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Dinho lad

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Surprised that Demba Ba isn't receiving a bit more criticism here. (And criticism is what it should be. He's not deserving of some daft abuse.)

 

Why exactly is he leaving? He's playing in his favoured position and is scoring goals. Alright, maybe we're not preforming well as a team, but so what? He's part of  that team.

 

People mentioning that he was a free transfer and therefore we should be grateful for what he did for us (agree with that part), but let's just remember that it was Ba on the phone who was pleading with Pardew to sign him-up for NUFC. The favour is mutual, imo.

 

 

 

 

 

He's going to a team that wins things, if it was QPR I would have been first in line to shoot him with shit but can you blame a player for wanting to play for a team who will challenge for stuff?

 

Oh, let's just bow down every time that a bigger clubs tries to pinch our players then. :lol:

 

Why does he have to to leave? You can't bring-up that excuse that you've just mentioned because Ba was linked with moves away for nearly a year now. Are you telling me that 6 months into his NUFC career he suddenly decided that he actually wants to move to bigger things? (Even though we were doing well in the league at the time)

 

Nope, it's nothing to do with that. There's a clause there and him, and his agents, know that this is a great opportunity to make big money for themselves.

 

I'd seriously question your judgement if you can't see that money the biggest issue here.

 

Obviously he will get more money but he is going to a club who will challenge for stuff, you're questioning my judgement because you can't understand why a player would leave to join a club who are likely to win things? ???

 

No. I'm questioning your judgement because you seem to be naive to the extreme in not believing that money is a major motivating factor for Ba to leave. And when I say "leave", the size of the club he's leaving for is not the issue here. We all know that talks of Ba leaving started surfacing nearly a year ago now and therefore I don't accept that Ba, 6 months into his first NUFC season, suddenly decided that he wanted to better himself. Especially after we know that he was desperate to come here in the first place.

 

Anyway, I'm wondering why Shay Given is still receiving abuse and insults on here? (Don't agree with it, btw) He left us in similar circumstances to this one and signed for an equally ambitious club.

 

 

Given refused to play for us and forced his move, Ba played yesterday scoring 2 goals.

 

Quite a big difference iyam.

 

Refused to play?? According to who? :lol: What's your reasons for actually believing this, then? :lol:  Okay, if we can't provide facts, let's, at the least, simply use rationale and reason here-

 

Shay Given, during the press conference upon signing for City, revealed that the club (Obviously he means the NUFC hierarchy here) "made him do things that he didn't want to do". If I remember correctly, Given was declared "injured" by the club and missed a game just before he he signed for City.

 

Now, for whatever reason, you seem to believe that he refused to play, but it could be that the NUFC board simply lied about his availability status (perhaps to avoid any potential injuries ahead of the transfer.) Maybe this is what Given meant when he said NUFC ""made him do things that he didn't want to do". i,e by missing the game even though he was available? I don't know.... but I'm not holding either scenarios as facts...... I just know which party I'd rather believe. But it's up to you, fella. :memelol:

 

( Incidentally, Given made his City debut 7 days after signing for them. )

 

 

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Wilson

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With the Sturridge and Ba deals, it's great to see the Newcastle-Liverpool-Chelsea transfer triangle back in action.

 

and again it's who ends up a striker down

worked out for us last time

 

certainly did in the end

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With the Sturridge and Ba deals, it's great to see the Newcastle-Liverpool-Chelsea transfer triangle back in action.

 

Chelsea getting a bargain at -£4.5m

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With the Sturridge and Ba deals, it's great to see the Newcastle-Liverpool-Chelsea transfer triangle back in action.

 

and again it's who ends up a striker down

worked out for us last time

 

Aye, Chelsea ended up with a Champions League and Liverpool won the League Cup.

 

 

 

I know what you mean, just being pedantic :pow:

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NUFC got Ba for free (excluding signing on fees and agent fees). It sounds like NUFC will get £5m from the activated £7.5m release clause (a clause Ba's people insisted on before he would sign for us). You can't blame Ba for wanting to go to Chelsea for more money and more success. All players are mercenaries these days. I stopped believing in players having loyalty to NUFC when Carroll left. We get French players because Premiership clubs can usually play higher wages than most Ligue 1 clubs can.

 

Fingers crossed Carr has scouted players up to the job of replacing Ba. Hopefully the wheels are already well in motion at the board room level. Unfortunately most of the players we have bought from abroad have needed quite a while to get up to speed with the Premiership. We need the Ba replacement to hit the ground running.

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Good riddance anyway... he was a moody fucker who celebrated his goals alone, hogged the ball, forced Cisse wide and prevented HIM from scoring the goals and of course he's a greedy bastard too. Oh and his all-round play isn't all that anyway.

 

:rolleyes:

 

 

Never mind eh, he's only the best centre-forward we've had since Shearer and the only player since capable of 20 a season.

 

Whatever the ins and outs of his contract, the clause, his demands etc. what his departure reveals is what we already know under these cunts, we will never be able to keep hold of our better players or compete with even mid ranking clubs in terms of wages and transfers and thus we will forever be a nothing club going nowhere. Big gates, the odd decent season but overall mid-table nothingness.

 

Only this time, with the heart and soul of the club traded for plastic signage, stadium renaming farces and fans' loyalty taking for granted.

 

Good luck to Demba, he arrived here on a free, scored goals and worked his socks off. Without his goals this season we would be up shit creek and unless we replace him or Cisse takes over the scoring from him, we could be looking at another relegation.

 

But hey... at least we haven't sold ALL of our purple players, so thanks Mike.

 

Fuck off!

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Good riddance anyway... he was a moody f***er who celebrated his goals alone, hogged the ball, forced Cisse wide and prevented HIM from scoring the goals and of course he's a greedy b****** too. Oh and his all-round play isn't all that anyway.

 

:rolleyes:

 

 

Never mind eh, he's only the best centre-forward we've had since Shearer and the only player since capable of 20 a season.

 

Whatever the ins and outs of his contract, the clause, his demands etc. what his departure reveals is what we already know under these c***s, we will never be able to keep hold of our better players or compete with even mid ranking clubs in terms of wages and transfers and thus we will forever be a nothing club going nowhere. Big gates, the odd decent season but overall mid-table nothingness.

 

Only this time, with the heart and soul of the club traded for plastic signage, stadium renaming farces and fans' loyalty taking for granted.

 

Good luck to Demba, he arrived here on a free, scored goals and worked his socks off. Without his goals this season we would be up s*** creek and unless we replace him or Cisse takes over the scoring from him, we could be looking at another relegation.

 

But hey... at least we haven't sold ALL of our purple players, so thanks Mike.

 

f*** off!

 

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Ba going to Chelsea confirms we can't compete with mid ranking clubs, fantastic logic as usual..

 

Well, that part was a bit strange in the context of a Demba Ba to Chelsea thread, but not factually incorrect when you consider our transfer spending and wage ceiling compared to Premiership mid ranking clubs.

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Good riddance anyway... he was a moody fucker who celebrated his goals alone, hogged the ball, forced Cisse wide and prevented HIM from scoring the goals and of course he's a greedy bastard too. Oh and his all-round play isn't all that anyway.

 

:rolleyes:

 

 

Never mind eh, he's only the best centre-forward we've had since Shearer and the only player since capable of 20 a season.

 

Whatever the ins and outs of his contract, the clause, his demands etc. what his departure reveals is what we already know under these cunts, we will never be able to keep hold of our better players or compete with even mid ranking clubs in terms of wages and transfers and thus we will forever be a nothing club going nowhere. Big gates, the odd decent season but overall mid-table nothingness.

 

Only this time, with the heart and soul of the club traded for plastic signage, stadium renaming farces and fans' loyalty taking for granted.

 

Good luck to Demba, he arrived here on a free, scored goals and worked his socks off. Without his goals this season we would be up shit creek and unless we replace him or Cisse takes over the scoring from him, we could be looking at another relegation.

 

But hey... at least we haven't sold ALL of our purple players, so thanks Mike.

 

Fuck off!

 

I get the gist of it, but he was never wanting to stay here long term. He engineered a move out of Hoffenheim, came to us with that ludicrous clause (cause he held all the cards and wanted a buying club not to be held to ransom) and now will be getting is one last big pay off. Nobody can begrude a player a chance to secure income for later life but to make out he we could have kept him is false imo.

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Good riddance anyway... he was a moody fucker who celebrated his goals alone, hogged the ball, forced Cisse wide and prevented HIM from scoring the goals and of course he's a greedy bastard too. Oh and his all-round play isn't all that anyway.

 

:rolleyes:

 

 

Never mind eh, he's only the best centre-forward we've had since Shearer and the only player since capable of 20 a season.

 

Whatever the ins and outs of his contract, the clause, his demands etc. what his departure reveals is what we already know under these cunts, we will never be able to keep hold of our better players or compete with even mid ranking clubs in terms of wages and transfers and thus we will forever be a nothing club going nowhere. Big gates, the odd decent season but overall mid-table nothingness.

 

Only this time, with the heart and soul of the club traded for plastic signage, stadium renaming farces and fans' loyalty taking for granted.

 

Good luck to Demba, he arrived here on a free, scored goals and worked his socks off. Without his goals this season we would be up shit creek and unless we replace him or Cisse takes over the scoring from him, we could be looking at another relegation.

 

But hey... at least we haven't sold ALL of our purple players, so thanks Mike.

 

Fuck off!

 

I get the gist of it, but he was never wanting to stay here long term. He engineered a move out of Hoffenheim, came to us with that ludicrous clause (cause he held all the cards and wanted a buying club not to be held to ransom) and now will be getting is one last big pay off. Nobody can begrude a player a chance to secure income for later life but to make out he we could have kept him is false imo.

 

We did well to get him in the first place if we're honest about it. Plenty of other clubs like Spurs and Everton missed the boat.

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