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There's some crazy league systems outside the major leagues. Belgium's is the most ridiculously convoluted thing you've ever seen.

I've posted on them before. Right the top few teams separate off, halve their points, only play on Mondays and double points if there's a full moon type system. Pretty sure the goals are invisible  and refereeing is by popular vote.

 

:lol: Just went down a Wiki hole trying to work out what in the f*** is going on.

 

They have playoffs for Europa League places that include teams from the 2nd division, but exclude everyone in the top 6?? So if you're in the top 6, and make the Champions Playoff thing, but end up finishing last, you don't get s***. Where as 3rd place in the 2nd division might make the Europa League?!? :lol: class.

 

Was just digging into this. The winner of the 'playoff 2'  plays a "final" against the 5th place side from 'playoff 1' for the Europa League spot. Still doesn't make sense - why wouldn't 5th just get it? or 5th play 6th?

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There's some crazy league systems outside the major leagues. Belgium's is the most ridiculously convoluted thing you've ever seen.

I've posted on them before. Right the top few teams separate off, halve their points, only play on Mondays and double points if there's a full moon type system. Pretty sure the goals are invisible  and refereeing is by popular vote.

 

:lol: Just went down a Wiki hole trying to work out what in the f*** is going on.

 

They have playoffs for Europa League places that include teams from the 2nd division, but exclude everyone in the top 6?? So if you're in the top 6, and make the Champions Playoff thing, but end up finishing last, you don't get s***. Where as 3rd place in the 2nd division might make the Europa League?!? :lol: class.

 

Was just digging into this. The winner of the 'playoff 2'  plays a "final" against the 5th place side from 'playoff 1' for the Europa League spot. Still doesn't make sense - why wouldn't 5th just get it? or 5th play 6th?

The system used for relegation/promotion in Swedish ice hockey is a right laugh.

Positions 1 & 2 in the second division plays a three-game play off deciding who gets to play a seven-game play off final against the last placed in the highest division. The loser of the first play off final gets another three-game play off against whoever wins from a mini-league of the third to sixth placed teams (where the team that finishes third starts with three points, fourth starts with two, fifth with one). Whoever wins that game gets a seven game final against whoever finishes second last in the top division.

Someone thinks that was a good idea :lol:

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There's some crazy league systems outside the major leagues. Belgium's is the most ridiculously convoluted thing you've ever seen.

I've posted on them before. Right the top few teams separate off, halve their points, only play on Mondays and double points if there's a full moon type system. Pretty sure the goals are invisible  and refereeing is by popular vote.

 

:lol: Just went down a Wiki hole trying to work out what in the f*** is going on.

 

They have playoffs for Europa League places that include teams from the 2nd division, but exclude everyone in the top 6?? So if you're in the top 6, and make the Champions Playoff thing, but end up finishing last, you don't get s***. Where as 3rd place in the 2nd division might make the Europa League?!? :lol: class.

 

Was just digging into this. The winner of the 'playoff 2'  plays a "final" against the 5th place side from 'playoff 1' for the Europa League spot. Still doesn't make sense - why wouldn't 5th just get it? or 5th play 6th?

The system used for relegation/promotion in Swedish ice hockey is a right laugh.

Positions 1 & 2 in the second division plays a three-game play off deciding who gets to play a seven-game play off final against the last placed in the highest division. The loser of the first play off final gets another three-game play off against whoever wins from a mini-league of the third to sixth placed teams (where the team that finishes third starts with three points, fourth starts with two, fifth with one). Whoever wins that game gets a seven game final against whoever finishes second last in the top division.

Someone thinks that was a good idea :lol:

 

Why doesn't last and second last need a playoff between themselves as well?

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There's some crazy league systems outside the major leagues. Belgium's is the most ridiculously convoluted thing you've ever seen.

I've posted on them before. Right the top few teams separate off, halve their points, only play on Mondays and double points if there's a full moon type system. Pretty sure the goals are invisible  and refereeing is by popular vote.

 

:lol: Just went down a Wiki hole trying to work out what in the f*** is going on.

 

They have playoffs for Europa League places that include teams from the 2nd division, but exclude everyone in the top 6?? So if you're in the top 6, and make the Champions Playoff thing, but end up finishing last, you don't get s***. Where as 3rd place in the 2nd division might make the Europa League?!? :lol: class.

 

Was just digging into this. The winner of the 'playoff 2'  plays a "final" against the 5th place side from 'playoff 1' for the Europa League spot. Still doesn't make sense - why wouldn't 5th just get it? or 5th play 6th?

The system used for relegation/promotion in Swedish ice hockey is a right laugh.

Positions 1 & 2 in the second division plays a three-game play off deciding who gets to play a seven-game play off final against the last placed in the highest division. The loser of the first play off final gets another three-game play off against whoever wins from a mini-league of the third to sixth placed teams (where the team that finishes third starts with three points, fourth starts with two, fifth with one). Whoever wins that game gets a seven game final against whoever finishes second last in the top division.

Someone thinks that was a good idea :lol:

 

Why doesn't last and second last need a playoff between themselves as well?

Good question. I'll e-mail whoever is in charge and make sure we add those games as well.

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There's some crazy league systems outside the major leagues. Belgium's is the most ridiculously convoluted thing you've ever seen.

I've posted on them before. Right the top few teams separate off, halve their points, only play on Mondays and double points if there's a full moon type system. Pretty sure the goals are invisible  and refereeing is by popular vote.

 

:lol: Just went down a Wiki hole trying to work out what in the f*** is going on.

 

They have playoffs for Europa League places that include teams from the 2nd division, but exclude everyone in the top 6?? So if you're in the top 6, and make the Champions Playoff thing, but end up finishing last, you don't get s***. Where as 3rd place in the 2nd division might make the Europa League?!? :lol: class.

 

Was just digging into this. The winner of the 'playoff 2'  plays a "final" against the 5th place side from 'playoff 1' for the Europa League spot. Still doesn't make sense - why wouldn't 5th just get it? or 5th play 6th?

The system used for relegation/promotion in Swedish ice hockey is a right laugh.

Positions 1 & 2 in the second division plays a three-game play off deciding who gets to play a seven-game play off final against the last placed in the highest division. The loser of the first play off final gets another three-game play off against whoever wins from a mini-league of the third to sixth placed teams (where the team that finishes third starts with three points, fourth starts with two, fifth with one). Whoever wins that game gets a seven game final against whoever finishes second last in the top division.

Someone thinks that was a good idea :lol:

 

Why doesn't last and second last need a playoff between themselves as well?

Good question. I'll e-mail whoever is in charge and make sure we add those games as well.

 

:thup: I always believed in you. :aww:

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Wednesday 14 June 9am

 

Sky have the option to start the season on the Friday but think they have a limited number of games for that slot so they might want to save it for later. Though not ruling it out entirely. More likely they'll have a Championship game rather than Premier League.

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Would it be against the rules for a player to sell his international rights to a country. Like I'm sure when Wayne Rooney first got into the Everton first team it was mentioned he was eligible to play for Ireland as well as England. Could a future Wayne Rooney effectively auction himself?

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I'm sure this has been suggested before, but could they not put a cap on player salaries, but no restrictions on appearance money. That way players would have to earn their wages.

 

If money is to be the incentive then make it an incentive to be better.

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Salary caps work within a league if league isn't exposed to external competition from other leagues.  The Salary Cap works well for leagues like the NFL where there is no other place for players to go, or like the NBA or NHL where the alternative is playing in Argentina, Europe or the Russian K-League and where even the capped salary is far in excess of the alternate leagues.

 

If the Premier League capped Salaries then all the top players would flood to Spain, France or Germany where the salaries are uncapped. 

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Salary caps work within a league if league isn't exposed to external competition from other leagues.  The Salary Cap works well for leagues like the NFL where there is no other place for players to go, or like the NBA or NHL where the alternative is playing in Argentina, Europe or the Russian K-League and where even the capped salary is far in excess of the alternate leagues.

 

If the Premier League capped Salaries then all the top players would flood to Spain, France or Germany where the salaries are uncapped.

 

Not if it was a UEFA decision.

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You're right....it would need to be a UEFA decision to be possible. And we know how that would go.

 

A more likely solution would be putting fixed squad limits in place for the First Team, "Reserves" and a U23, with restrictions on where loans can play depending on the players squad contract.  For example, no loans within the league for the first team squad (or equivalent rated league (i.e. EPL/Bundesliga/La Liga/SerieA)  must go down a league or move to a smaller country.  Reserves cannot play in First team or be loaned to league down without clearing a squad place in the first team.

 

This would prevent clubs from stockpiling players and encourage players to sign for clubs they would play for (not have the 67+ Chelsea loan players)

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So the other day I went to the great spectacle that is the first Europa league qualifying round, UEFA being the incredibly intelligent organisation that they are saw the tie kick off at 5pm, in temperatures way above 30c. About half way through each half the ref stopped the game for a drinks break lasting a few minutes.

 

Are these drinks breaks part of the official rules? Are they a new thing? Don't think I've ever seen one before, presumably the plan is to enforce this rule in Qatar if this a genuine rule? 

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So the other day I went to the great spectacle that is the first Europa league qualifying round, UEFA being the incredibly intelligent organisation that they are saw the tie kick off at 5pm, in temperatures way above 30c. About half way through each half the ref stopped the game for a drinks break lasting a few minutes.

 

Are these drinks breaks part of the official rules? Are they a new thing? Don't think I've ever seen one before, presumably the plan is to enforce this rule in Qatar if this a genuine rule? 

 

Yes, if temperatures reach above 32 degrees C then the referee can call them at 30 mins and 75 mins.

 

There was a few during the 2014 World Cup.

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