Demba Ba (now retired)

[Fenham Mag]

Jingle bells, Ashley smells

Demba is away

Oh, what fun it is to play

in a relegation 6 pointer, hey

 

[Dokko]

Jingle bells, Ashley smells

Demba is away

Oh, what fun it is to play

in a relegation 6 pointer, hey

 

Decent 

[Guest hatem garrincha]

DEMBA Ba has revealed his frustration at Newcastle United’s style of play this season as the sense of uncertainty surrounding the striker’s future builds.

United’s top scorer has scored 11 times this season but, despite his fine form, the spectre of the upcoming transfer window looms large over both the striker and the club.

The Journal can reveal Newcastle have made their “best and final” offer to Ba who gave a revealing interview to French TV station Canal+ in which he talked candidly about interest from Arsenal and admitted to concern at a lack of creativity in the team.

That is unlikely to go down particularly well with Alan Pardew or the board, who privately admit the uncertainty over the striker is their biggest concern as they plan for January.

They have made an offer which would bring Ba parity with the club’s other big earners, but his advisers are not willing to agree a deal.

The Journal understands the player has expressed a desire to play in the Champions League while at the peak of his game and, although he said leaving is “not on his mind”, he also praised Arsenal in his interview, which was broadcast on Sunday night.

There is a conviction, however, the demands around the deal – any buying club may have to shell out almost double the £7.5million release clause to complete a deal – make it far from certain he will leave.

The uncertainty is not helpful, and it was surprising Ba spoke publicly over the weekend after maintaining a silence for much of the summer on his future.

He was speaking to the channel’s flagship football TV programme L’Equipe du Dimanche, who had journeyed to Newcastle after the striker agreed to their request for an interview.

Whether Pardew will welcome his intervention just before the January transfer window is another matter, although the striker did strike an optimistic note in the run-up to the crucial QPR clash on Saturday. Ba’s comments strike at the heart of many supporters concerns this season, with Newcastle clearly suffering because of injuries to two of their creative sparks Yohan Cabaye and Hatem Ben Arfa.

Ba said: “I’m not happy when the team does not create anything

 

“Fans come to see beautiful games with beautiful actions and not long balls from the goalkeeper to the striker.”

On the prickly issue of his future, Ba admitted the Gunners are “very attractive” but made it clear there had been no contact from North London.

The Journal understands the player would only leave for Champions League football, with the wage demands not the only consideration of his agents as they try to resolve his future.

Ba himself said the links were a case of people putting two and two together, especially because of the clause inserted in his contract, and refused to be drawn in any depth on his intentions in the New Year.

He added: “Journalists just do their job.

“They know Arsenal need strikers, they know a release clause is inserted in my contract, so they make speculations.

“I don’t really want to comment on that, because there hasn’t been any contact, clearly, but it is true Arsenal are a very attractive club.”

In another segment on the TV programme, Ba was pictured taking a delivery of gym equipment – which the interviewer said was not exactly the actions of someone who was about to move.

That drew an interesting response from the Senegal striker.

He said: “I’ll do what I have to do in Newcastle and if I have to leave I will move all this stuff out.

“For now, though, it’s not in my mind.”

Newcastle need no distractions this weekend, especially with a game against QPR on the horizon. Harry Redknapp’s team won their first game of the season on Saturday and have not lost since the former Spurs boss took over – but. even so, Ba reckons they should be beaten at St James’ Park.

Taking heart from Newcastle’s display against Manchester City, Ba said Newcastle could handle the pressure of the must-win game.

He added: “Next Saturday against QPR, if we make mistakes the fans will become more demanding.

“If we play like we did against City, we should win.

“Don’t forget it was the champions we played last Saturday.”

 

Ryder or Douglas ? Did he read this thread sunday night ?

[Cronky]

We're getting to the point now where Ba is destroying the greatest asset we had last season which allowed us to overperform and that is team-spirit.

 

What the fuck? That is absolutely ridiculous conjecture man. 

 

Just because it's conjecture doesn't mean it isn't true.

 

Ba has been tarting himself around by various means to other clubs for the last few months. Pardew compounded the problem by promising him he can play in his favourite position as a way of persuading him to stay.

 

It all reminds me of that situation a few years ago when Shearer threatened to leave if his status was demoted to that of a squad player. He should have been told to leave if that's how he felt, but instead the club pandered to him. We could debate what quality he was bringing to the team, and how good the alternatives were, but the fact is that failing to deal with the situation properly coincided with our decline.

 

This isn't our only problem, but it is very corrosive to team spirit when a player looks to be dictating to the management, rather than the other way round.

[Jack Flash]

Pardew compounded the problem by promising him he can play in his favourite position as a way of persuading him to stay.

 

He also compounded the problem further by repeatedly mentioning the release clause for often no reason. Once it was out in the open you couldn't/can't stop him talking about it.

[ExiledGeordie]

 

He'll be gone for the simple fact he (and his agents) know that he can get more money than he's being paid right now.

 

Would love him to sign a new contract as he's guaranteed goals and is committed on the pitch but if he leaves for more money I won't be sorry to be shot of the whole "will he, won't he" saga. Plus he should never be talking in public about tactics or possible moves to other teams.

 

Tedious affair but I suppose it's all part of modern day football

[Skirge]

SSN saying Ba told French TV he is attracted by a move to Arsenal.. Fkn hell I bet Pards is Livid, we now need to line up in the best way for Cisse.

 

Piss myself if Arsenal sign Huntelaar instead.

 

 

Newcastle striker Demba Ba faces fine as club close in on a transfer window move for Marseille forward Loïc Rémy

Newcastle could fine Demba Ba for giving an interview in which he admitted he was interested in a move to Arsenal

As revealed by Telegraph Sport yesterday, Alan Pardew is closing in on the signing of France international striker Loic Rémy from Marseille in a €14 million (£11.4million) deal but is annoyed with Ba’s comments.

Ba’ s future at Newcastle United has been a constant source of speculation since his advisers leaked the existence of a £7 million release clause 12 months ago, but he caused a stir on Tyneside this week when he openly admitted Arsenal were “attractive” to him.

Newcastle are far from happy with the Senegal international, who made his comments on French television, and Pardew will discuss with managing director Derek Llambias what action to take.

Ba also criticised the team’s tactics and, as the interview was not sanctioned by the club’s press department, he is in breach of contract and could be fined two weeks wages, about £90,000.

It remains to be seen whether a player who has been hankering for a move in the last two transfer windows finally leaves, particularly as there are doubts about whether interested clubs will be able to insure him for the value of his £7million release clause because of a long-standing knee problem – but Newcastle appear to have decided they will sign another striker regardless.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/9754211/Newcastle-striker-Demba-Ba-faces-fine-as-club-close-in-on-a-transfer-window-move-for-Marseille-forward-Loic-Remy.html

 

 

WTF!!

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2012/12/lfc-scout-report-demba-ba/

[Elliottman]

SSN saying Ba told French TV he is attracted by a move to Arsenal.. Fkn hell I bet Pards is Livid, we now need to line up in the best way for Cisse.

 

p*ss myself if Arsenal sign Huntelaar instead.

 

 

Newcastle striker Demba Ba faces fine as club close in on a transfer window move for Marseille forward Loïc Rémy

Newcastle could fine Demba Ba for giving an interview in which he admitted he was interested in a move to Arsenal

As revealed by Telegraph Sport yesterday, Alan Pardew is closing in on the signing of France international striker Loic Rémy from Marseille in a €14 million (£11.4million) deal but is annoyed with Ba’s comments.

Ba’ s future at Newcastle United has been a constant source of speculation since his advisers leaked the existence of a £7 million release clause 12 months ago, but he caused a stir on Tyneside this week when he openly admitted Arsenal were “attractive” to him.

Newcastle are far from happy with the Senegal international, who made his comments on French television, and Pardew will discuss with managing director Derek Llambias what action to take.

Ba also criticised the team’s tactics and, as the interview was not sanctioned by the club’s press department, he is in breach of contract and could be fined two weeks wages, about £90,000.

It remains to be seen whether a player who has been hankering for a move in the last two transfer windows finally leaves, particularly as there are doubts about whether interested clubs will be able to insure him for the value of his £7million release clause because of a long-standing knee problem – but Newcastle appear to have decided they will sign another striker regardless.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/9754211/Newcastle-striker-Demba-Ba-faces-fine-as-club-close-in-on-a-transfer-window-move-for-Marseille-forward-Loic-Remy.html

 

 

WTF!!

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2012/12/lfc-scout-report-demba-ba/

 

Ahh I've wanted to do this for so long..

 

[nufc4eva]

Just sell the fucker now, too much hanging over this and won't stop till he is gone. Not ideal but rather that than him having this hold over the club really

[Wilson]

It remains to be seen whether a player who has been hankering for a move in the last two transfer windows finally leaves

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual.

[Guest icemanblue]

We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual.

 

Yep. It's pointless getting annoyed by it. For me, he hasn't acted like a prick. He's obviously keeping his options open, which he has the right to do. The latest interview, whilst undesirable, has been blown out of all proportion. If he stays, great. If he leaves, we move on.

[Guest Roger Kint]

We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual.

 

Given his moves from Germany and how we got him its anything but surprising. You dont have the advisors or clause unless you have a desire to move on if better chances arrive.

[Disco]

We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual.

 

Especially when we buy them in the smoke and daggers way that we do, targeting permanently unsettled players and players on knock-off deals. They knew what they were getting when they bought Ba, both on and off-field. He turned up at West Ham after going on strike and had a very similar clause that we profited from.

 

It's funny to see how the more rhetoric the club puts out the more turn against him, it's like all our sales recently. They're not daft lads are Dekka and Slim Mike.

 

As long as he keeps playing well and scoring/creating goals I couldn't give a shit tbh, modern football is modern football unfortunately. Give me a mercenary producing the goods like Ba or Jose or Nolan over some slack jawed yokel loyal player like Taylor or Shola any day of the week.

 

It's also weird how many people who are disgusted with Ba lap it up when a player throws some comments our way. You can't have it both ways.

[Skirge]

We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual.

 

Its not unusual to have clubs after our top players no but it is to have a stupid £7.5m clause hanging over us transfer window after transfer window.

[Beren]

We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual.

 

Yep. It's pointless getting annoyed by it. For me, he hasn't acted like a prick. He's obviously keeping his options open, which he has the right to do. The latest interview, whilst undesirable, has been blown out of all proportion. If he stays, great. If he leaves, we move on.

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual.

 

Its not unusual to have clubs after our top players no but it is to have a stupid £7.5m clause hanging over us transfer window after transfer window.

 

True, but that's a detail. Even if there wasn't a clause his agent would be looking for a better deal for him and the press would be stirring it.

 

It does make it more scary for us obviously, but I still think the deal for potential buyers isn't as sweet as it sounds.

[Guest Roger Kint]

We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual.

 

Its not unusual to have clubs after our top players no but it is to have a stupid £7.5m clause hanging over us transfer window after transfer window.

 

What if the only way he would sign for us was to have that clause? Stupid £7.5m > Missing out on a quality striker.

 

We werent the only ones in for him at the time so the chances are we didnt have a choice but accept if we wanted him.

[Dave]

We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual.

 

Especially when we buy them in the smoke and daggers way that we do, targeting permanently unsettled players and players on knock-off deals. They knew what they were getting when they bought Ba, both on and off-field. He turned up at West Ham after going on strike and had a very similar clause that we profited from.

 

It's funny to see how the more rhetoric the club puts out the more turn against him, it's like all our sales recently. They're not daft lads are Dekka and Slim Mike.

 

As long as he keeps playing well and scoring/creating goals I couldn't give a shit tbh, modern football is modern football unfortunately. Give me a mercenary producing the goods like Ba or Jose or Nolan over some slack jawed yokel loyal player like Taylor or Shola any day of the week.

 

It's also weird how many people who are disgusted with Ba lap it up when a player throws some comments our way. You can't have it both ways.

 

Spot on.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual.

 

Its not unusual to have clubs after our top players no but it is to have a stupid £7.5m clause hanging over us transfer window after transfer window.

 

What if the only way he would sign for us was to have that clause? Stupid £7.5m > Missing out on a quality striker.

 

We werent the only ones in for him at the time so the chances are we didnt have a choice but accept if we wanted him.

 

As I said in the other thread, it might even be that Ba wanted the clause set at something like £5m, so we actually did OK to make him that bit less attractive to buyers.

[Guest Roger Kint]

We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is fucking annoying but really it's not that unusual.

 

Its not unusual to have clubs after our top players no but it is to have a stupid £7.5m clause hanging over us transfer window after transfer window.

 

What if the only way he would sign for us was to have that clause? Stupid £7.5m > Missing out on a quality striker.

 

We werent the only ones in for him at the time so the chances are we didnt have a choice but accept if we wanted him.

 

As I said in the other thread, it might even be that Ba wanted the clause set at something like £5m, so we actually did OK to make him that bit less attractive to buyers.

 

That wouldnt be far wrong to suggest Ian tbh. He negotiated a FREE from West Ham on relegation so its not unlikely he wanted similar here.

[The College Dropout]

Aye tbh i'm always looking for a "come & get me" from our targets. Indeed that's what happened with Debuchy and others.

 

Big Demba fan, if he leaves he leaves. Hopefully Cisse can stay injury free and find his scoring boots.

[Doug]

We're always going to have players with uncertain futures or that richer clubs are interested in. The Demba situation is f***ing annoying but really it's not that unusual.

 

Especially when we buy them in the smoke and daggers way that we do, targeting permanently unsettled players and players on knock-off deals. They knew what they were getting when they bought Ba, both on and off-field. He turned up at West Ham after going on strike and had a very similar clause that we profited from.

 

It's funny to see how the more rhetoric the club puts out the more turn against him, it's like all our sales recently. They're not daft lads are Dekka and Slim Mike.

 

As long as he keeps playing well and scoring/creating goals I couldn't give a s*** tbh, modern football is modern football unfortunately. Give me a mercenary producing the goods like Ba or Jose or Nolan over some slack jawed yokel loyal player like Taylor or Shola any day of the week.

 

It's also weird how many people who are disgusted with Ba lap it up when a player throws some comments our way. You can't have it both ways.

A lot of cloak & mirrors conjecture in your claims here 

[Dokko]

Hope we do a citeh /barton with him when he leaves.

 

Well you may have a £7.5m release clause, and you may be entitled to half of it, but unless we receive £7.5m in full you are going nowhere.

 

 

[Unbelievable]

Hope we do a citeh /barton with him when he leaves.

 

Well you may have a £7.5m release clause, and you may be entitled to half of it, but unless we receive £7.5m in full you are going nowhere.

 

 

 

Do you understand the legal implications of a contract?