Shay Given (now retired)

[magorific]

Based on total conjecture as per.

 

how on earth do we know he was motivated by cash? I'm sure his head could've been turned a hundred times during his 2001-06 prime. There are frankly so many reasons an almost 33-year-old keeper would've left NUFC for MCFC at that point cash would probably be an afterthought to even the most ardent mercenary.

 

yes, there's a lot of conjecture on your part, it's true but don't beat yourself up over it

 

Quiet, ultra-professional 30something performs consistently as well as any other keeper in the league over more than a decade. Wins f**k all. Sees SBR go. Sees GS, GR and SA come in. Sees KK walk. Sees JFK come in. And yet the notion he is leaving because he knows he'll win f*** all - ever - with us and City are seriously on the up carries more conjecture than the notion he simply left for more cash.

Aye, right...

[Ronaldo]

[Dinho lad]

[mrmojorisin75]

[Newcastle Fan]

Kept a clean sheet on his debut.

[Paully]

Shay Given's explosive new revelations about his NUFC exit

 

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/the-way-portrayed-disgrace-shay-13774492.amp

[Decky]

Can someone paste it in? I'm not even gonna waste my time loading that dreadful site.

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Shay Given has opened up on his Newcastle United exit for the first time – accusing the club of forcing him out and treating him disgracefully before his move to Manchester City.

 

Given’s new autobiography “Any Given Saturday” is out on Thursday and he says that his motivation for penning the book is to set the record straight to Newcastle fans who might view him as a mercenary for walking out on United.

 

 

In an explosive chapter of his new book he says:

 

He wanted to stay at St James’ Park for “life” – but the club showed zero ambition and offered him a LOWER deal than the one he was on

The club spun his exit to make him look like the bad guy.

He felt Mike Ashley was doing things “on the cheap” and to “wind up fans”.

The book is a fascinating, thrilling read and covers his ENTIRE Newcastle career – taking in spells playing for Kenny Dalglish, Sir Bobby Robson and Ruud Gullit – who he is particularly enlightening about. But in this first extract from the book, Given details what happened after Kevin Keegan’s second tenure ended – and talks in detail about his departure for the first time.

 

Chris Hughton came in for a short while as caretaker before we were all called into a meeting at the training ground. Who was going to be next through the revolving door? In the meeting, there was a piece of paper with the new manager’s name on it and Hughton said, “Joe Kinnear is coming in as manager?”

 

You could hear a pin drop. One staff member in the meeting, who I won’t name, somehow came up with the following bit of inspiration and broke the ice – Dean Kiely style – with, “Joe Kinnear? Is there a f*cking joke in here!”

 

It’s a great line but I swear it’s the truth. We just could not believe it. I was shellshocked. Joe was the interim manager while Chris stayed as first-team coach but whether it be for one game or a thousand, I never believed Kinnear was the right fit. No disrespect to Joe but he’d been out of football a long, long time. The foreign lads didn’t have a clue who he was. Everyone felt down after the appointment. There was a general feeling of absolute despair. I feel for Joe when I say this because he’s not a bad bloke but, basically, this was Newcastle United and he was a guy who hadn’t worked at the top level for 10 years. It just sort of summed up Mike Ashley’s tenure, it felt like everything he was doing was on the cheap, to wind the fans and players up.

 

It felt like we were drifting, inch by inch, week by week, from being a club that wanted to win and succeed in the Premier League to becoming a club that just wanted to survive in the Premier League. There’s a world of difference between those two approaches, those two ideas, and I only had one career and one chance. I started to think that I would have to move on.

 

Eventually the chance to join (Manchester) City came up. They were everything Newcastle were not at the time – ambitious, clear about their plans, willing to spend and attract big players and they wanted success.

 

What footballer doesn’t want that in his life?

 

Eventually, me and Michael Kennedy had a meeting with Mike Ashley about what the future held. It was at the manager’s office at the training ground and Llambias was there as well. I was willing to listen to what they had to say but ultimately I left it all up to Michael. This is what usually happens with contract and transfer issues, the player leaves it in the hands of someone they trust. I went out of the room soon after the meeting had begun and returned to the car. Michael was back out, sat in the passenger seat, soon after. “We’re not staying,” he said. “That was not a serious offer in any way, shape or form.” Mike Ashley had told Michael the deal being proposed but it was considerably lower than what we were offering new players at the time, who were coming in on huge long-term contracts that would secure them for life.

 

My deal did not do that and just confirmed what I already suspected – they weren’t going to pull out the stops to keep me at the club. I was prepared to stay for the rest of my career but, ultimately, I was in my prime, a potential Premier League winning team wanted to sign me and Newcastle did not give any impression they wanted to chase silverware. The sad thing was I’d placed serious, long-term roots down in Newcastle, my children were in school there and I would easily and happily have stayed forever.

 

How much did they really want to keep me though? How much did they want to be challenging? Did the boardroom care about keeping their most loyal players? In a word, no.

 

In the end, with me unhappy at what was going on and the lack of ambition shown by the club, a gun was put to my head. They said they would not allow me to leave unless I signed a transfer request. By making me hand in a formal written request, it meant they could waive 10 per cent of the fee I otherwise would’ve picked up after moving. With the fee being around £6-8m, it effectively meant I was waiving £600,000 to go.

 

It says everything that they were more keen on saving themselves £600,000 than they were keeping hold of a player who had given his absolute all for the club for over a decade. I’d literally spilt blood for Newcastle, pushed myself hard every day, even when times were so tough and quality players were leaving by the second.

 

The least the club could’ve done, in my opinion, is prove I was wanted. Instead, they were more interested in the transfer fee than they were me – a proven Premier League player, a dedicated team-man and a good professional. If they were letting me go, and they were more than happy to let the likes of Milner go as well, what does that tell you? It tells me that the economics of the club were a bigger priority than success on the pitch. That saddened me a lot then and it saddens me a lot now.

 

It all then happened very quickly. I didn’t have chance to say goodbye to the lads, say goodbye to the staff at the training ground or even clear out my stuff. Fair enough, that’s life. I just wanted to get out and get playing again and move to a club that was going places. It was a fresh start and a chance to go again. I could’ve signed the deal offered and lived on Easy Street but I knew we wouldn’t have been challenging for anything anytime soon. In the end, it came down to the January 2009 deadline day. They had to get it done quickly to hit the Europa League cut-off. What really pissed me off – and one of the reasons I’m doing this book – is the way the club treated me after I ‘demanded a move.’ The club was leaking stuff against me, left right and centre, telling the media: ‘We couldn’t keep him, unfortunately, because he forced us into the deal with his transfer request’ when, actually, it was the club that made me sign it in the first place.

 

They made it sound like I was holding them to ransom and that poor little Newcastle were being stitched up by just another greedy footballer when, in actual fact, I wanted to stay – but only if Newcastle gave me a competitive contract and, by doing so, proved the club had big plans for the future.

 

The way the club portrayed me was a disgrace and the money it cost me wasn’t – and isn’t – the issue; the issue was I’d given nearly 12 years of my life to that football club, given everything.

 

They’d quadrupled what they paid for me and when it came down to it, they couldn’t care less about me, the future of the club or the direction it was going in. To then read in the papers that I was effectively the one ‘desperate to go’ made me so mad.

 

In one press conference, Joe Kinnear said, “We bent over backwards to try and keep him at Newcastle United and offered him a longer contract to stay at the club. He has been with Newcastle United for a long time and has been a great servant but he felt the time was right to move on and so, realistically, we had no choice but to reluctantly agree to allow him to make this move.”

 

Hang on a minute...

 

Not only did the club play bullsh*t politics behind my back, claiming it was all me, after I’d gone, they were no better. All it would’ve taken was for them to say, ‘We place on record our thanks to Shay Given for his service to this football club.’

 

One sentence would’ve done me but no, I got nothing. I was hurting at the time and, to be honest, I’m still mad because it could’ve been dealt with a million times better. Not 10 times better, a million. As a player and as an individual I deserved so much more than that. I didn’t have the chance to say goodbye to the fans and the club hung me out to dry in the media. The odd time I’ve been out in Newcastle since I left, I’ve had a few negative comments about me leaving and it kind of angers you, you know? Maybe this chapter will set the record straight and help dispel a few of those myths about why I left; at least they will get my angle to the story.

 

The club gave me everything but I gave the club everything back in return and, thankfully, it will be around a lot longer than Mike Ashley will.

[Dinho lad]

And to think quite a number of people were critising him at the time for leavig Mike Ashley's NUFC! I'll repeat that..... Mike Ashley's NUFC!

 

 

Laughable. Fucking laughable.

[afar]

I was one of the ones that was angry with him leaving, at the time it, I don't think there was much to chose between Harper and Given. But he seemed to be a rat leaving the sinking ship. Interesting new background information, not sure why he waited until his biography to release it if he was so angry as he claims however. I do believe the story he tells, and certainly helps redeem him in my mind.

[Minhosa]

They did the same with Andy Carroll too in relation to the transfer request, no?

[LionOfGosforth]

"explosive chapter" my arse, there's not one single word in there that comes as any surprise whatsoever. I mean who didn't think they lied about it all? They lied about everything 

[xLiaaamx]

They did the same with Andy Carroll too in relation to the transfer request, no?

 

Andy Carroll had just signed a new contract though. Which is one of Given's main points, saying they didn't show him they wanted to keep him.

[NG32]

Theyve lied about everything.

[Wullie]

He's full of shit. If I wanted to get the truth of what went on at NUFC I'd read John Hartson's book like everyone else.

[Interpolic]

Kinnear's quote [emoji38]

 

So many arseholes been associated with this club the last ten years.

[Joe_F]

He's full of shit. If I wanted to get the truth of what went on at NUFC I'd read John Hartson's book like everyone else.

 

[Big Geordie]

Of course Given was fucked over. I couldn't blame him for leaving at the time and I think I said as much.

[Guest firetotheworks]

I still question his decision to leave mid-relegation battle tbh. That point isn't answered in that section there unfortunately.

[Guest]

I still question his decision to leave mid-relegation battle tbh. That point isn't answered in that section there unfortunately.

 

Man City were rich and wanted a keeper. If he'd said no at that point they'd have just spent £8-10m on another keeper and he'd have probably missed his chance

[Away Day Gadgie]

I still question his decision to leave mid-relegation battle tbh. That point isn't answered in that section there unfortunately.

 

Aye i admit it was quite bitter towards him at the time.  We got relegated by 1 point that season and he would've easily won us enough points for us to stay up.  His stock was high at the time, i don't think he would've had any bother securing a move to an ambitious club in the summer.

 

 

[Guest firetotheworks]

I still question his decision to leave mid-relegation battle tbh. That point isn't answered in that section there unfortunately.

 

Man City were rich and wanted a keeper. If he'd said no at that point they'd have just spent £8-10m on another keeper and he'd have probably missed his chance

At Man City maybe, but Given was hot property and would have easily found another club in the summer.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

I was angry with him when he left, he was the last bastion of what NUFC was before Ashley and he bailed out. If his story is true which given Ashley's history at the club I don't doubt anymore, then this is just another episode of the sad sorry state of affairs that has been the last ten years. I forgive Shay and regard him as the best 'keeper we've ever had post war and he is still a hero and welcome here anytime. Legend he is not though sadly... I reckon we would have stayed up had he stayed mind, just. He was a huge pal of Shearer and it is obvious now Shearer needed characters and leaders in that dressing room, NUFC men basically. Ah well..

[Guest]

I still question his decision to leave mid-relegation battle tbh. That point isn't answered in that section there unfortunately.

 

Man City were rich and wanted a keeper. If he'd said no at that point they'd have just spent £8-10m on another keeper and he'd have probably missed his chance

At Man City maybe, but Given was hot property and would have easily found another club in the summer.

 

At the time though Man Utd had van der Sar and always likely to sign someone better anyway, Arsenal were doing there usual 'happy with 4th' routine, Liverpool had Reina, Chelsea had Cech...

[Guest firetotheworks]

I still question his decision to leave mid-relegation battle tbh. That point isn't answered in that section there unfortunately.

 

Man City were rich and wanted a keeper. If he'd said no at that point they'd have just spent £8-10m on another keeper and he'd have probably missed his chance

At Man City maybe, but Given was hot property and would have easily found another club in the summer.

 

At the time though Man Utd had van der Sar and always likely to sign someone better anyway, Arsenal were doing there usual 'happy with 4th' routine, Liverpool had Reina, Chelsea had Cech...

The point being he'd have found a club with ambition, easily.