SSN: Charles N'Zogbia to the mackems off

[TRon]

Villa have agreed to sell Ashley Young to Man U for £16million. Wonder if they'll enter the race for Zog with serious intent now?

[bowlingcrofty]

Villa have agreed to sell Ashley Young to Man U for £16million. Wonder if they'll enter the race for Zog with serious intent now?

 

Glad they've agreed to it because it went through this morning.

[Guest BooBoo]

Villa have agreed to sell Ashley Young to Man U for £16million. Wonder if they'll enter the race for Zog with serious intent now?

 

I think they will, especially as McLeish is clearly a fan.

[TRon]

Villa have agreed to sell Ashley Young to Man U for £16million. Wonder if they'll enter the race for Zog with serious intent now?

 

Glad they've agreed to it because it went through this morning.

 

Well at least they've come to terms with this substantial body blow.

[Baggio]

I wouldn't be surprised if he's agreed to come already and we're just trying to screw the price down.

[JH]

Can see Zoggy moving to NUFC MkII like.

 

Can't see Bent staying with them though.

[TRon]

I wouldn't be surprised if he's agreed to come already and we're just trying to screw the price down.

 

I get that feeling as well tbh.

[Ketsbaia]

theres an article in FFT about how pace has become integral to football and that many managers think pace is equally important to ability. if we can get n'zogbia we will have both in abundance and it'll be frightening!

 

 

[mrmojorisin75]

I wouldn't be surprised if he's agreed to come already and we're just trying to screw the price down.

 

I get that feeling as well tbh.

 

aye this, and if that's the case fair enough i reckon wait it out and move onto the next target while wigan start to twitch

[Guest n4e]

And why he called him "insomnia" ?

 

Loved the chant someone on here made for him during that 'incident'.

 

He whinges on the left

He whinges on the right

That boy Insomnia

He stays up all night

[ohmelads]

I think it's worth paying that bit extra to beat the competition and bring him in early in the window. There is a risk of us losing out on him, whether other clubs offer better terms or a big club misses its target and goes in for him. So far we've signed two foreigners with no Premier League experience, and two players with a very suspect injury record. We could really do with a proven Premier League player coming in espescially as we've lost Nolan and could lose Barton and Enrique. For the money, it's good value and he'd walk into the first team. You know what you're getting with N'Zogbia and it's a very good, proven player at a good age.

 

However, with Gutierrez and Marveaux in the squad, and Ferguson as backup, will the club want to pay full wages to three wingers who all want first team football? Ben Arfa has supposedly been lined up for a number 10 role behind the striker, so that's filled too. We all know we need a squad, but cost-cutting has been the name of the game since Ashley came in. I wouldn't be surprised if Ashley looked at the squad, the cost and wages of Zog and went for a cheaper deal.

[mrmojorisin75]

personally i reckon ferguson will be the reason jonas/barton might be on the way out

 

if we got zog then we'd have marveaux, zog, HBA, ferguson and one of barton/jonas all able to play the wide positions...the more i think about it i'd say one of them will leave assuming we can land zog

 

or as someone else said we'll ship one of them first then bring in zog

[Baggio]

N'Zogbia would be a massive upgrade on Barton, probably like for like in wages too.

 

 

[mrmojorisin75]

i just think they've seen something (as have most people here tbf) that there's enough in ferguson that he can make the step up quickly and with assurance

 

in mike's world that's more than likely a justification for shipping one of the higher earning/older players to trim the squad numbers and reduce the wage bill

 

i think it's why the jonas rumours have surfaced

[oldtype]

I think it's worth paying that bit extra to beat the competition and bring him in early in the window. There is a risk of us losing out on him, whether other clubs offer better terms or a big club misses its target and goes in for him. So far we've signed two foreigners with no Premier League experience, and two players with a very suspect injury record. We could really do with a proven Premier League player coming in espescially as we've lost Nolan and could lose Barton and Enrique. For the money, it's good value and he'd walk into the first team. You know what you're getting with N'Zogbia and it's a very good, proven player at a good age.

 

However, with Gutierrez and Marveaux in the squad, and Ferguson as backup, will the club want to pay full wages to three wingers who all want first team football? Ben Arfa has supposedly been lined up for a number 10 role behind the striker, so that's filled too. We all know we need a squad, but cost-cutting has been the name of the game since Ashley came in. I wouldn't be surprised if Ashley looked at the squad, the cost and wages of Zog and went for a cheaper deal.

 

It's easy for us to say "ffs man just pay the extra 2m and get him signed up!"

 

I assume (and hope that) it's harder for the people who actually have to sign off on that sort of money to make those decisions

[bodson]

N'Zogbia would be a massive upgrade on Barton, probably like for like in wages too.

 

 

 

Well the new Barton we have seen this year is a hell of a player too. Shows great leadership too. Something Zog never ever will do. I really want to keep Barton tbh. And get Zoggy in aswell..

[ohmelads]

I think it's worth paying that bit extra to beat the competition and bring him in early in the window. There is a risk of us losing out on him, whether other clubs offer better terms or a big club misses its target and goes in for him. So far we've signed two foreigners with no Premier League experience, and two players with a very suspect injury record. We could really do with a proven Premier League player coming in espescially as we've lost Nolan and could lose Barton and Enrique. For the money, it's good value and he'd walk into the first team. You know what you're getting with N'Zogbia and it's a very good, proven player at a good age.

 

However, with Gutierrez and Marveaux in the squad, and Ferguson as backup, will the club want to pay full wages to three wingers who all want first team football? Ben Arfa has supposedly been lined up for a number 10 role behind the striker, so that's filled too. We all know we need a squad, but cost-cutting has been the name of the game since Ashley came in. I wouldn't be surprised if Ashley looked at the squad, the cost and wages of Zog and went for a cheaper deal.

 

It's easy for us to say "ffs man just pay the extra 2m and get him signed up!"

 

I assume (and hope that) it's harder for the people who actually have to sign off on that sort of money to make those decisions

 

I'm sure it is, but I'm just looking at his history of brinkmanship to get the best financial deal, regardless of what is best for the manager and team. If say we stall all summer trying to make them sweat to save 1 or 2M in August, we do run the risk of ending up scraping around for whoever we can get in late August.

[Tisd09]

It always amazes me just pay the extra wedge? We are talking about £2million as if its peanuts. FFS sake in the company I work for I don't like paying £10 more than I have to for something. Just because we got money doesn't mean we should piss it away.

[biggs]

It always amazes me just pay the extra wedge? We are talking about £2million as if its peanuts. FFS sake in the company I work for I don't like paying £10 more than I have to for something. Just because we got money doesn't mean we should p*ss it away.

We have £35 million to spend (not all in one go) and Pardew said it would be reinvested and players coming in to get bums off seats ,Zog is not pissing money away and if he does come in it will mean Guitterez leaving imho .

[mrmojorisin75]

It always amazes me just pay the extra wedge? We are talking about £2million as if its peanuts. FFS sake in the company I work for I don't like paying £10 more than I have to for something. Just because we got money doesn't mean we should piss it away.

 

it's about market value for a player like him entering into the last year of his contract - if our bid is 8m and it'll take 10m to get him then it'd be fucking stupid not to go the extra mile with the carroll money in the bank still

 

 

[Hanshithispantz]

N'Zogbia would be a massive upgrade on Barton, probably like for like in wages too.

 

 

Although I tend to agree, they are completely differant players. Barton offers something that none of other seemingly ever-growing attack minded players can, I feel we may be relying far too much on flair and pace when we start overlooking players like Barton (and even Nolan, although to a much lesser extent), who has proven to do an extremely effective job week in week out.

[Guest]

It always amazes me just pay the extra wedge? We are talking about £2million as if its peanuts. FFS sake in the company I work for I don't like paying £10 more than I have to for something. Just because we got money doesn't mean we should p*ss it away.

 

it's about market value for a player like him entering into the last year of his contract - if our bid is 8m and it'll take 10m to get him then it'd be f***ing stupid not to go the extra mile with the carroll money in the bank still

 

 

That'll probably happen if this is the situation mid to late August, but there's no reason whatsoever just to splash the cash when there's plenty of time to haggle yet.

[BrettNUFC]

It always amazes me just pay the extra wedge? We are talking about £2million as if its peanuts. FFS sake in the company I work for I don't like paying £10 more than I have to for something. Just because we got money doesn't mean we should p*ss it away.

 

it's about market value for a player like him entering into the last year of his contract - if our bid is 8m and it'll take 10m to get him then it'd be f***ing stupid not to go the extra mile with the carroll money in the bank still

 

 

That'll probably happen if this is the situation mid to late August, but there's no reason whatsoever just to splash the cash when there's plenty of time to haggle yet.

 

I wouldn't say this is a deal to be haggling with, i'd be more than happy to throw the 10 million and pinch Charlie now than haggle to get 8 million and the thought of other clubs joining the hunt at the price.

 

Man Utd have done their business well so far for me, name the targets, throw a price and grab them before Liverpool/Arsenal/Chelsea jump in. Although the deals have been slightly overpriced argueably, at least they will be theirs for future years to come rather than at another rival!

[Wilson]

@CaulkinTheTimes@SunderlandEcho@SAFCNews@Fourth_Official N'Zogbia just arrived at the SOL.

 

shite or true?

 

just seen it on another forum but dont go on twitter so cant check

[Guest]

It always amazes me just pay the extra wedge? We are talking about £2million as if its peanuts. FFS sake in the company I work for I don't like paying £10 more than I have to for something. Just because we got money doesn't mean we should p*ss it away.

 

it's about market value for a player like him entering into the last year of his contract - if our bid is 8m and it'll take 10m to get him then it'd be f***ing stupid not to go the extra mile with the carroll money in the bank still

 

 

That'll probably happen if this is the situation mid to late August, but there's no reason whatsoever just to splash the cash when there's plenty of time to haggle yet.

 

I wouldn't say this is a deal to be haggling with, i'd be more than happy to throw the 10 million and pinch Charlie now than haggle to get 8 million and the thought of other clubs joining the hunt at the price.

 

Man Utd have done their business well so far for me, name the targets, throw a price and grab them before Liverpool/Arsenal/Chelsea jump in. Although the deals have been slightly overpriced argueably, at least they will be theirs for future years to come rather than at another rival!

 

As it stands though there's no other offers for him is there? The likely candidates will be Villa & Sunderland. If we offer the same as them I reckon he'll choose us over them. I just don't see the panic yet.