Skirge Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 He wanted Champions League football now yeah ok it was a stretch for us this season but had the daft fat cunt just invested a little in a striker, I mean Gomis and LDJ how much would that have cost ? Keep Yo and have a good go at the top four finish, we don't make it he was always going to recoup any investment by selling Cabaye in the summer. Had we made it he keeps Yo and has the extra Champions League money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 If we don't replace him, and given previous form that's not improbable, add in the 60 million TV money that's remained untouched, would 80 million have been wiped from our loan from Ashley? Ahem. Football clubs have other costs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 If we don't replace him, and given previous form that's not improbable, add in the 60 million TV money that's remained untouched, would 80 million have been wiped from our loan from Ashley? Ahem. Football clubs have other costs Yeah but that 80 million is on top of what we have accomodated for in last few years anyway. At least 40 of that should be spent on transfers, as that is more than we expect or require to cover club costs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 If we don't replace him, and given previous form that's not improbable, add in the 60 million TV money that's remained untouched, would 80 million have been wiped from our loan from Ashley? Ahem. Football clubs have other costs Which were already accounted for and paid from current revenues. We are making profit remember? Unless there's an extra £80m of spending this year that nobody's mentioned. HBAs tab at munchies coming due maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 It is a shame that we won't get an answer as to what Joe Kinnear meant by no one will leave this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 It is a shame that we won't get an answer as to what Joe Kinnear meant by no one will leave this window. No one will leave this window until Lee has licked it clean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Given the Yohan/Riot song, It's probably best we prepare ourselves for the inevitable 'lock up your horses' jokes... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 From .com. Haven't seen them put things this way for a while. It's sounds like this place. Reports circulating on Monday evening that a revised bid of an undisclosed value from PSG for Yohan Cabaye was accepted by Newcastle have now been confirmed. The player will now leave the United squad preparing for Tuesday's match at Norwich to undergo a medical before signing on the dotted line at Parc des Princes. Cabaye is in line to debut at home to Bordeaux on Friday evening and should make a return to Champions League action midway through next month, when PSG face Bayer Leverkusen in the first leg of their last 16 tie. What proved to be Yohan's final action as a Magpie came at Upton Park on January 18th, an added time free kick hitting the net for his 18th Toon goal in his 93rd game. Tragic and inevitable in equal measure, Cabaye's exit is the latest manifestation of our declared policy to buy players, increase their market value and sell for profit. That's a bigger version of Crewe Alexandra's vision - but lacking any elements of success, ambition or silverware. Keeping hold of Cabaye in August was a genuine plus, his goals and general play instrumental in our current top ten placing. Where we'd be without him is unthinkable. Like the Carroll sale, the supporters become victims of his success. The points earned via him have propelled us to a place of safety now - meaning that he can be cashed in on with no threat to our top-flight status and the rest of the season can be written off as a non-event. They may have more time than when Andy Carroll left in 2011, but whether United have the ability and desire to sign a replacement this week remains to be seen. Given previous experience you'd think not, on the basis that we're not in the perilous situation of a year ago and there's therefore no need to actually spend any cash on a permanent signing. It's debatable whether a loan would even be sanctioned by this mob, if they think we can muddle on until the summer with what we've got. Quite what effect this has on United's French contingent (in particular Mathieu Debuchy) is another imponderable, but in it immediately hands Hatem Ben Arfa a route back into the side and sees messrs Obertan and Marveaux undeservedly edge back into the first team picture. Whether overseas players (and their agents) now view Newcastle as a valid career move in the light of Cabaye's elevation at both club and international level is one line of thinking, but that edges further towards the football mercenary scenario and relies on the scouting network continually sifting out chancers like Xisco from talents. Cabaye isn't the first and certainly won't be the last fan favourite to leave, but in terms of replacing optimism with disillusionment for another generation his absence will be keenly felt. No player is bigger than the club, but there's a void that needs to be filled very urgently. The only slight benefit is that he's not remained in the Premier League, thus making it easier for us to "move on".... The wisdom of building a successful team round a strong spine becomes ever more difficult to apply when looking at our current squad - and this summer looks like being among the busiest for years in terms of player exits. The unrelenting diet of disappointment that Newcastle supporters are fed shows no sign of altering, but while this remains a one club city, its fan base is no longer as stoic or steadfast as it once was. Estranged, perhaps. "Good business" then we'll doubtless be told, but another one those invisible threads connecting fans to their club has been severed when the proceeds are just trousered. Sadly, it becomes ever more justifiable for fans to also decide that it's "good business" for them not to buy tickets - not just for meaningless cup ties, but for what are meaningless league games. Presumably the players would be fined for finishing in a European spot. There comes a point when people say "why bother" to financially or emotionally back a club whose deliberate policy is not to achieve anything of worth on the field. Selling your best player - again - is a neat way of highlighting that policy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Good post that from .com. Good summary at the end. Though the summer would be the time to judge the impact of such a sale. If renewal time comes and goes and the result is much the same that's a tacit confirmation that the club can ride roughshod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Certainly glad we rested him for the FA Cup tie earlier in the month. Oh yeah sorry, he was injured wasn't he? Stop sniggering at the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Before this Cabaye stuff I was seriously thinking about avoiding the derby at the weekend. I seem to care less by the day, don't like it but that's the way it's going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Can't believe people can be happy with this. Selling the best player we have without any realistic replacement. At a time where the league is probably going to be as open as we'll ever see it. But rather than wanting investment into the side to push on and really challenge we have fans saying we're safe and should just sell on. Fuck that shit, how can you complain about the owner and manager lacking ambition when you display it openly yourselves. 'Happy' is the wrong word, but I think some of us are accepting that, given all the circumstances, the right decision is to accept PSG's offer. It's not like any football club is completely in control of everything that can go on. He's a good player, but as Tmonkey has pointed out, he has his flaws, and £20m is a good price. If it's true that he could leave for far less in the summer, then really there's no choice. I do get tired of hearing that it's all down to Dr Evil and his mad schemes to fleece the club. There's a far simpler explanation, and one that would affect every club in our position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I can't get my head around why people seem surprised at any of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 .com growing some balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Can't believe people can be happy with this. Selling the best player we have without any realistic replacement. At a time where the league is probably going to be as open as we'll ever see it. But rather than wanting investment into the side to push on and really challenge we have fans saying we're safe and should just sell on. Fuck that shit, how can you complain about the owner and manager lacking ambition when you display it openly yourselves. 'Happy' is the wrong word, but I think some of us are accepting that, given all the circumstances, the right decision is to accept PSG's offer. It's not like any football club is completely in control of everything that can go on. He's a good player, but as Tmonkey has pointed out, he has his flaws, and £20m is a good price. If it's true that he could leave for far less in the summer, then really there's no choice. I do get tired of hearing that it's all down to Dr Evil and his mad schemes to fleece the club. There's a far simpler explanation, and one that would affect every club in our position. Exactly. Nobody likes it, in fact it's shit. But super-rich clubs generally buy the players of the rest. Sadly at the moment we're part of the rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 You can be pissed off about something without being surprised by it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 You can be p*ssed off about something without being surprised by it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Certainly glad we rested him for the FA Cup tie earlier in the month. Oh yeah sorry, he was injured wasn't he? Stop sniggering at the back. Aye PSG will be glad they can play him away to Charlton in the next round Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 We will always be part of "the rest" under Ashley's regime. Can't wait for the excuses from Pardew. Fact is, we have shown zero ambition during Cabaye's time here. He's a quality player and we're a club full of potential being ran by jokers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 We will always be part of "the rest" under Ashley's regime. Can't wait for the excuses from Pardew. Fact is, we have shown zero ambition during Cabaye's time here. He's a quality player and we're a club full of potential being ran by jokers. For what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Certainly glad we rested him for the FA Cup tie earlier in the month. Oh yeah sorry, he was injured wasn't he? Stop sniggering at the back. Probably in France agreeing his terms and doing a pre-medical then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I can't get my head around why people seem surprised at any of this. Nobody is EDIT: Aye Loki. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Sadly, it becomes ever more justifiable for fans to also decide that it's "good business" for them not to buy tickets - not just for meaningless cup ties, but for what are meaningless league games. Presumably the players would be fined for finishing in a European spot. This perfectly sums up why I don't have a season ticket any more. With a 550-mile round trip thrown in, it just didn't make financial sense, using the same logic the club enshrines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Heard on SSN we are putting a dealine of tomorrow night on signings? So despite wasting two windows we are almost halving our allocated time to replace Cabaye This will end well...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Can't believe people can be happy with this. Selling the best player we have without any realistic replacement. At a time where the league is probably going to be as open as we'll ever see it. But rather than wanting investment into the side to push on and really challenge we have fans saying we're safe and should just sell on. f*** that s***, how can you complain about the owner and manager lacking ambition when you display it openly yourselves. 'Happy' is the wrong word, but I think some of us are accepting that, given all the circumstances, the right decision is to accept PSG's offer. It's not like any football club is completely in control of everything that can go on. He's a good player, but as Tmonkey has pointed out, he has his flaws, and £20m is a good price. If it's true that he could leave for far less in the summer, then really there's no choice. I do get tired of hearing that it's all down to Dr Evil and his mad schemes to fleece the club. There's a far simpler explanation, and one that would affect every club in our position. Exactly. Nobody likes it, in fact it's s***. But super-rich clubs generally buy the players of the rest. Sadly at the moment we're part of the rest. Except our owner chooses for us to not be a 'super-rich club' when in reality he's one of the wealthiest men in the PL. Adds insult to injury doesn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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