mrmojorisin75 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I'm still not convinced the board want him full time, the only chance he has is if a few of our top targets say no in the summer and he finishes well. With Stoke well ahead of us in 10th place (the clubs minimum aim) then I can't see him being considered for the job. A couple of wins, and hopefully something out of the derby is all we have left to play for. it'll depend what the spreadsheet says, obviously everyone is going lose their bonus this season so is that enough of a saving for MA to not care about finishing top 10? i doubt it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 We were a real mess at the back. We were probably defending narrow to stop them playing through passes but I remember us getting cut wide open many times in the first half. Additionally our flanks were getting exposed as a result of this. Even Neville was complaining all match about the width of our back four. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Newcastle United's reckoning is upon us - the club needs change from head coach down to avoid more slide The reality that confronts us is that Newcastle, limping along as they are at the moment, need to be gutted once again this summer. Their squad – terminally light on numbers and devoid of the sufficient quality to even match their meagre top-10 target – is not fit for purpose and they require a new head coach to galvanise a club sliding into what feels like a dark place. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-uniteds-reckoning-upon---8693870 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Newcastle United's reckoning is upon us - the club needs change from head coach down to avoid more slide The reality that confronts us is that Newcastle, limping along as they are at the moment, need to be gutted once again this summer. Their squad – terminally light on numbers and devoid of the sufficient quality to even match their meagre top-10 target – is not fit for purpose and they require a new head coach to galvanise a club sliding into what feels like a dark place. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-uniteds-reckoning-upon---8693870 Good article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/john-carver-says-newcastle-united-8693741 The Magpies’ head coach said: “I think our fans are quite knowledgeable. “I think they understand the difference between the two clubs. “What I will say is that I don’t think the players we had on the pitch gave up on the situation. “I’m not trying to defend them here. I think they genuinely gave what they had." I have no words. Only one word is needed, "Lunatic." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/john-carver-says-newcastle-united-8693741 The Magpies’ head coach said: “I think our fans are quite knowledgeable. “I think they understand the difference between the two clubs. “What I will say is that I don’t think the players we had on the pitch gave up on the situation. “I’m not trying to defend them here. I think they genuinely gave what they had." I have no words. Only one word is needed, "Lunatic." Dunning–Kruger effect Dunning and Kruger proposed that, for a given skill, incompetent people will:[4] fail to recognize their own lack of skill fail to recognize genuine skill in others fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill, if they are exposed to training for that skill Sound familiar? He's too stupid to understand that he's stupid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/john-carver-says-newcastle-united-8693741 The Magpies’ head coach said: “I think our fans are quite knowledgeable. “I think they understand the difference between the two clubs. “What I will say is that I don’t think the players we had on the pitch gave up on the situation. “I’m not trying to defend them here. I think they genuinely gave what they had." I have no words. Only one word is needed, "Lunatic." this is the worst part really, so concerned with his own position he's not prepared to defend the player so is effectively hanging them out and absolving himself from blame 4 years with pardew wasn't wasted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 No one in the league in the past 5 years or so, has had a manager more I'll suited to the players they bring in. That continues to be our biggest problem. It's incredibly frustrating, and we still are yet to know for sure exactly how good the majority of these players can be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 No one in the league in the past 5 years or so, has had a manager more I'll suited to the players they bring in. That continues to be our biggest problem. It's incredibly frustrating, and we still are yet to know for sure exactly how good the majority of these players can be. Bang on the money, undoubtedly we are severely short on numbers and players for key positions, however we are not a team equal to the sum of their parts. We need a versatile manager to play to the strengths of his players. I refuse to believe players such as Anita are as bad as they are right now, he was a hot prospect when we bought him, not the hot steamy pile of shit he appears as now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 this is the worst part really, so concerned with his own position he's not prepared to defend the player so is effectively hanging them out and absolving himself from blame 4 years with pardew wasn't wasted From what I could see Carver sat on his arse for 90 minutes and offered nothing to the players. He should have been in his technical area giving them instruction but it appeared that didn't know what to say or do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 this is the worst part really, so concerned with his own position he's not prepared to defend the player so is effectively hanging them out and absolving himself from blame 4 years with pardew wasn't wasted From what I could see Carver sat on his arse for 90 minutes and offered nothing to the players. He should have been in his technical area giving them instruction but it appeared that didn't know what to say or do. Can't say I'm remotely shocked by that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 yep, i was there, and not once did i see any movement on the newcastle bench, not one memer of staff got out of the dugout, completely lost on what to do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 yep, i was there, and not once did i see any movement on the newcastle bench, not one memer of staff got out of the dugout, completely lost on what to do They basically failed to do what they are paid for and offered nothing to the players. The players were mainly poor but they looked as if they hadn't a clue as to what was expected of them and were left to get on with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I hate him. If he loves the club why he can not admit he is out of depth. The pundit is saying he is honest but I never seen any form of honesty from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoU Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Is there any reason for all this JC hate? He is just a caretaker manager, that has been thrown into a job he can't handle. Untill summer, where we hopefully will have a proper and permanent replacement for Pardew. At least he's trying. Could you imagine the chaos if he actually came out and said 'I'm not good enough for this job, but there is noone else'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 It's more what he represents I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Is there any reason for all this JC hate? He is just a caretaker manager, that has been thrown into a job he can't handle. Untill summer, where we hopefully will have a proper and permanent replacement for Pardew. At least he's trying. Could you imagine the chaos if he actually came out and said 'I'm not good enough for this job, but there is noone else'? The hate stems from fear that he's going to get the job permanently. You only have to look at the propaganda pieces from the local media to see why the fear is so real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 It would be fine if we had any confidence that the club were going to appoint a proper manager in the summer. Looks increasingly likely that they want Carver permanently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Him not ranting on the touch line means sod all tbh and the worst managers seem to do it the most. However he clearly has no clue as when alls said and done he has no qualification or the relevant experience to manage at this level. The club don't care or see that as a problem. It's the cheap option once again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 He will take us down if he gets the job full-time. Plainer than Penfold's lass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoU Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Is there any reason for all this JC hate? He is just a caretaker manager, that has been thrown into a job he can't handle. Untill summer, where we hopefully will have a proper and permanent replacement for Pardew. At least he's trying. Could you imagine the chaos if he actually came out and said 'I'm not good enough for this job, but there is noone else'? The hate stems from fear that he's going to get the job permanently. You only have to look at the propaganda pieces from the local media to see why the fear is so real. As far as I remember they were out early and saying that Carver wasn't one of the candidates they were considering. It seems very unlikely that they appoint him anyway, and even if they do, that would not really be his fault. Incompetent owners - there the hate should go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Is there any reason for all this JC hate? He is just a caretaker manager, that has been thrown into a job he can't handle. Untill summer, where we hopefully will have a proper and permanent replacement for Pardew. At least he's trying. Could you imagine the chaos if he actually came out and said 'I'm not good enough for this job, but there is noone else'? Calling the fans out at Southampton was the start but its almost like Pardew never left with this cunt in charge, very hard to feel sorry for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Is there any reason for all this JC hate? He is just a caretaker manager, that has been thrown into a job he can't handle. Untill summer, where we hopefully will have a proper and permanent replacement for Pardew. At least he's trying. Could you imagine the chaos if he actually came out and said 'I'm not good enough for this job, but there is noone else'? He put his name forward for a job he's not capable of performing and we as fans are suffering while he has his ego stroked, he hasn't been thrown into anything. As for him trying, I didn't see that yesterday and even if he is, he's not good enough and trying is nothing if you're not up to the task. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Is there any reason for all this JC hate? He is just a caretaker manager, that has been thrown into a job he can't handle. Untill summer, where we hopefully will have a proper and permanent replacement for Pardew. At least he's trying. Could you imagine the chaos if he actually came out and said 'I'm not good enough for this job, but there is noone else'? The hate stems from fear that he's going to get the job permanently. You only have to look at the propaganda pieces from the local media to see why the fear is so real. As far as I remember they were out early and saying that Carver wasn't one of the candidates they were considering. It seems very unlikely that they appoint him anyway, and even if they do, that would not really be his fault. Incompetent owners - there the hate should go. Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Is there any reason for all this JC hate? He is just a caretaker manager, that has been thrown into a job he can't handle. Untill summer, where we hopefully will have a proper and permanent replacement for Pardew. At least he's trying. Could you imagine the chaos if he actually came out and said 'I'm not good enough for this job, but there is noone else'? I would respect the man immensely if he said that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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