BlueStar Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Why should they have shown it next week? This Marge Simpson style "Ooh, don't rock the boat, don't cause a fuss, smile at the nice man" thing is absolutely emasculating, I'd rather we didn't get the thing at all than we got it by being toady pathetic little try hards. if they want to shoot the messenger, that's their problem. FIFA were given all this data nearly a month ago and they refused to act on it, that doesn't mean the BBC and Sunday Express should play along and bury the findings in a time when football isn't so in the forefront of the news, to do so would be cowardly, spinless and pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Why should they have shown it next week? This Marge Simpson style "Ooh, don't rock the boat, don't cause a fuss, smile at the nice man" thing is absolutely emasculating, I'd rather we didn't get the thing at all than we got it by being toady pathetic little try hards. if they want to shoot the messenger, that's their problem. FIFA were given all this data nearly a month ago and they refused to act on it, that doesn't mean the BBC and Sunday Express should play along and bury the findings in a time when football isn't so in the forefront of the news, to do so would be cowardly, spinless and pathetic. my views exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Why should they have shown it next week? This Marge Simpson style "Ooh, don't rock the boat, don't cause a fuss, smile at the nice man" thing is absolutely emasculating, I'd rather we didn't get the thing at all than we got it by being toady pathetic little try hards. if they want to shoot the messenger, that's their problem. FIFA were given all this data nearly a month ago and they refused to act on it, that doesn't mean the BBC and Sunday Express should play along and bury the findings in a time when football isn't so in the forefront of the news, to do so would be cowardly, spinless and pathetic. Hear hear. I'd like to think we as a nation are above indulging the type of low level corruption FIFA seem to love. They are a bunch of shysters and racketeers. The World Cup is no longer about the football (which is by and large piss poor nowadays) but it's an opportunity for both them and their corporate sponsors to rake it in. Fuck 'em. We could do a better job of anyone on this planet of hosting the World Cup and if we don't get it because someone from Russia has given them a backhander more fool them. Why should we pander to them? Or turn a blind eye? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 We won't get the World Cup, because we've been poking into places we shouldn't have, whilst Russia and Spain have sat back and said nothing. We've noone to blame but ourselves. It's not our responsibility to pick out corruption in FIFA, it's FIFA's job. And we've made them look like fools by doing it, they'll never admit they're corrupt now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I don't know how long this has been in the can, but if anything it should've been shown earlier, when it had the chance of effect meaningful change and not a few days before the vote (which has probably given more viewership). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Russia odds on favourites with every bookie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I'm with VI, not now, and not after. Should've been done earlier if they had the chance. Really get some movement going on opening this can of worms and getting some change. I don't care about losing the World Cup if it means changing world football for the better, no matter how small. At what point do we keep sitting back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I don't understand why Spain/Portugal are allowed a joint bid. During the bidding for 2010 the Committee decided it would not allow co-hosts. I can't stand how they just make up rules based on how it suits them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 We won't get the World Cup, because we've been poking into places we shouldn't have, whilst Russia and Spain have sat back and said nothing. We've noone to blame but ourselves. It's not our responsibility to pick out corruption in FIFA, it's FIFA's job. And we've made them look like fools by doing it, they'll never admit they're corrupt now. I'm with Jonny, let's not pretend for one bit that this is about ending corruption in FIFA, (if that is even possible). If that was BBC's sole intention, there are many things they could have done like showing it earlier or bringing a court case or reporting to he FA after getting solid evidence. Screening it a few days before the vote, despite having only shoddy evidence (at best) reeks of just sensationalism and trying to increase viewers at the expense of the nation. Oh and we should care if England's bid is undermined, the govt spent loads of money (that's yours and mine) for the bid and can only hope to recoup if we win the bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I'm not happy because this world cup could bring job to the North East. Most of us all know that we need more jobs in the region and this world cup could have helped us. If SJP and SOL both hosted event then every single hotel and B&B in Tyne and Wear could have been sold out, plus all the money they would spend in our shops, the passenger figures for our airport, attracting new destinations and new business's etc. Even NUFC would have gained from it, with ticket sales, and also a few fans buying club merchandise while they come over and we could have gained more foreign fans. I couldn't give a shit about the World Cup if we did get it and we didn't have atleast one host stadium on our doorstep (SJP preferably), but when all of us here have a chance of getting our region off the gorund even if it is for a month or so, then I care and the BBC along with the Daily Mail could well and truely have fucked that up for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 "one word of truth outweighs the whole world" Solzhenitsyn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 worlds gonna end in 2012 why are people bothered? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Nice to see so many people in this country willimg to turn a blind eye to corruption so long as we get to see some shite like Togo versus Ukraine at St James' Park Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Nice to see so many people in this country willimg to turn a blind eye to corruption so long as we get to see some shite like Togo versus Ukraine at St James' Park These lot will turn up and we'll all pretend not to notice in case FIFA are mean to us in future http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11304208 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Funny how the IOC think it is worth investigating and FIFA do not. Then again, FIFA turn a blind eye to everything whether it be corruption, drugs, or dodgy officials. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 It'll be the end of everything nice if Russia and/or Qatar get one or both WCs. http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/517631/698617.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Pretty sure England will get it, especially now we've sent the bellend sqaud to Zurich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tall Striker Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Pretty sure England will get it, especially now we've sent the bellend sqaud to Zurich. Wish I had your optimism. Don't think there's a chance we'll get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 England deserve it. Home to the 1 of the worlds best leagues, some top stadiums and full of teams supported by millions worldwide. It's a farce that it hasnt hosted in 44 years, 52 by the time the next World Cup. England will get it imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 England deserve it. Home to the 1 of the worlds best leagues, some top stadiums and full of teams supported by millions worldwide. It's a farce that it hasnt hosted in 44 years, 52 by the time the next World Cup. England will get it imo. do you think it gets awarded on that basis ? russia will get it as they will do far more to fill the pockets of fifa officials. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Absolute obliteration. This Man U defence is shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Absolute obliteration. This Man U defence is shocking. They'll need to improve before WC2018, I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Absolute obliteration. This Man U defence is shocking. They'll need to improve before WC2018, I agree. Could have sworn I was in the right thread. Ah well, it was worth go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 England deserve it. Home to the 1 of the worlds best leagues, some top stadiums and full of teams supported by millions worldwide. It's a farce that it hasnt hosted in 44 years, 52 by the time the next World Cup. England will get it imo. I agree we should get it but we have made enemies with the powers that be with our media rightfully showing the corruption and tbh i hope something good comes of it if they get investigated and clean the scum off but the timing is rotten and has scuppered us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I don't think we were in line to get it even before Panorama. And if a precondition for hosting the World Cup is that all criticism of FIFA must be suppressed, fuck 'em. Countries such as Russia and Qatar (respectively numbers 140 and 121 on the Press Freedom Index 2010) are precisely where it belongs. http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2010,1034.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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