Ronaldo Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Fuck the apple cart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 He's twice the attacking player that Jonas is. As a 'footballer' there's no comparison. I always remeber Zog's end product to be as equally as bad as Jonas when he was here. Twice the attacking player ? come off it man. I can only assume you've not watched the lad for a couple of years. I've got a life why would i want to watch Wigan I'm not saying there has been no improvemnt because as he pritty much kept wigan up. The guys still the same idiot with a mouth bigger than his brain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 We need Zoggy back. At the moment If Jonas was crocked we'd be in real trouble as he was our only real creative outlet last season. Jonas, Zoggy and Barton to fight for the RW and LW positions. Ben Arfa behind our new striker. Nolan and Cabaye to fight it out to line up alongside Tiote in the center. Gives us a bit more strength in depth. We will more than likely have an injury to one or more of these players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Cabaye vs Nolan. Mismatch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 The only thing lacking with Jonas is consistent quality end prfoduct, obviously that is a major flaw but he does offer us a lot in other areas. He work rate is excellent and he doesn't mind getting stuck in. He goes over a bit easily at times but not to the extent to where he is cheating, but it seems to wind the opposing players up. There is certainley room for N'Zogbia and Jonas in our team. N'Zogbia that left us a few seasons back is on par with Jonas, but he has matured since into a better player therefore better than Jonas now IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Cabaye vs Nolan. Mismatch. Based on what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Cabaye vs Nolan. Mismatch. Based on what? Fifa. Cabaye's a 79, Nolan a 77. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Yeah, figured as much. At least you admit it on this occasion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 f*** the apple cart. Remeber that 11 footballers on the pitch in the religation season ? Thats's what an upset apple cart looks like. Anway i'm sure he'll end up here for the start of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 No, that's what a team relying on gutless and ineffective players looks like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Religation shud get dun on video evidense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 No, that's what a team relying on gutless and ineffective players looks like. Thats's as a result of the whole upsetting the apple cart thing, most of them gutless and ineffective players are still in the first team !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 No, that's what a team relying on gutless and ineffective players looks like. Thats's as a result of the whole upsetting the apple cart thing, most of them gutless and ineffective players are still in the first team !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 You could just disagree... Its widely said on here to move forward we need to upgrade on the Simpsons, Nolans etc of the team. Just because of a sentimental attachment to another player doesnt change the fact he is a player we really need to improve on in our starting XI. As a squad player i have no issues whatsoever as he covers both flanks so has a part to play. I agree with Ronaldo in his assessment of top 6 games completely(despite shitty strawman comments from certain people it happens a lot) but we need that extra quality that we have missed in a lot of winnable games last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 We'd have stayed up if we'd had Charlie playing from January instead of selling him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 We'd have stayed up if we'd had Charlie playing from January instead of selling him though. On top of that we sold him too cheaply. I know someone said people here were delighted to get £6m at the time. I know I wasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 No, that's what a team relying on gutless and ineffective players looks like. Thats's as a result of the whole upsetting the apple cart thing, most of them gutless and ineffective players are still in the first team !! Liked that did you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Zoggy will not be coming to play on the left, sure at times he will if its required due to injuries.. but Jonas, HBA and Zoggy will be able to cover both flanks during the season if need be, strength in depth is what we have lacked for to long. Like it or not Jonas is very important to us and as we were a one flank team last season he suffered as teams could double even treble up on him. With Zoggy on the right it means we would be a much more balanced threat going forward whether it be in a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3. Zoggy---Tiote---Cabaye----Jonas ---------------HBA ------------NewStriker OR ------Cabaye------Tiote---------Jonas--------- ------Zoggy----------------------HBA ------------------NewStriker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 on paper yeah that looks sweet but i think in reality jonas may be benched or sold if we did get n'zogbia and ben arfa comes back strong, because i think nolan will be in the starting eleven. How long that lasts when it finally becomes obvious to pardew he is the odd one out remains a mystery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I really want N'Zogbia, think it would be a fantastic signing with him being a player who seemingly wants to be here and who's a proven top performer in the Premiership. I rate him twice as high as Henderson and pretty much as high as Ashley Young, and with that in mind, £12m is a cracking price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 on paper yeah that looks sweet but i think in reality jonas may be benched or sold if we did get n'zogbia and ben arfa comes back strong, because i think nolan will be in the starting eleven. How long that lasts when it finally becomes obvious to pardew he is the odd one out remains a mystery N'Zogbia has played on the right most of this season. Even if he was to play on the left, selling Jonas would be foolish. I can't see it personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 on paper yeah that looks sweet but i think in reality jonas may be benched or sold if we did get n'zogbia and ben arfa comes back strong, because i think nolan will be in the starting eleven. How long that lasts when it finally becomes obvious to pardew he is the odd one out remains a mystery N'Zogbia has played on the right most of this season. Even if he was to play on the left, selling Jonas would be foolish. I can't see it personally. Oh yeah i would much rather keep Jonas in the team. I just think it is more likely Pardew would drop him initially, rather than Big Kev. I think we really need to sort out a deal now or we may have real competition. If villa sell young which they will and for a sumit like £25m+ then they will have plenty of cash and N'zogbia is the perfect fit for them just like Young he has pace, can beat a man and can take a quality free-kick. Plus with Martinez maybe going there of course he will want Charlie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepharite Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Cabaye Tioté N'Zogbia HBA Jonas New ST I'm sure Pardew said that he would like to play HBA centrally behind a lone striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Zoggy will not be coming to play on the left, sure at times he will if its required due to injuries.. but Jonas, HBA and Zoggy will be able to cover both flanks during the season if need be, strength in depth is what we have lacked for to long. Like it or not Jonas is very important to us and as we were a one flank team last season he suffered as teams could double even treble up on him. With Zoggy on the right it means we would be a much more balanced threat going forward whether it be in a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3. Zoggy---Tiote---Cabaye----Jonas ---------------HBA ------------NewStriker OR ------Cabaye------Tiote---------Jonas--------- ------Zoggy----------------------HBA ------------------NewStriker Jonas did very well this season, like you say, often as our only attacking outlet with the likes of Shola, Loven and Ranger as his only options ahead. Would very much like to see him with some good players around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 ESPN has him starting up front with Hoarau. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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