has the capabilities then I would love him to stay on as a coach. He is a local lad who has the club in his heart.

 

He's not played at a high level to any sort of standard.

 

Also why are we comparing management with coaching? The 3 you mentioned all command respect either through fear, achievement or dearth of knowledge does Shola?

 

Neither of us know the answer to that question. You would hope any decent manager had some capability to coach and it's hard to tell how good a coach is when at the end of the day the manager has the final say/instruction.

 

You've basically taken Shola's ability as a player and decided he could never do anything else in football which is a ridiculous assumption. Especially as a clearly clarified I would be happy for Shola to be a coach if he was capable.

[Troll]

I honestly wouldn't mind Shola staying on if his role was just a good lad to have around, I think he is probably a good influence amongst the squad. The fact he would still be getting a lot of game time is the ridiculous thing.

 

Give him Terry Mac's old job.

[r0cafella]

I honestly wouldn't mind Shola staying on if his role was just a good lad to have around, I think he is probably a good influence amongst the squad. The fact he would still be getting a lot of game time is the ridiculous thing.

 

I hope he never returns in any capacity whatsoever.

 

I really cannot begrudge the lad at all, I think he believes he is good enough and has put his body through a lot of pain to be available. His heart is in the right place and he comes across quite intelligent despite what you see from him on the pitch.

 

I would love him to stay on as a coach if he has the capabilities. I know a lot think he should have f***ed off if he wanted the best for the club but personally I don't think it would have changed a thing, we wouldn't have turned around and said "well Shola's gone, better replace him with a top class striker", we would have ended up with someone of the same ability or worse.

 

The lad has been handed an opportunity any of us would have taken and has tried his best, unfortunately that often hasn't been good enough but to repeat the old cliché he doesn't pick himself.

 

You want Shola to coach our strikers? Honestly?

 

If he is good enough then why not?

 

I'd assume because we've all seen his ability as a striker?

 

Imagine Shola trying to tell Remy (yeah, I know) how to improve

 

I honestly wouldn't mind Shola staying on if his role was just a good lad to have around, I think he is probably a good influence amongst the squad. The fact he would still be getting a lot of game time is the ridiculous thing.

 

I hope he never returns in any capacity whatsoever.

 

I really cannot begrudge the lad at all, I think he believes he is good enough and has put his body through a lot of pain to be available. His heart is in the right place and he comes across quite intelligent despite what you see from him on the pitch.

 

I would love him to stay on as a coach if he has the capabilities. I know a lot think he should have f***ed off if he wanted the best for the club but personally I don't think it would have changed a thing, we wouldn't have turned around and said "well Shola's gone, better replace him with a top class striker", we would have ended up with someone of the same ability or worse.

 

The lad has been handed an opportunity any of us would have taken and has tried his best, unfortunately that often hasn't been good enough but to repeat the old cliché he doesn't pick himself.

 

You want Shola to coach our strikers? Honestly?

 

If he is good enough then why not?

 

He's not.

 

Imagine Shola telling our kids how to strike the ball cleanly

 

If any of that was relevant Beardsley would be doing Mourinho's job and Mourinho would still be translating.

 

Shola has probably played more games at a higher level than Mourinho, Ferguson and Wenger combined. As I said, IF he has the capabilities then I would love him to stay on as a coach. He is a local lad who has the club in his heart.

 

Nonsense. What you're saying is because Shola is Shola he should be given a chance to try his hand at coaching. How about we find coaches who actually have ability?

 

Far too novel for this club.

 

Depressing thing is Cajuns misguided thoughts are now accurate than common sense where this club is concerned

[TaylorJ_01]

Shola coach only thing he should coach is 'how to play football like Anne Widdecombe'.

[Guest neesy111]

I'd rather we actually hired coaches on their ability.

[Cajun]

I'm starting to understand Golfmag's position, some people either can't read or refuse to comprehend a sentence because a certain person has been mentioned

[r0cafella]

What could Shola actually teach anyone?

 

If he does have anything to teach why hasn't he applied it to his own game?

[Shearergol]

I'm starting to understand Golfmag's position, some people either can't read or refuse to comprehend a sentence because a certain person has been mentioned

 

You're saying that IF Shola has coaching ability, he should be made a coach at the club.

 

How exactly will we know if he has, without making him a coach first?

[r0cafella]

I'm starting to understand Golfmag's position, some people either can't read or refuse to comprehend a sentence because a certain person has been mentioned

 

The guy who said we didn't understand but refused to enlighten us?

[Cajun]

What could Shola actually teach anyone?

 

If he does have anything to teach why hasn't he applied it to his own game?

 

Why hasn't Beardsley? He was an absolute genius as a footballer.

[r0cafella]

What could Shola actually teach anyone?

 

If he does have anything to teach why hasn't he applied it to his own game?

 

Why hasn't Beardsley? He was an absolute genius as a footballer.

 

I'd like to think he does? Also until recently all he did was over see development which implies he had a less hands on roll

[Klaus]

A lot of top managers and coaches have been pretty average/gash footballers and vice versa. You will never know how well they are going to do in that role, until you give them the chance.

[Shearergol]

A lot of top managers and coaches have been pretty average/gash footballers and vice versa. You will never know how well they are going to do in that role, until you give them the chance.

 

But why should we? If he wants to be a coach there are plenty of league two clubs looking for coaches.

[Klaus]

A lot of top managers and coaches have been pretty average/gash footballers and vice versa. You will never know how well they are going to do in that role, until you give them the chance.

 

But why should we? If he wants to be a coach there are plenty of league two clubs looking for coaches.

I never said we should. But he already knows the club, staff and players here so it would be a good place for him to start, if he did want to gain experience in coaching.

[Shearergol]

A lot of top managers and coaches have been pretty average/gash footballers and vice versa. You will never know how well they are going to do in that role, until you give them the chance.

 

But why should we? If he wants to be a coach there are plenty of league two clubs looking for coaches.

I never said we should. But he already knows the club, staff and players here so it would be a good place for him to start, if he did want to gain experience in coaching.

 

Wow. Just wow.

[Cajun]

A lot of top managers and coaches have been pretty average/gash footballers and vice versa. You will never know how well they are going to do in that role, until you give them the chance.

 

But why should we? If he wants to be a coach there are plenty of league two clubs looking for coaches.

I never said we should. But he already knows the club, staff and players here so it would be a good place for him to start, if he did want to gain experience in coaching.

 

Stop being remotely sensible you moron, he's a shit footballer so will never make anything of himself after his playing career!

[Jordan]

Thread title  :frantic: :frantic: :frantic:

[midds]

I'd like to think we'd move away from the old "seems like a decent lad, give him another role at the club and see if he's any good". Much prefer it if we went out and hired a few good coaches with a bit of pedigree.

[TaylorJ_01]

Jobs for the boys is exactly what we need to get away from. It's precisely why we're in this mess.