ujpest doza Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 He hasn't really been given a chance yet, and I think it was unfair on him, and a poor tactical choice by Pards to start him away to a strong team like Everton at goodison. He'll be a fine player for us in the EL, and against teams like Wigan og Swansea Pre match loads on here were raving saying get in etc saying what a good bold move it was. I'm not going to write him off yet but i still haven't seen anything from him that suggests he's ever going to make it here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 He was non-effective to say the least, but with our style of play in the first half its no wonder. He just had one of those nights where he just couldn't get into the game, we've all had them. I hope he starts against Norwich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I like him but haven't got a clue what his position is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 One poor half doesn't define a player. You're right, but you'd never be able to tell the way the messageboards melt down about players after a bad 45 minutes where the whole team played like shit. Almost as laughable as people seeing him as the saviour after 20 good minutes in a friendly or a carling cup game against some nobodies. Looked so far off the pace tonight it was untrue. I'd still play him on Thurs though, needs the minutes and seems to be suited more to a less pressured / slower game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 He should probably look at David Silva to see how to be effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'm a fan but he was poor tonight. It took so long for Pardew to start him in the league and I fear tonight might've set him back further Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 He should probably look at David Silva to see how to be effective. Strange comment that, think you need to expand on it to avoid seeming mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'm a fan but he was poor tonight. It took so long for Pardew to start him in the league and I fear tonight might've set him back further This really. surprised we didn't play him on the left rather than shifting him and Ben Arfa to positions we haven't seen them in for a while. Still have alot of faith in him, he looked class in most appearances but got lost today. He needs to a get used to the premier league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 He should probably look at David Silva to see how to be effective. Strange comment that, think you need to expand on it to avoid seeming mental. My usual casual scanning over posts lingered a lot longer than it should on that initial comment, thanks for pointing out the reason which is that it makes absolutely no sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 He should probably look at David Silva to see how to be effective. Strange comment that, think you need to expand on it to avoid seeming mental. There isn't a lot in common between the two of them, but Silva doesn't really have a fixed position, doesn't have a great deal of pace, is more technical than anything and is an effective attacking player. I think there's enough there for Marveaux to use him as someone to aspire to. I am in no way comparing their abilities, only their styles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Totally agree with you and it is something that I have mentioned on here in the past as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Get him straight back in the saddle and start him Thursday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Has to start LW on Thursday and put in a worthy performance. If he was on the pitch to help out against Pienaar and Baines, his effort last night was awful. Left Perch on his own all the time. Ben Arfa did more back tracking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Just needs more games. Been out a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 wouldnt be too worried about his performance yesterday. first start in ages, baines, wrong tactics, everybody was poor. give him a new start against maritimo. What is his best/preferred position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I don't think he's suited to the right. Some players like Ben Arfa seem to be at their best cutting in and dribbling but there were a few times Marveaux just ran into trouble cutting in. Didn't he always play on the left for Rennes? Think it should be there or nowhere for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Again, a bit of a flair player (not to say a luxury player exactly) put on largely defensive duty and subsequently chastised - still not had a run of games (much less a run of games in the Premiership!) to adapt to the pace of English football. You couldn't pick a side with more bustle than Everton really. Looking forward to see how he comes along. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I don't think he's suited to the right. Some players like Ben Arfa seem to be at their best cutting in and dribbling but there were a few times Marveaux just ran into trouble cutting in. Didn't he always play on the left for Rennes? Think it should be there or nowhere for him. Aye, really didn't understand him being on the right tbh, needed HBA there for his tracking back, marveaux did try but he was left in no mans land more often than not. He's a good player and felt a bit sorry for him getting stuck in a new position on his first start in a while, HBA and Marv needed to switch and I feel like we would have seen more from the 2 of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 He was garbage last night, a complete passenger. It might pipe down the "drop Ba for him brigade for a bit though, which is always good news. Lessons learned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 High intensity did for him last night. Will be better in Europe imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 surely the only lesson learnt is don't play him on the right, especially to try to contain one of the best attacking full backs in the league, it's not what he should be used for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'd be interested to see him off Ba in the event Cisse was injured/rested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I felt sorry for him last night.Since when has being a defensive midfielder,I dont think It helped that Perch was playing behind him either.Its unfair to say that Ba played alot better which was obviously true but Ba wasnt asked to mark the full back.I think It was more down to Pardew getting the tactics wrong in the first half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Might sound a bit old fashioned but I would like to see him perform as an old fashioned winger, getting to the byline and getting decent crosses in for Ba and Cisse who are both good headers of the ball. I actually thought that was the type of player he was like when we signed him (from youtube anyway), a Keith Gillespie sort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I like marveux but jesus he needs to smile a bit more, it's as if roy keane is constantly shagging his dog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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